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Pocket$ $traight 01-31-2006 12:08 AM

Re: CFL Versus NFL Game
 
The only good thing about America Jr. is that they have a lot of oil that we can use over the next century.

CFL vs. NFL??? I would say that the XFL all-stars would wax the CFL players. They have nothing on He-hate-me! Is Jeff Garcia French? That would explain a lot...

That Guy 01-31-2006 12:19 AM

Re: CFL Versus NFL Game
 
armchair's only proof of his opinion is a single player's subjective opinion (not based on facts). Moon has never (to my knowledge) held a GM or scout title for any NFL organization and the disparity in salaries between the leagues has grown exponentially since moon was in the CFL.

You're not looking for a debate, you're looking for either blind obedience or someone to tell you how smart you are. If you're incapable of having anyone challenge you're opinions then i'm sorry, but the internet just isn't for you.

Here's a fact for the debate, we just signed a RB from the CFL (6th pick overall and unquestioned #1 i heard), and he came to the skins where he's #5 or 6 on the depth chart and will have to be beyond lucky to even make the roster (much less every get a carry in a meaningful NFL game).

The money involved is so vastly disproportionate that almost NO ONE would ever stay in the CFL if they had the option to make 4x-100x as much per year in the NFL.

HolyLandSkinsFan 01-31-2006 12:35 AM

Re: CFL Versus NFL Game
 
it would be great to kill some canadians

anyway, we would wine cause we don't need to punt on third down

oh, and we're much better too.

armchair jock 02-06-2006 12:09 PM

Re: CFL Versus NFL Game
 
Oh, one more thing fellas. After watching that "YAWNER" that is called the Superbowl, I now agree that an NFL team would beat an all-star team from the CFL. No doubt, they would bore the CFL to death - (7 - 3) after the half - give me a break. With all their so-called superior talent you think they would put up numbers that didn't mirror a soccer score. WOW, you guys can keep it; I will continue to follow the much more exciting CFL.

TheMalcolmConnection 02-06-2006 12:10 PM

Re: CFL Versus NFL Game
 
That's a new one on me. Someone saying the CFL is better than the NFL. LOL

hail_2_da_skins 02-06-2006 12:13 PM

Re: CFL Versus NFL Game
 
Hey make the Pro Bowl interesting. Have the NFL All Pros play the CFL All Pros. Alternate between the NFL rules and the CFL rules.

armchair jock 02-06-2006 12:20 PM

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[QUOTE=hail_2_da_skins]Hey make the Pro Bowl interesting. Have the NFL All Pros play the CFL All Pros. Alternate between the NFL rules and the CFL rules.[/QUOTE]

WARNING! For someone to suggest such an "absurd" idea is to run the risk of being laughed out of this forum by 99.99% of its adherents. I see you are from the US which will probably mitigate their wrath. You've got "balls" though.

FRPLG 02-06-2006 02:30 PM

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[QUOTE=armchair jock]WARNING! For someone to suggest such an "absurd" idea is to run the risk of being laughed out of this forum by 99.99% of its adherents. I see you are from the US which will probably mitigate their wrath. You've got "balls" though.[/QUOTE]
I thought you weren't coming back? So now not only are you totally naive and/or misinformed you are also a liar.

armchair jock 02-06-2006 03:09 PM

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[QUOTE=FRPLG]I thought you weren't coming back? So now not only are you totally naive and/or misinformed you are also a liar.[/QUOTE]

Admit it you are glad to have me back. Aren't you sport? By the way, that naive shot really hurt. :)

hail_2_da_skins 02-06-2006 05:27 PM

Re: CFL Versus NFL Game
 
[QUOTE=armchair jock]WARNING! For someone to suggest such an "absurd" idea is to run the risk of being laughed out of this forum by 99.99% of its adherents. I see you are from the US which will probably mitigate their wrath. You've got "balls" though.[/QUOTE]I assumed that this forum has a sense of humor. I guess you didn't get it.
:spank:

redskinsfanatic 02-06-2006 07:11 PM

Re: CFL Versus NFL Game
 
personally,i would love to see the canadian league become a rivalry with the nfl like the old afl was!since the CFL has a few different regulations they would have to be worked out for the"Super Bowl."or whatever it wo be called.

armchair jock 02-06-2006 09:35 PM

pparently
 
[QUOTE=hail_2_da_skins]I assumed that this forum has a sense of humor. I guess you didn't get it.
:spank:[/QUOTE]

Apparently not. Do you think the post above this one comes from a funny guy as well?

