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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;292301]I heard that if Snyder goes after the salad in round 1, Vinny will toss it for him.[/quote]

Ewwwwwwwwww NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT. But still ewwwwwwwww

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[quote=FRPLG;292289]I officially think the Skins FO is having a good ole time this off season making everyone poop their pants. We have in the span of several weeks.

-Turned down an offer to trade our 6 for like the broncos entire draft board and Al Wilson
-"Almost" consumated a similar deal with Bly instead.
-Have worked feverishly to trade down and get more picks
-Worked to trade up to get CJ
-Redecided to trade down and get Briggs and Chi's 1st
-Redecided to trade up and get CJ.

Without a doubt no one has any clue what the hell we are doing and at this point it has to be by design.[/quote]

And don't forget about sending Betts or Portis to the Jets for Vilma, I think that was the rumor that kicked everything off.

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gmanc, good post. no matter who says what, there is no such thing as a sure thing. and this is the first time i can ever remember the redskins playing the draft game the right way. letting all the other teams think that they want everyone. does anyone, other then the skins front office, have a clue to who they really want?

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[quote=Gmanc711;292302]1990 Jeff George, qb Illinois Indianapolis 13 0
1991 Russell Maryland, dt Miami, (Fla.) Dallas 10 1
1992 Steve Emtman, dt Washington Indianapolis 8 0
1993 Drew Bledsoe, qb Washington State New England 14 4
1994 Dan Wilkinson, dt Ohio State Cincinnati 13 0
1995 Ki-Jana Carter, rb Penn State Cincinnati 8 0
1996 Keyshawn Johnson, wr Southern Cal. N.Y. Jets 11 4
[B]1997 Orlando Pace, ot Ohio State St. Louis Rams 10 7 [/B]
[B]1998 Peyton Manning, qb Tennessee Indianapolis 9 7 [/B]
1999 Tim Couch, qb Kentucky Cleveland 6 0
2000 Courtney Brown, de Penn State Cleveland 7 0
[B]2001 Michael Vick, qb Virginia Tech Atlanta 6 3 [/B]
2002 David Carr, qb Fresno State Houston 5 0
[B]2003 Carson Palmer, qb Southern Cal. Cincinnati 4 2 [/B]
2004 Eli Manning, qb Mississippi San Diego 3 0
2005 Alex Smith, qb Utah San Francisco 2 0
2006 Mario Williams, de N. Carolina State Houston 1 0


Those are all the other "Can't miss" guys in the draft. Do you want any of them. Other than the ones I highlighted, none of these guys made the impact that people think the #1 pick should. So why should we spend the #1 pick and trade up to get that pick for the "cant miss" guy instead of filling needs!?!?

Obviously the jury is still out on a few people. But Mike Williams of Detroit was a "Cant Miss" guy a couple years ago, and he was inactive most of the season.

*I bolded the guys who have "Panned out" for the most part, and even a couple of those are a stretch[/quote]

Post of the year candidate right here.

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Apparently a deal was reported on the John Thompson show that the deal for Briggs is done. :doh:

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;292314]Apparently a deal was reported on the John Thompson show that the deal for Briggs is done. :doh:[/QUOTE]

I heard that the deal wasn't done, and that the report was based on the Chicago Sun-Times article I posted. The article basically said that Briggs and the Skins had agreed upon contract terms, but the Redskins and Bears had not agreed upon trade terms. Maybe I'm wrong.

