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jamf 03-02-2007 08:13 PM

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WOW!!!
I dont think any player is worth that money. I wonder what it's going to take to sign ST :(

MTK 03-02-2007 08:17 PM

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[quote=TAFKAS;282995]NFL Network is now saying 8 years, $80 million, $22 million bonus[/quote]

These are baseball sized deals

Just insane

dall-assblows 03-02-2007 08:21 PM

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;282670]Thanks, I must have missed that line. Stupid [U]lexdysia[/U].[/quote]

you too?

i'm dyslexic also

JWsleep 03-02-2007 08:22 PM

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My goodness. It is expensive to get good players these days!

dall-assblows 03-02-2007 08:23 PM

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[quote=TAFKAS;282995]NFL Network is now saying 8 years, $80 million, $22 million bonus[/quote]

in th next 2-3 years there will be 10 years, $150 million, $44 mllion bonus

Rexi 03-02-2007 08:23 PM

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Holy shit. We signed Michael Lewis too.

Finally we have a hard hitting secondary again. Maybe Boldin and Fitzgerald won't rape us as bad this season.

budw38 03-02-2007 08:38 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;282555]LOL what a joke, they can have him for that price.

He's no Champ, not even close.

These contracts are going to be insane... buckle up.[/quote] There are NOT a dozen players in the NFL worth a 15 mill $$ signing bonus , they can have him . they may have a good D this year ,,, but that is crazy $$$

dall-assblows 03-02-2007 08:39 PM

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maybe the media will jump all over the 49ers now and say they signed too many egos and shit.

i really think the 49ers spendind is outlandish, but mayb some of that is just jealousy

Rexi 03-02-2007 08:47 PM

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I could care less if we overspent. We had like 37 million dollars and we have to play Larry Fitzgerald, Anquan Boldin, Torry Holt, Isaac Bruce, and Deion Branch twice every year. Let's get the best CB available.

dall-assblows 03-02-2007 09:00 PM

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look at what happened to the redskins

Rexi 03-02-2007 09:06 PM

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[quote=dall-assblows;283071]look at what happened to the redskins[/quote]Yeah but Nate Clements is actually elite. Some of the guys the Redskins over-paid for weren't even borderline elite, they were average or horrible.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-02-2007 09:48 PM

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[QUOTE=Rexi;283075]Yeah but Nate Clements is actually elite. Some of the guys the Redskins over-paid for weren't even borderline elite, they were average or horrible.[/QUOTE]

For example? Please don't bring up 2000, that was 7 friggin years ago.

Rexi 03-02-2007 10:08 PM

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;283101]For example? Please don't bring up 2000, that was 7 friggin years ago.[/quote]Archuleta, Lloyd (traded for in this case), Andre Carter (as a LBer anyway)

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-02-2007 10:13 PM

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[QUOTE=Rexi;283117]Archuleta, Lloyd (traded for in this case), Andre Carter (as a LBer anyway)[/QUOTE]

I'll give you Archie. But we paid less in terms of salary and signing bonuses for BOTH Carter and Lloyd than you did for Clements. Carter looked really impressive down the stretch and Lloyd is a big question mark.

And, I'm not talking about you Rexi, but I'm tried of hearing how the Redskins overaid this guy or that guy from some idiot on the TV who doesn't know squat. The Redskins developed a reputation for overpaying players after 2000, justifiably so. However, since 2000 our FA "spending sprees" have not been nearly as bad as people make them out to be. In fact, the only big signings I can I regret in the past few years are for (1) Jeremiah Trotter and (2) Adam Archuleta. Yet these morons in the press keep saying how we overpaid for this player of that player. Some examples:

(1) We were told that we overpaid for Laveraneus Coles ($13M SB) when NO ONE criticized the Falcons for giving basically the same deal to Peerless Price. Coles went to the Pro Bowl and eventually was traded for Santana Moss. Where is Peerless now?

(2) We were told that we overpaid for Randy Thomas ($7M SB). The deal doesn't look so bad when you consider what guards, just a few years later, are getting paid and that Thomas is one of the best guards in the league.

(3) We were told we overpaid for Cornelius Griffin ($8M SB), who was allegedly an underachieving washout from NY. Griffin has turned out to be one of the best players on our defense.

(4) We were told that we overpaid for Marcus Washington ($8M SB), who also turned out to be a Pro Bowler and one of the best OLBs in the league.

I could go on and on with such examples.

Pocket$ $traight 03-02-2007 10:39 PM

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[quote=Rexi;283041]Holy shit. We signed Michael Lewis too.

Finally we have a hard hitting secondary again. Maybe Boldin and Fitzgerald won't rape us as bad this season.[/quote]

Think again. Walt Harris couldn't cover Boldin or Fitzgerald if his life depended on it. Clements and his agent are in line after them in the 49er rape line. He isn't worth anywhere near 80 million.

It is funny what happens when it is perceived that the Redskins want a player. Other teams break the bank.

Nice one Nolan!