That Guy 02-07-2006 03:56 AM

Re: CFL Versus NFL Game
 
[QUOTE=armchair jock]Oh, one more thing fellas. After watching that "YAWNER" that is called the Superbowl, I now agree that an NFL team would beat an all-star team from the CFL. No doubt, they would bore the CFL to death - (7 - 3) after the half - give me a break. With all their so-called superior talent you think they would put up numbers that didn't mirror a soccer score. WOW, you guys can keep it; I will continue to follow the much more exciting CFL.[/QUOTE]

blah blah blah, stay angry, keep hating.

The defenses on both teams were very good. Maybe they don't play defense in canada? either way, it wasn't a very good super bowl unlike the previous two years.

btw, if you want basketball scores, the AFL has a lot more points than the CFL... or women's semi-pro where you have a lot of 100-0 type games as well ;)

armchair jock 02-07-2006 10:58 AM

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[QUOTE=That Guy]blah blah blah, stay angry, keep hating.

I can assure you sir that my post has nothing to do with hating; it has to do with my observation about the game itself. I assumed that this is what this forum is for. If you want to see borderline hate, look at some of the previous posts made by others. I have tried to keep my conversation somewhat football oriented. Many others have taken the opportunity to go on the attack which is not surprising based on what I know of Americans. If you don't realize it already, the vast majority of Americans that I have talked with don't believe that anything of value exists outside of their own border. Many of the posters in this forum have just confirmed that.

That Guy 02-07-2006 12:30 PM

Re: CFL Versus NFL Game
 
[QUOTE=armchair jock][QUOTE=That Guy]blah blah blah, stay angry, keep hating.

I can assure you sir that my post has nothing to do with hating; it has to do with my observation about the game itself. I assumed that this is what this forum is for. If you want to see borderline hate, look at some of the previous posts made by others. I have tried to keep my conversation somewhat football oriented. Many others have taken the opportunity to go on the attack which is not surprising based on what I know of Americans. If you don't realize it already, the vast majority of Americans that I have talked with don't believe that anything of value exists outside of their own border. Many of the posters in this forum have just confirmed that.[/QUOTE]

you realize you started insulting people first and you continue to lash out while telling people your the victim right? All while making brash generalizations and nation-baiting :P

drop the arrogance. You stopped the debate a million posts ago and haven't answered any of the points i made or brought up any new facts. Instead its just space wasted with pointless insults.

How many NFL players have jumped to the CFL when both leagues would give them contracts? How many in the last 15 years? I'd guess the answer would be zero. How many have bolted canada to join the NFL though? Of those offered contracts i'd make a very conservative guess of 80%. If one league can suck talent out of every other league in the world at such a high rate, what makes you think they could compete besides the words of one ex-qb who didn't want to insult his CFL teammates and has never held a scout or general manager's post?

If you don't want to debate facts, you're just trolling. But everything you're claiming about othersyou've been guilty of too, and you've generally been the first to start it as well ;)

armchair jock 02-07-2006 01:21 PM

Re: CFL Versus NFL Game
 
[QUOTE=That Guy][QUOTE=armchair jock]

you realize you started insulting people first and you continue to lash out while telling people your the victim right? All while making brash generalizations and nation-baiting :P

drop the arrogance. You stopped the debate a million posts ago and haven't answered any of the points i made or brought up any new facts. Instead its just space wasted with pointless insults.