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[quote=Gmanc711;292302]1990 Jeff George, qb Illinois Indianapolis 13 0
1991 Russell Maryland, dt Miami, (Fla.) Dallas 10 1
1992 Steve Emtman, dt Washington Indianapolis 8 0
1993 Drew Bledsoe, qb Washington State New England 14 4
1994 Dan Wilkinson, dt Ohio State Cincinnati 13 0
1995 Ki-Jana Carter, rb Penn State Cincinnati 8 0
1996 Keyshawn Johnson, wr Southern Cal. N.Y. Jets 11 4
[B]1997 Orlando Pace, ot Ohio State St. Louis Rams 10 7 [/B]
[B]1998 Peyton Manning, qb Tennessee Indianapolis 9 7 [/B]
1999 Tim Couch, qb Kentucky Cleveland 6 0
2000 Courtney Brown, de Penn State Cleveland 7 0
[B]2001 Michael Vick, qb Virginia Tech Atlanta 6 3 [/B]
2002 David Carr, qb Fresno State Houston 5 0
[B]2003 Carson Palmer, qb Southern Cal. Cincinnati 4 2 [/B]
2004 Eli Manning, qb Mississippi San Diego 3 0
2005 Alex Smith, qb Utah San Francisco 2 0
2006 Mario Williams, de N. Carolina State Houston 1 0


Those are all the other "Can't miss" guys in the draft. Do you want any of them. Other than the ones I highlighted, none of these guys made the impact that people think the #1 pick should. So why should we spend the #1 pick and trade up to get that pick for the "cant miss" guy instead of filling needs!?!?

Obviously the jury is still out on a few people. But Mike Williams of Detroit was a "Cant Miss" guy a couple years ago, and he was inactive most of the season.

*I bolded the guys who have "Panned out" for the most part, and even a couple of those are a stretch[/quote]


GMANC - wasn't Charles Rogers a "can't miss game changing WR" as well? Plus it pains me to remember this but anyone remember trading away multiple picks to get good old Desmond Howard - he was going to make the Skins unstoppable from what I remember.

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[quote=SmootSmack;292297]Here's the problem I have with this. We just spend big bucks and picks last year to get Randle-El and Lloyd; two relatively young receivers who have shown they can play in this league. Furthermore, we have Moss and Cooley (who I'll count as a WR for these purposes).

Granted, neither Lloyd nor El put up stellar numbers but a.) we were dealing with a new offense that everyone admits takes a year to learn and b.) Jason Campbell was for all intents and purposes a rookie when he played in the back half of the season.

CJ is great, no question about that. But why do we want to just give up on our current receivers-especially two guys we just spent big on just last year-after only one season in a new offense with a young quarterback. Why not let them grow together?

If you want to tear that unit up then fine, but it's hard to listen then when you turn right around and talk about how we have no patience as a front office, and we need to develop our players and so forth. (and when I say "you" I'm addressing the universal "you")[/quote]

While I'm personally against the trade (even though I hear "Calvin Johnson breaks the TD record and the redskins win the superbowl!" uncontrollably in my head) I think we should probably show the door to Brandon Lloyd.

I think here is a case where we took a chance on a guy. We said, hey, this guy put up some decent numbers with a fairly mediocre QB throwing to him, seems not to be fitting in there, but we've got a lot of characters on our team. I mean look at portis, he's frickin insane. So yeah... maybe we'll be able to get more of those crazy diving catches on a regular basis.

Problem is A) We were wrong about his attitude. This isn't some unique personality, he's just a big whiny baby. He acts like his shit doesn't stink, while everyone can smell him for miles.

and B) He really isn't that good. Now I'm basing this off of my "gut" feeling, but I tend to think pound for pound ARE made a bigger impact on this team. Using statistics to defend your argument either way won't work, because of the situation of our offense, but I really think he's useless.

I've heard the "Let the WR's gel together" argument, but I don't want the chance of our offense "gelling" and mid-season we have a mental breakdown, while throwing off the chemistry and rhythm of the season. I think we should axe Lloyd(who knows maybe try to get a 6 rnd pick for him), and either pick up a vet receiver or give Mike Espy a shot.

I've gone from not sold on Lloyd, to irritated, to sold on throwing him over board. I am fickle, I know.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;292316]I heard that the deal wasn't done, and that the report was based on the Chicago Sun-Times article I posted. The article basically said that Briggs and the Skins had agreed upon contract terms, but the Redskins and Bears had not agreed upon trade terms. Maybe I'm wrong.[/quote]

That's how I understand it to be too.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;292316]I heard that the deal wasn't done, and that the report was based on the Chicago Sun-Times article I posted. The article basically said that Briggs and the Skins had agreed upon contract terms, but the Redskins and Bears had not agreed upon trade terms. Maybe I'm wrong.[/quote]

Honestly, I'm rooting for the Bears on this one. Of course, I'll try and see the silver lining if this does go through, but it'll be tough.