Rexi 03-02-2007 10:43 PM

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;283123]I'll give you Archie. But we paid less in terms of salary and signing bonuses for BOTH Carter and Lloyd than you did for Clements. Carter looked really impressive down the stretch and Lloyd is a big question mark.[/quote]Yeah we did pay more than those combined but Clements >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lloyd + Carter. I think Clements is really only going to make 7.5 per year or something. Not bad for an elite corner, especially with the WR's is our division.

MTK 03-02-2007 10:43 PM

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The 49ers are becoming the Redskins of the west... looks like they're trying to take our title of the offseason champs.

Rexi 03-02-2007 10:48 PM

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[quote=Grim21Reaper;283140]Think again. Walt Harris couldn't cover Boldin or Fitzgerald if his life depended on it. Clements and his agent are in line after them in the 49er rape line. He isn't worth anywhere near 80 million.

It is funny what happens when it is perceived that the Redskins want a player. Other teams break the bank.

Nice one Nolan![/quote]Well who the **** can cover Anquan Boldin or Larry Fitzgerald genius? Harris had one of the best seasons I've seen a corner have in a while.

And you are an idiot if you think Clements is actually going to get 80 million. Try 1/4 of that, if the math isn't too difficult for you.

Rexi 03-02-2007 10:55 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;283145]The 49ers are becoming the Redskins of the west... looks like they're trying to take our title of the offseason champs.[/quote]We had 35 million to spend coming into the offseason with the most space in the NFL... Did no one expect us to be signing huge deals?

Why don't we wait and see if these signings have no positive effect on the record before being compared to the Redskins or the Cardinals.

MTK 03-02-2007 10:57 PM

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[quote=Rexi;283157]We had 35 million to spend coming into the offseason with the most space in the NFL... Did no one expect us to be signing huge deals?

Why don't we wait and see if these signings have no positive effect on the record before being compared to the Redskins or the Cardinals.[/quote]

Trust me we know all about kicking ass this time of year. Take our word for it, don't get too excited just yet.

Pocket$ $traight 03-02-2007 11:02 PM

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[quote=Rexi;283151]Well who the **** can cover Anquan Boldin or Larry Fitzgerald genius? Harris had one of the best seasons I've seen a corner have in a while.

And you are an idiot if you think Clements is actually going to get 80 million. Try 1/4 of that, if the math isn't too difficult for you.[/quote]

Did I touch a nerve, Lexi? Well if no one can cover them, why did you just pay a corner 81 million?

Btw, he is getting 22 million in guaranteed money. Let's see in second grade, I learned that 4 x 22 equals 88. Any more questions, you mental midget?

I guess his base salaries are going to be negative. You should take your comedy act on the road but don't travel on any highways with double digits, you may get lost.

Questfor31 03-02-2007 11:08 PM

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The 9ers way overpaid for Nate Clements. Nate's skills were beginnning to diminish during his last two years in Buffalo. He was not the shut down, ball hawk of a corner that he was the three years prior. Nate's a good corner, but he's no Champ Bailey. 8 years, $80 mil for an overrated player is a bit excessive.

Pocket$ $traight 03-02-2007 11:09 PM

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[quote=Questfor31;283173]The 9ers way overpaid for Nate Clements. Nate's skills were beginnning to diminish during his last two years in Buffalo. He was not the shut down, ball hawk of a corner that he was the three years prior. Nate's a good corner, but he's no Champ Bailey. 8 years, $80 mil for an overrated player is a bit excessive.[/quote]

Don't tell Lexi that, he may throw his bizarro world math on you...

Rexi 03-02-2007 11:11 PM

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[quote=Grim21Reaper;283163]Did I touch a nerve, Lexi? Well if no one can cover them, why did you just pay a corner 81 million? [/quote] Maybe because he will do a better job at covering them then nearly anyone else in the NFL would? It's called an [B]upgrade.[/B] Are you saying that because some WR's are nearly uncoverable there is no point in signing good corners???
[QUOTE]
Btw, he is getting 22 million in guaranteed money. Let's see in second grade, I learned that 4 x 22 equals 88. Any more questions, you mental midget?[/QUOTE]Then why the hell did you say he isn't worth 80 million? You acted like we just handed him the check.
[QUOTE]
I guess his base salaries are going to be negative. You should take your comedy act on the road but don't travel on any highways with double digits, you may get lost.[/QUOTE]... okay?

Rexi 03-02-2007 11:14 PM

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[quote=Questfor31;283173]The 9ers way overpaid for Nate Clements. Nate's skills were beginnning to diminish during his last two years in Buffalo. He was not the shut down, ball hawk of a corner that he was the three years prior. Nate's a good corner, but he's no Champ Bailey. 8 years, $80 mil for an overrated player is a bit excessive.[/quote]
Well shut down corners don't really exist. Even Bailey isn't a shut down corner, though he finally lived up to his reputation somewhat this season. What I like about him is how aggressive he is.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-02-2007 11:16 PM

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I like Nate Clements, but he's not the best defensive player in the league even though he's getting paid like he is.

