Re: Gore Wins Nobel Peace Prize
 

[QUOTE=BleedBurgundy;362924]I'm saying that if he brings up a topic and starts enough discussion to the point that you ask yourself that question, it's a positive. As positive as if he were "walking the walk?" No. But I'm not certain that what's been said regarding his personal habits is entirely true. There's alot of misinformation out there on both sides.[/QUOTE]

But he doesn't want discussion. Or not really a discussion in the traditional sense. He and the rest of the global warming doomsayers want nothing to do with a rational discussion. They have either already made up their minds and commited extensive resources and/or personal credibility or they are part of a growing sect of science that has picked the side which guarnatees them the most money/success regardless of truth or science. There is a counter group too by the way funded by big oil types. Neither of these groups wants a true discussion of the science here. They want to force one point of view down everyone's throat when neither point of view has much in real hard science to support it unconditionally.

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[QUOTE=BleedBurgundy;363120]Is anyone else sick of hearing about terrorism? I mean, let's be honest. I know we were attacked 6 years ago and it was a horrible event. (I was in the Navy before and during the attack, I chose to serve my country before any Sept 11 upswell in patriotism, so don't question my loyalty here) But that attack was probably the most beneficial thing that could have happened to all of the Neo-Conservative Defense Contractors and the people (i.e. politicians) they employ. How many shady policy decisions have been made under the guise of defending freedom and stopping terrorism? I don't want to hear that word in the next election. We have the strongest, most highly trained, most well equipped military in the world and it's not going to shit no matter who's in power, no matter what FOX News tells you. We've spent 6 years focused on nothing but national defense. Let's take care of some other pressing needs. Examples would be Healthcare, Social Security Reform, Drug Policy, Education Reform, etc...[/QUOTE]
oh my... :doh:

Re: Gore Wins Nobel Peace Prize
 

he won a peace prize then the world is truely coming to an end. the mans an idiot, anyone who watches him debate can see thishe is no more then a spokes person. South park tells it how it is, Go save the world from manbearpig im super serial mr. gore.

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[QUOTE=Hog1;362845][b]It has no real meaning since "Master Terrorist" Yasser Arafat recieved the award.[/b]

At a ceremony in Oslo, Norway on December 10, 1994 Yasser Arafat, master terrorist, was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. The prize was awarded jointly to Arafat, Israel's Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin and Foreign Minister Shimon Peres "for their efforts to create peace in the Middle East." The three were granted the prestigious prize, prematurely as it turned out, for their roles in the historic Oslo Accords signed the previous year and their committment to the Peace Process envisioned by the Accords. After generations of warfare and terrorism, it seemed peace was at hand.

There has been much negative press suggesting Gore's lifestyle does not support his.......Green acclaims. Gigantic inefficient house's, private jets, HUGE carbon footprints trampling all he claims to be protecting, etc.

BTW, if you are considering Gore as your guy, the National Repulican commitee has asked me to notify you, that your Republican license to practice in this hemishere has been revoked.....forever.
Congrats, you are now a Dem[/QUOTE]

I do not care who wins the nobel peace prize, mainly because of Arafat winning it years ago...but it seems to be more a joke than anything.

I have read about that lifestyle that Gore leads as well, and considering the massive amount of "truth stretching" he did in his first campaign (or flat out dumb comments like "I invented the internet") it leads me to believe that he is full of shit. He craves attention. (just look at the manbearpig fiasco...lol, jk) He'd be an absolutely horrible choice, and there are plenty of Dems I'd vote for over him...then again, if I EVER vote for a dem, just shoot me on the spot! :D

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[QUOTE=Redskin;363225]he won a peace prize then the world is truely coming to an end. the mans an idiot, anyone who watches him debate can see thishe is no more then a spokes person. [b]South park tells it how it is, Go save the world from manbearpig im super serial mr. gore.[/b][/QUOTE]

That's funny...I didn't see your post, but obviously we are on the same wave length cause I just made a comment about manbearpig too. LOL.

I wouldn't take the "award" seriously. There have been several questionable winners. Gore is just the latest. And while I agree with his climate issues, why would you get a "peace" prize for it. It has nothing to do with peace, it has to do with our environment.

Arafat is probably the worst award winner ever, but there are other "not so good" picks too.

ElBaradei won a few years back for his efforts to prevent nuclear ability in the military (like he did anything significant), and yet he's a nuclear energy advocate. So it's OK to have it, just not use it for military reasons. OK...that's like saying, hey, here's a condom and a willing beautiful woman, but you can't have sex with her.

Back about 20 years ago, some group called Physicians for the prevention of nuclear war won...no one really knows why either, other than, it's a cool "peaceful sounding" name.

El Sadat in the late 70's.

Sakharov in 75, he was a russian nuclear physicist for pete's sake. He gave Russia a lot of information that could have killed hundreds of thousands, and he wins a peace prize?

Don't remember any that won before that other than Kissinger won, and MLK won one.

There are some that did deserve it, but the idiots that won kind of make the "award" a joke.

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I love how people are worried about their taxes. Take a look at the debt bill from the millions we're spending in Iraq per week. Yeah, you're not getting taxed for it, we're borrowing it, and China is buying up our debt left and right. Expect China to have major pull over the decisions in the US. I read a while back that if China were to call in all their debt right now we would be completely screwed. Granted, no country would ever do that, but still.