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Everybody is hot for some action. This is so un-Redskin like to have made so few moves in the spring. Until we signed Fabini a couple days ago, we had made only two out of town moves, Fletcher/Smoot. Therefore, since there's no moves to write or talk about, those yearning have been reduced to the pillow.

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Uh Oh. Like, offer completed, and tendered? Or offer, completed, tendered, and accepted?

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[quote=SmootSmack;292297]Here's the problem I have with this. We just spend big bucks and picks last year to get Randle-El and Lloyd; two relatively young receivers who have shown they can play in this league. Furthermore, we have Moss and Cooley (who I'll count as a WR for these purposes).

Granted, neither Lloyd nor El put up stellar numbers but a.) we were dealing with a new offense that everyone admits takes a year to learn and b.) Jason Campbell was for all intents and purposes a rookie when he played in the back half of the season.

CJ is great, no question about that. But why do we want to just give up on our current receivers-especially two guys we just spent big on just last year-after only one season in a new offense with a young quarterback. Why not let them grow together?

If you want to tear that unit up then fine, but it's hard to listen then when you turn right around and talk about how we have no patience as a front office, and we need to develop our players and so forth. (and when I say "you" I'm addressing the universal "you")[/quote]

We are talking about possibly getting a truely great player. If we were talking about Dwaye Jarrett or the guy from Tenn. then it would be different. I would say keep who we have. It's not worth it. But if you have the chance to get Jerry Rice then you make the move.

It's moot point. It looks like we are going to make the deal to Chi. Sports Talk 980 is reporting that we have made a contract offer to Briggs. 20 million in guar. money.

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[quote=skinsfan69;292327]We are talking about possibly getting a truely great player. If we were talking about Dwaye Jarrett or the guy from Tenn. then it would be different. I would say keep who we have. It's not worth it. But if you have the chance to get Jerry Rice then you make the move.

It's moot point. It looks like we are going to make the deal to Chi. Sports Talk 980 is reporting that we have made a contract offer to Briggs. 20 million in guar. money.[/quote]
Contract offer really doesn't mean much if CHI isn't willing to make the trade, which I believe is the case.

Briggs would be a great addition, but I think we need a CB first. Well shit, I want my cake and eat it too, let's get both.

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[QUOTE=Hog1;292325]Uh Oh. Like, offer completed, and tendered? Or offer, completed, tendered, and accepted?[/QUOTE]

Again, I think the offer to Briggs may be tendered and accepted. The offer to the Bears appears tendered, but under consideration and not yet accepted.

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[quote=skinsfan69;292327]We are talking about possibly getting a truely great player. If we were talking about Dwaye Jarrett or the guy from Tenn. then it would be different. I would say keep who we have. It's not worth it. But if you have the chance to get Jerry Rice then you make the move.

It's moot point. It looks like we are going to make the deal to Chi. Sports Talk 980 is reporting that we have made a contract offer to Briggs. 20 million in guar. money.[/quote]

$20 million in guranteed money! I thought that type of money is for shutdown CB's like Champ Bailey - not OLB. Plus what effect would that have on our cap - especially when we need to resign Cooley - Schneed any thoughts on the cap implications of signing Briggs would be like and its effects on the Skins ability to resign Cooley next year?

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;292322]Honestly, I'm rooting for the Bears on this one. Of course, I'll try and see the silver lining if this does go through, but it'll be tough.[/quote]

Here's the silver lining, the Skins trade out of a pick where they in all likelihood weren't thrilled with the idea of who would be available at #6.

In addition they pick up a proven commodity in Briggs, who is a 26 year old stud OLB in this league. All of a sudden our LB corps. that was a serious weakness last year becomes a serious strength.