How many NFL players have jumped to the CFL when both leagues would give them contracts? How many in the last 15 years? I'd guess the answer would be zero. How many have bolted canada to join the NFL though? Of those offered contracts i'd make a very conservative guess of 80%. If one league can suck talent out of every other league in the world at such a high rate, what makes you think they could compete besides the words of one ex-qb who didn't want to insult his CFL teammates and has never held a scout or general manager's post?

If you don't want to debate facts, you're just trolling. But everything you're claiming about othersyou've been guilty of too, and you've generally been the first to start it as well ;)[/QUOTE]

If your perspective is accurate, then I fit right in don't I? Does this mean we are all brothers?

FRPLG 02-07-2006 02:47 PM

Re: CFL Versus NFL Game
 
[QUOTE=armchair jock][QUOTE=That Guy]blah blah blah, stay angry, keep hating.

I can assure you sir that my post has nothing to do with hating; it has to do with my observation about the game itself. I assumed that this is what this forum is for. If you want to see borderline hate, look at some of the previous posts made by others. I have tried to keep my conversation somewhat football oriented. Many others have taken the opportunity to go on the attack which is not surprising based on what I know of Americans. If you don't realize it already, the vast majority of Americans that I have talked with don't believe that anything of value exists outside of their own border. Many of the posters in this forum have just confirmed that.[/QUOTE]
I think you need to name names if you are going to generalize. All you're doing is angering a entire forum when you simply say "others". Who are you talking about? What was said that led you to believe anyone "hated" the CFL? I would venture a guess that most here simply have little respect for it. Not hate. In fact I am damn sure that just about every comment here has been about our ability to respect the CFL. Why don't we stick to things that can be supported with honest arguments instead of going flamestyle when you encounter a vast group who simply disagrees with you? Open you eyes man you are the one perpetuating this entire thing.

armchair jock 02-07-2006 03:10 PM

Re: CFL Versus NFL Game
 
[QUOTE=FRPLG][QUOTE=armchair jock]
I think you need to name names if you are going to generalize. All you're doing is angering a entire forum when you simply say "others". Who are you talking about? What was said that led you to believe anyone "hated" the CFL? I would venture a guess that most here simply have little respect for it. Not hate. In fact I am damn sure that just about every comment here has been about our ability to respect the CFL. Why don't we stick to things that can be supported with honest arguments instead of going flamestyle when you encounter a vast group who simply disagrees with you? Open you eyes man you are the one perpetuating this entire thing.[/QUOTE]

Gee where to begin. Let's see: you say: "I would venture a guess that most here simply have little respect for it. Not hate. In fact I am damn sure that just about every comment has been about our ability to respect the CFL." Do you not see the nonsensical contradiction in these two sentences?

armchair jock 02-07-2006 03:12 PM

Re: CFL Versus NFL Game
 
[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper]Why would we send NFL all stars when any college team in the top 25 could whoop the all-stars from America Jr?[/QUOTE]

Does this quote sound like respect?

armchair jock 02-07-2006 03:13 PM

Re: CFL Versus NFL Game
 
[QUOTE=FRPLG]The best players in the CFL might make teams in the NFL but I wouldn't bet on any of them starting. The talent differnce isn't even immense. It is beyond immense. Any NFL team could beat an allstar CFL team hands down. An allstar NFL team might actually hurt a significant portion of a CFL allstar team. Score prediction: 69-3[/QUOTE]

Does this resemble anything close to repect?

armchair jock 02-07-2006 03:15 PM

Re: CFL Versus NFL Game
 
[QUOTE=skns03]i think the cfl is a waste of time and money arena football is the best :towel:[/QUOTE]

Would you consider this quote respectful?

armchair jock 02-07-2006 03:15 PM

Re: CFL Versus NFL Game
 
[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper]The only good thing about America Jr. is that they have a lot of oil that we can use over the next century.