What's worse, paying more taxes or having another country own our interests?

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[QUOTE=Daseal;363242]
What's worse, paying more taxes or having [B]another country own our interests?[/B][/QUOTE]

It feels as if this is already happening.

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[URL="http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/articles/lundestad-review/index.html"]What the peace prize is for[/URL]:

[QUOTE]When Alfred Nobel died on December 10, 1896, it was discovered that he had left a will, dated November 27, 1895, according to which most of his vast wealth was to be used for five prizes, including one for peace. The prize for peace was to be awarded to the person who "[B]shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding of peace congresses.[/B]" The prize was to be awarded "by a committee of five persons to be elected by the Norwegian Storting."[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=firstdown;363038]He was VP for 8 years and what changes beside inventing the internet? What would Gore do if he was in office?[/QUOTE]

Inventing the internet? LOL!!!!! :D

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what kind of changes has any V.P. made? its a lame position, only good in title only

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[QUOTE=saden1;363259][URL="http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/articles/lundestad-review/index.html"]What the peace prize is for[/URL]:[/QUOTE]

So why is it Gore won again? It doesn't seem to fall under that definition.

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[quote=saden1;362895]Because Arafat won it it's worthless? What about the worthy people who have won it? You're completely dissing their accomplishments as worthy of a worthless prize.

As for Arafat may I remind you he won the prize WITH Yitzhak Rabin FOR trying to bring an end the middle east conflict. A desired and admirable goal.[/quote]
Arafats' deeds were alot louder than his words. Some people talk about doing, while others actually do. Arafat was one who would say to the world "I want peace with the Jews" and while addresses his own people say, "death to the Jews". What a peice of human feces he was. A good terriorist is a dead one.

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[quote=BigSKINBauer;362958]i dislike all the candidates for presidency, republican and democratic, right now. Gore would get my vote if he were to run. He has a responsibility to run. I get upset with the fact that he preaches change but when he has the power to step into a position where he can make a difference, he passes.[/quote]
Then how can you support that?

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;363019]I've LIVED all over the world, under different forms of government and there is a lot to be said for the way other countries do things. We don't have a monopoly on good ideas in the U.S.[/quote]
Oh really, well that maybe true, but why do so many people want to come here for a better life? No other country in the world can claim that. And I too have lived in other countries around this world, and this is the best place to be bare none.

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[quote=4mrusmc;363388]Arafats' deeds were alot louder than his words. Some people talk about doing, while others actually do. Arafat was one who would say to the world "I want peace with the Jews" and while addresses his own people say, "death to the Jews". What a peice of human feces he was.[/quote] I'm not defending Arafat but despite all the rhetoric you hear he did take a crack at peace. In any case, I don't understand why Arafat gets all blamed for the failure of peace. There were two parties there and no one wanted to compromise. [quote=4mrusmc;363388]A good terriorist is a dead one.[/quote] Nice, they feel the same about Americans. As the president has said "bring them on."

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[quote=jsarno;363319]So why is it Gore won again? It doesn't seem to fall under that definition.[/quote]

I'm not entirely sure if the original intent of the prize covered environmentalists but I don't see why it shouldn't. Gore won it along with the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change for peace between mankind and the planet/environment. [quote]"their efforts to build up and disseminate greater knowledge about man-made climate change, and to lay the foundations for the measures that are needed to counteract such change"[/quote]

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;362837]I'm sure everyone's heard by now. I think this is pretty impressive. My question is, if he did decide to run do you think that he would be able to win over enough republicans to win an election? I am a registered republican (put down the eggs, dmek) but I think I would have to seriously consider voting for him pending some research.

*let's keep this civil. no need for namecalling or hyperbole. There's plenty of that on TV.[/quote]How could any "republican" vote for gore, the guy is a kook.

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[quote=pdid5000;364342]How could any "republican" vote for gore, [B]the guy is a kook[/B].[/quote]
it probably took alot of thought before you posted this. care to add any insight?

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[QUOTE=pdid5000;364342]How could any "republican" vote for gore, the guy is a kook.[/QUOTE]

Most democrats aren't that stupid either. Go ahead Gore, run for President, hurt your own party with such a dumb move. I'm all for it.

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[QUOTE=saden1;364286]I'm not entirely sure if the original intent of the prize covered environmentalists but I don't see why it shouldn't. Gore won it along with the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change for peace between mankind and the planet/environment.[/QUOTE]

Well, I would agree with you. But why get a peace prize now, if it wasn't the intent of the prize? That's like an Kevin Garnett winning the NFL MVP. Sure he plays great for the NBA, but the NFL MVP is supposed to be given to an NFL player.

I personally can't stand the guy, but I do respect his work in regards to the environment, regardless of how self serving it is.

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the guy that preaches the "save the earth" and "save energy", yet his electricity bill was $20,000 won?

wow never thought i'd see the day.

Man-bear-pig won the peace prize. (southpark)

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I wouldn't have chosen Gore for the prize. If you don't practice what you preach you shouldn't even be in the running. I really hate the notion of "offsetting your carbon footprint" and he used that to explain why his monstrous house has $30,000 utility bill. It's like willfully making a mistake and professing your desire to correct the mistake at the same time. Don't make the mistake in the f'ing first place!