And the cherry on top is we still have a 1st round pick to play with. I wouldn't rule out a possible trade back up.

This is of course all dependent on whether or not the Bears want to play ball and accept this trade. I've heard that they aren't interested in moving to #6 and having to pay the kind of $$ involved with that high of a pick. So we'll see.

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[quote=Bill B;292331]$20 million in guranteed money! I thought that type of money is for shutdown CB's like Champ Bailey - not OLB. Plus what effect would that have on our cap - especially when we need to resign Cooley - Schneed any thoughts on the cap implications of signing Briggs would be like and its effects on the Skins ability to resign Cooley next year?[/quote]

Adalius Thomas received $20M guaranteed from the Patriots, so I don't think $20M for Briggs is too out of line.

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I really hope this deal doesn't go through ESPECIALLY if his contract is anything like Dockery's. I agree that it would've been too much money to give Dock but seriously, why couldn't he get that money if we were going to become temporarily stupid this offseason.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;292314]Apparently a deal was reported on the John Thompson show that the deal for Briggs is done. :doh:[/quote]

I just threw up a little bit in my own mouth. The only consolation I have is that this year is the deepest for D-line talent that I can ever remember seeing. Hopefully a guy like a Tim Crowder, Adam Carriker, Anthony Spencer will be around at 31. Dammit. We are so dumb. We spend a 2nd round draft pick to move up to get Rocky last year, we already have Marcus, and we just gave Fletcher-Baker $25M. WTF?? Now apparently $20M guaranteed to Briggs? Did we really need to spend nearly $50M on linebackers in one month??

The only thing I can think of is that Marcus' hip surgery is more serious than anyone let on, and/or Rocky is not what they hoped...

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This organization is being flushed down the toilet.

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[quote=Mattyk72;292336]Adalius Thomas received $20M guaranteed from the Patriots, so I don't think $20M for Briggs is too out of line.[/quote]

I am of the camp that you pay the large bonuses to the superior DE's and shutdown corners, and than spend the remaining amounts on the LB's as far as defensive spending goes.

But lets say we give the large money to Briggs - what is the DL looking like as far as protecting the LB's - not too good in my opinion.
With the amount of money already spent on Washington and Fletcher wouldn't it be more prudent to spend the money up front on the DL? Or if you really want to give a $20 million bonus away why not focus on a shutdown CB to prepare for the eventual departure of Springs?

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[quote=Bill B;292344]I am of the camp that you pay the large bonuses to the superior DE's and shutdown corners, and than spend the remaining amounts on the LB's as far as defensive spending goes.

But lets say we give the large money to Briggs - what is the DL looking like as far as protecting the LB's - not too good in my opinion.
With the amount of money already spent on Washington and Fletcher wouldn't it be more prudent to spend the money up front on the DL? Or if you really want to give a $20 million bonus away why not focus on a shutdown CB to prepare for the eventual departure of Springs?[/quote]
I think all signs are pointing that we invest our #6 pick, albeit possibly thought a trade down, on the DL. We're going to invest probably more than one pick on it, and IMO it will be the theme of the Redskins in the draft. How nice would it be to trade down and get two first round DL choices.

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[quote=Bill B;292344]I am of the camp that you pay the large bonuses to the superior DE's and shutdown corners, and than spend the remaining amounts on the LB's as far as defensive spending goes.

But lets say we give the large money to Briggs - what is the DL looking like as far as protecting the LB's - not too good in my opinion.
With the amount of money already spent on Washington and Fletcher wouldn't it be more prudent to spend the money up front on the DL? Or if you really want to give a $20 million bonus away why not focus on a shutdown CB to prepare for the eventual departure of Springs?[/quote]

I'm not advocating the deal I'm just saying the market has been set for LBs and $20M guaranteed is not out of line for a player of Briggs' caliber. The guaranteed money for corners is now even higher thanks to Clements.

I'd like to see the DL addressed as well, but the offseason is far from over so I'm not going to get too crazy just yet.