CFL vs. NFL??? I would say that the XFL all-stars would wax the CFL players. They have nothing on He-hate-me! Is Jeff Garcia French? That would explain a lot...[/QUOTE]

Respectful?

armchair jock 02-07-2006 03:18 PM

Re: CFL Versus NFL Game
 
[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper]Why are we discussing the America Jr. football league? Is this normal for the offseason?[/QUOTE]

How about this one? Now granted, this guy may be thee biggest dork in here, so this may be unfair!

armchair jock 02-07-2006 03:18 PM

Re: CFL Versus NFL Game
 
[QUOTE=HolyLandSkinsFan]it would be great to kill some canadians

anyway, we would wine cause we don't need to punt on third down

oh, and we're much better too.[/QUOTE]

Do I need to ask if this is respectful?

TheMalcolmConnection 02-07-2006 03:20 PM

Re: CFL Versus NFL Game
 
[QUOTE=armchair jock]How about this one? Now granted, this guy may be thee biggest dork in here, so this may be unfair![/QUOTE]

I actually thought it was pretty funny.

armchair jock 02-07-2006 03:23 PM

Re: CFL Versus NFL Game
 
So, don't even start with this respect crap.

12thMan 02-07-2006 03:36 PM

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[QUOTE=armchair jock]So, don't even start with this respect crap.[/QUOTE]


If you have visited this site for any real length of time, you should know we disagree here all the time on a wide range of subjects.

And the tone can come across, well, harsh. I think you should calm down a little, breathe in and out, and have some fun.

SmootSmack 02-07-2006 03:39 PM

Re: CFL Versus NFL Game
 
I have a great deal of respect for Canada (greatest city I've ever been to...Vancouver), Canadians (heck I'm marrying one), and the CFL (before there was Mike Vick, there was Damon Allen)

That being said, people are entitled to other opinions here. And for someone to come along and get all upset when another poster offers a different point of view...well that's just not very productive.

This back and forth is pointless. Armchair jock, I think you see now that this site has a wide range of opinions on various topics. If you want to talk about other football (or non-football) related topics there are plenty of other threads to check out. If all you want is to claim your a victim of xenophobia then that's your business, but don't do it on our time. I'm sure you know plenty about football, not just the CFL, it would be a shame if you wasted your time on TheWarpath.net bitching and moaning about a handful of posts that don't agree with you.

armchair jock 02-07-2006 03:55 PM

Re: CFL Versus NFL Game
 
I felt attacked. Therefore, I went on the attack. I am sorry for that. Please forgive me.

12thMan 02-07-2006 03:56 PM

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[QUOTE=armchair jock]I felt attacked. Therefore, I went on the attack. I am sorry for that. Please forgive me.[/QUOTE]

No worries, brother, just add what you have to the pot.

FRPLG 02-07-2006 09:09 PM

Re: CFL Versus NFL Game
 
[QUOTE=armchair jock][QUOTE=FRPLG]

Gee where to begin. Let's see: you say: "I would venture a guess that most here simply have little respect for it. Not hate. In fact I am damn sure that just about every comment has been about our ability to respect the CFL." Do you not see the nonsensical contradiction in these two sentences?[/QUOTE]
Hey DA. Read. I said we DIDN'T, as in DID NOT, respect. So all of your examples only reinforced what I said. We have no respect for the CFL because it has not given us anything to respect in the way of comparing it's competiveness with the NFL. My point was that we didn't hate the CFL but had no respect for it. Give me one reason to respect it as far as being competitve with the NFL. Just one.

That Guy 02-08-2006 01:41 AM

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[QUOTE=armchair jock][QUOTE=That Guy]

If your perspective is accurate, then I fit right in don't I? Does this mean we are all brothers?[/QUOTE]

no, and absolutely not. You encountered people that disagreed with you and totally tanked the debate in favor of crying about how no one agrees with you.

You still haven't offered any counter examples to my points and just wasted about 20 more posts saying NOTHING of value.

who in the CFL is a legit NFL starter right now?

I'm trying to get this back on track, but there's obviously no interest from you anymore, so i gues we should go ahead and let this thing die.