Rexi 03-02-2007 11:18 PM

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[quote=Grim21Reaper;283174]Don't tell Lexi that, he may throw his bizarro world math on you...[/quote]Bizarro world math? Do you disagree that 22 is roughly 1/4 of 80? If that's bizarro world math to you then estimation must be tough.

Rexi 03-02-2007 11:21 PM

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;283184]I like Nate Clements, but he's not the best defensive player in the league even though he's getting paid like he is.[/quote]
I agree, that would go to Shawn Merriman. But nearly everyone is over-paid as a FA. It's the nature of the market.

Pocket$ $traight 03-02-2007 11:40 PM

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quote=Rexi;283186]Bizarro world math? Do you disagree that 22 is roughly 1/4 of 80? If that's bizarro world math to you then estimation must be tough.[/quote]


What about the base salaries, Stephen Hawking? Did you forget about those? When you learn simple arithmetic we can talk contracts.

Rexi 03-02-2007 11:42 PM

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And BTW, is changing the first letter of my screen name from an 'R' to an 'L' when addresssing me supposed to be a clever insult? Am I missing something or are you just that lame?

Pocket$ $traight 03-02-2007 11:43 PM

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;283184]I like Nate Clements, but he's not the best defensive player in the league even though he's getting paid like he is.[/quote]

I bet Frank Gore would be better at corner. Since he is better than Emmit and Tomlinson, he has nothing to prove as a runningback.

Pocket$ $traight 03-02-2007 11:44 PM

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[quote=Rexi;283217]And BTW, is changing the first letter of my screen name from an 'R' to an 'L' when addresssing me supposed to be a clever insult? Am I missing something or are you just that lame?[/quote]

Just explain to me how Clements is only going to earn roughly 1/4th of his 81 million dollar contract when he will recieve 22 million without stepping on the field.

I have my laughtrack ready.

Pocket$ $traight 03-02-2007 11:48 PM

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[quote=Rexi;283176]Maybe because he will do a better job at covering them then nearly anyone else in the NFL would? It's called an [B]upgrade.[/B] Are you saying that because some WR's are nearly uncoverable there is no point in signing good corners???
Then why the hell did you say he isn't worth 80 million? You acted like we just handed him the check.
... okay?[/quote]


Champ could cover them. But since he didn't sign with the 9ers, I guess he isn't in the same league as Clements.

If no one can cover them, I would say the money would be better spent on someone like Thomas or a defensive lineman. If you can't cover the receiver you should pressure the QB.

Rexi 03-02-2007 11:48 PM

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[quote=Grim21Reaper;283214]quote=Rexi;283186]Bizarro world math? Do you disagree that 22 is roughly 1/4 of 80? If that's bizarro world math to you then estimation must be tough.[/quote]


What about the base salaries, Stephen Hawking? Did you forget about those? When you learn simple arithmetic we can talk contracts.[/quote]Do you think 80 million is his base salary or something?

Pocket$ $traight 03-02-2007 11:49 PM

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[quote=Rexi;283227]What about the base salaries, Stephen Hawking? Did you forget about those? When you learn simple arithmetic we can talk contracts.[/quote]Do you think 80 million is his base salary or something?[/quote]

Read your posts and then we can talk about this. You have no idea what you typed, do you...

FRPLG 03-02-2007 11:53 PM

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[QUOTE=Rexi;283227]Do you think 80 million is his base salary or something?[/QUOTE]

Rexi. He gets paid a salary also. The SB is up front money. As in: "here's a check for 22 mil, sign the contract and it is yours." Most of the rest of the contract is salary which he earns when actually playing. By the end of the first season he will have made more than 1/4 of the money.

Pocket$ $traight 03-02-2007 11:56 PM

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[quote=FRPLG;283232]Rexi. He gets paid a salary also. The SB is up front money. As in: "here's a check for 22 mil, sign the contract and it is yours." Most of the rest of the contract is salary which he earns when actually playing. By the end of the first season he will have made more than 1/4 of the money.[/quote]

Thank you for the explaination. I forgot the golden rule, "Redskins fans are smarter than your team's fans".

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-02-2007 11:57 PM

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[quote=Grim21Reaper;283218]I bet Frank Gore would be better at corner. Since he is better than Emmit and Tomlinson, he has nothing to prove as a runningback.[/quote]


hahahahahahahahahahaha that is the funniest thing i have heard all day

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-02-2007 11:58 PM

Re: Rumor: Nate Clements to 49ers.
 
[quote=FRPLG;283232]Rexi. He gets paid a salary also. The SB is up front money. As in: "here's a check for 22 mil, sign the contract and it is yours." Most of the rest of the contract is salary which he earns when actually playing. By the end of the first season he will have made more than 1/4 of the money.[/quote]


ding ding we have a winner

Pocket$ $traight 03-03-2007 12:00 AM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;283237]hahahahahahahahahahaha that is the funniest thing i have heard all day[/quote]

If you really want to laugh, read Rexi's old posts where he argued that Frank Gore was better than Emmit and in the same class as Tomlinson.

I don't make this stuff up. I just leave it up to 49ers fans...


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