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I wouldnt argue with us picking all D line in this draft. Our offense is gonna be pretty good this year as it is. We just need depth on defense and things will change quickly

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lets see what we'd have to give up to get johnson before we start freaking out

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I think it would be hard to make any true assessment of the trade until we find out what we end up with with the #31 pick

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How about we sign Ian Scott, and wait until the draft to rape some team of their picks. $20 mil guaranteed to Briggs is not a good look IMO. We didn't want to give Dock $18 up front (which I don't think he should've gotten from the Skins) but here Briggs will get $20 ? Makes no sense to me.

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Im actually loving all of this. Last year we get Lloyd, Randel el, Archuleta and Carter and everyone is raving oh my god the FO office is great and jumps on their d**k. Then the season comes, we blow, everyone jumps off, and the bitching and moaning begins. This year I hope they do the one thing that everyone hates the most which looks like getting Briggs or CJ. Then we kick a** this year, make the playoffs, and everybody climbs back on Mr.Winky.

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[quote=holmester;292380]Im actually loving all of this. Last year we get Lloyd, Randel el, Archuleta and Carter and everyone is raving oh my god the FO office is great and jumps on their d**k. Then the season comes, we blow, everyone jumps off, and the bitching and moaning begins. This year I hope they do the one thing that everyone hates the most which looks like getting Briggs or CJ. Then we kick a** this year, make the playoffs, and everybody climbs back on Mr.Winky.[/quote]

So you're enjoying the comedy as much as I am?

People are retarded, football, politics, whatever it may be... one of the great truths of life is just that. We're all retarded.

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Holmster I'm all for CJ, but Briggs ? No sir. If he was a free agent I'd understand but a guy who wants to leave his team mainly because he wants a big payday, don't want him. Especially if have to drop alot of bread for him.

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[QUOTE=MonkFan4Life;292383]Holmster I'm all for CJ, but Briggs ? No sir. If he was a free agent I'd understand but a guy who wants to leave his team mainly because he wants a big payday, don't want him.[QUOTE]

Like Clinton Portis?

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You got me but it's a different situation. Briggs isn't to linebackers what Portis was to running backs when he came in. I could see if Briggs was Urlacher, then I understand but he isn't. He doesn't fill a "need". As far as the Portis deal, Champ wanted to go and Denver wanted him. The Skins needed a running back at the time so Portis came along in the deal. Was Portis going to sit for the year ? Can't remember but wasn't he going to make less than $1 mil that year ? What's Briggs slated to make about $7.5 ?

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[quote=MonkFan4Life;292393]You got me but it's a different situation. Briggs isn't to linebackers what Portis was to running backs when he came in. I could see if Briggs was Urlacher, then I understand but he isn't. He doesn't fill a "need". As far as the Portis deal, Champ wanted to go and Denver wanted him. The Skins needed a running back at the time so Portis came along in the deal. Was Portis going to sit for the year ? Can't remember but wasn't he going to make less than $1 mil that year ? What's Briggs slated to make about $7.5 ?[/quote]
If your a linebacker in the NFL. You've gone to two pro-bowls... you really want to make your money soon. I mean your one freak injury away from losing your big day.

He's got his pay-day in his grasp, and Chicago franchised him and that really pisses him off. It would piss me off as well, and I don't think it directly reflects anything about his character. The NFL is a business, and business wise that's a smart choice. I have no problem with his decisions.

As far as filling the needs, I understand that. But the same kind of philosophical thinking that goes into the "draft the best player available", is it that much of a stretch when a pro-bowl young quality proven linebacker is on the market? Get him because he's there.

I tend to dis-agree with this thinking, but when the offer is on the table to loiter around inside your head... the idea sounds better and better.