If you think someone with a differing opinion is the same thing as being attacked then you REALLY shouldn't bother ever starting any kind of debate with anyone ever again though.

armchair jock 03-08-2006 08:19 PM

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Boys: After just watching Canada defeat what amounts to a USA Major League All Star team in Baseball, I am even more convinced that an All Star CFL team could give a team from the NFL a good go and could even beat them. You gotta love it - I know I do. What do you say about that fellas?

70Chip 03-08-2006 08:27 PM

Re: CFL Versus NFL Game
 
[QUOTE=armchair jock]Boys: After just watching Canada defeat what amounts to a USA Major League All Star team in Baseball, I am even more convinced that an All Star CFL team could give a team from the NFL a good go and could even beat them. You gotta love it - I know I do. What do you say about that fellas?[/QUOTE]

What's baseball?

armchair jock 03-08-2006 08:50 PM

Cl;a
 
It is the World Classic Baseball Tournament that includes teams from USA, Canada, Korea, Panama, Japan, South Africa etc. Players that play for the Major Leagues are representing the USA while Canada has some players playing for them who are Major Leaguers and many who play triple A etc. Of course, many of the people think that the CFL is like a triple A (farm team) compared to the NFL. Maybe some of you guys with the big yaps will think twice about making those comparsions after this baseball classic that USA announcers are expressing major disappointment at the loss because in their words - "no team was supposed to even come close to the USA team; let alone beat them" Hey, they sound like many of you people in this room. Take that boys.

FRPLG 03-08-2006 09:03 PM

Re: Cl;a
 
[QUOTE=armchair jock]It is the World Classic Baseball Tournament that includes teams from USA, Canada, Korea, Panama, Japan, South Africa etc. Players that play for the Major Leagues are representing the USA while Canada has some players playing for them who are Major Leaguers and many who play triple A etc. Of course, many of the people think that the CFL is like a triple A (farm team) compared to the NFL. Maybe some of you guys with the big yaps will think twice about making those comparsions after this baseball classic that USA announcers are expressing major disappointment at the loss because in their words - "no team was supposed to even come close to the USA team; let alone beat them" Hey, they sound like many of you people in this room. Take that boys.[/QUOTE]
Umm actually I am pretty sure that the USA was only slightly favored to win. Both the Dominican Republic and Venezuela have quality pitching staffs that an even out any offensive disparity. And being a guy brought up on baseball I can atest that a baseball game is much easier to win when you are outclassed skill wise than a football game is. Your point has no merit.

Pocket$ $traight 03-08-2006 09:19 PM

Re: CFL Versus NFL Game
 
How did the NFL vs. America Jr. thread get started again?

Like I said originally. Take any team from the College top 25 and they would dominate the teams in the America Jr. Football league.

Now pipe down and get your oil ready for us. Iran is threatening to cut production.

armchair jock 03-08-2006 09:38 PM

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[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper]How did the NFL vs. America Jr. thread get started again?

Like I said originally. Take any team from the College top 25 and they would dominate the teams in the America Jr. Football league.

Now pipe down and get your oil ready for us. Iran is threatening to cut production.[/QUOTE]

[b]BLOW ME![/b]

armchair jock 03-08-2006 09:42 PM

Re: Cl;a
 
[QUOTE=FRPLG]Umm actually I am pretty sure that the USA was only slightly favored to win. Both the Dominican Republic and Venezuela have quality pitching staffs that an even out any offensive disparity. And being a guy brought up on baseball I can atest that a baseball game is much easier to win when you are outclassed skill wise than a football game is. Your point has no merit.[/QUOTE]

Umm I am pretty sure you are wrong. According to the ESPN announcers the USA were "heavily favored" and that the loss to Canada is a "major upset" By the way, only Americans would think that them losing at anything constitutes a "major upset"

armchair jock 03-08-2006 09:47 PM

Re: CFL Versus NFL Game
 
I find it amazing (but, not suprising) that when I use the words "big mouth" old [b]Grim21Reaper[/b] comes a running. Can you roll over and play dead as well loud mouth?


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