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[quote=MonkFan4Life;292383]Holmster I'm all for CJ, but Briggs ? No sir. If he was a free agent I'd understand but a guy who wants to leave his team mainly because he wants a big payday, don't want him. Especially if have to drop alot of bread for him.[/quote]

Chicago's FO is known for being cheap and not willing to protect their players. He also asked not to be franchised and they did it anyways. It's not like with Dwight Freeney who gets franchised and the owner comes out and says he guarantees the long term deal will be done before the end of the season. Plus if the FO wants the 31st pick they must have their eye on someone who will be around late and not think that anyone going early is worth the pick. If we get briggs i think its one of 3 reasons...

1. Marcus's hip injury is more serious then anyone thought and he needs a replacement.
2. Rocky is retarded and cant get a grasp on GW's complicated defense.
or 3. (please be this) GW is looking to go to the 3-4. Now remember, last year when his cover 2 schemes were getting raped down the middle he said that the defense could go under major changes. So imagine this... we get briggs, draft tank tyler for nose guard, plenty of rotation on the DL and have lb's Rocky, Fletcher, Briggs, Washington, and Marshall to rotate. I dont know if you guy's have noticed but Rocky can flat out fly so picture him comin from outside to the QB all day. (Merriman who?)

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[quote=RobH4413;292396]If your a linebacker in the NFL. You've gone to two pro-bowls... you really want to make your money soon. I mean your one freak injury away from losing your big day.

He's got his pay-day in his grasp, and Chicago franchised him and that really pisses him off. It would piss me off as well, and I don't think it directly reflects anything about his character. The NFL is a business, and business wise that's a smart choice. I have no problem with his decisions.

As far as filling the needs, I understand that. But the same kind of philosophical thinking that goes into the "draft the best player available", is it that much of a stretch when a pro-bowl young quality proven linebacker is on the market? Get him because he's there.

I tend to dis-agree with this thinking, but when the offer is on the table to loiter around inside your head... the idea sounds better and better.[/quote]

Now as a player I understand why you go for your money now. I understood why T.O. did it when he did. I understand why they all do it but given the teams history you don't want to do too many things that may cause any type of resentment towards the organization from the players. I KNOW that I am being VERY hypocritical because I think they should take Calvin Johnson which could cause problems with your Wide Outs but until snyone whose name isn't Moss becomes 6'5 overnight and runs a 4.3 40 then Eff them. Bringing in Briggs who is an OLB to replace a guy that you just gave up picks for last year who replaced a guy that you signed to start last year doesn't make sense to me. I know that Briggs is a proven player, and I'd like to see him here but not for the kind of money that he'll command. I don't think the Skins should use the 6th pick unless it's Calvin Johnson because of the money they'd have to pay. I think Briggs should get all that he can but not at the Skins' expense. The Skins needed a corner as well but believe me I didn't think they should've given Nate Clements the world either.

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[quote=Big C;292363]lets see what we'd have to give up to get johnson before we start freaking out[/quote]

(Perform in movie preview guy voice)
An arm and a leg.

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[quote=JankySpanky80;292253]I think Gibbs is set on Calvin Johnson. It just seems when they are high on a player they do whatever it takes to get that person. It will be this years 1st, next years 1st, and 2nd, possibly a player. About a month to go and then we'll see what all this is truly about. I get the feeling also from reading some of the other post that Lance Briggs will not be a Redskin.[/quote]
OK, so beside that stupid clip how did you find out that Gibbs is so set on Calvin Johnson?

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What do we have that will entice any team to trade places with us to move up?

It's not like we have another first round pick, and a second, third, fourth -- which is what it would take for someone to give up on Johnson.

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[quote=MonkFan4Life;292393]You got me but it's a different situation. Briggs isn't to linebackers what Portis was to running backs when he came in. I could see if Briggs was Urlacher, then I understand but he isn't. He doesn't fill a "need". As far as the Portis deal, Champ wanted to go and Denver wanted him. The Skins needed a running back at the time so Portis came along in the deal. Was Portis going to sit for the year ? Can't remember but wasn't he going to make less than $1 mil that year ? What's Briggs slated to make about $7.5 ?[/quote]Didn't you hear? The No. 6 pick wants out of Washington!