Re: Do you support Gibbs' decision to start Brunell?
 

[QUOTE=Daseal]Absolutely not -- Brunell played like shit for 9 weeks and he didnt yank him. Ramsey played fairly well minus the INT and was getting hotter as the game went on. [B]Will he ever give him a chance[/B]?[/QUOTE]

Nope. And anyone who said Ramsey had his chance, is freaking kidding themselves. He played 1000x better than Brunell did last year. In my opinion, Ramsey played better than Brunell yesterday. I dont get this decision at all.

Re: Do you support Gibbs' decision to start Brunell?
 

Do you see my user name? That stands for Joe Knows Best. He is the coach of this team and he is a Hall Of Fame Coach at that. A H.O.F. Coach that has won us 3 Super Bowls. The man knows better than any one else who he needs to run his offense.

Look, I am a HUGE Ramsey fan. I actually got to hang out with him in the Dickinson College courtyard his first day of training camp his rookie year (the day Jon Janson tied him to the goal post and hazed him with ice.) He is a very nice guy, and an excellent person of character. But the fact of the matter is, ever since Steve Spurrier let him get killed and anialated and hung him out to dry that year, he has not been the same Quarterback. He has been figity and indecisive and worst of all, he has made very poor decisions with the football. And when you shoot your self in the foot you can't win football games.

I had that happen to me when I played QB in High School. I got creemated, and I know what it does to you. It ruins you. Your never the same afterward. Your instincts change. And you become figity and indecisive, and you get a false sense of urgency even when there is no pressure. Wich results in bad decisions with the football.

That is what happened with Patrick. Lately he has bee wreckless with the football and allowed too many unescessary turn over opurtunities. He doesn't need to force things with a defense like ours.

As long as we have the defense we have, we don't need to make too many big plays. All we had to do was control the football. Just like the Ravens did when they rode their defense all the way to the super bowl.

Of coarse, with John Hall out now, that will be a lot more difficult unless we can find a competent and confident place kicker.

But with Mark Brunell this year, he seems a lot more healthy and more like his old self from his pro-bowl days in Jacksonville. With Brunell, you know he'll protect the football and make smarter decisions. He's a veteran and will do just what needs to be done to give our defense the best chance to keep us in the ball game. Plus, his mobility makes defenses not just que in and blitz all the time like they did against Patrick. Brunell can beat the blitz alot better than Patrick. He also gets the ball out quicker than Patrick.

I think Brunell has looked excellent this year and gives us the best chance to win, so as much as I love Patrick Ramsey, I am jumping on the Brunell band wagon. We are in the bussiness of winning football games and winning is all that matters. And Mark Brunell gives us the best chance of winning.

My final answer to the question is yes.

And as a side note, if Ramsey must be traded for him to be happy then I hope he gets what he wants so he can be happy in life. He deserves at least that much. I just don't see how he'll start for any other NFL teams except maybe for Cleveland or possibly even the Jets with Pennington seemingly finished after that shoulder surgery causing him to loose all his mechanics and arm strength.

Re: Do you support Gibbs' decision to start Brunell?
 

[QUOTE=Daseal]Absolutely not -- Brunell played like shit for 9 weeks and he didnt yank him. Ramsey played fairly well minus the INT and was getting hotter as the game went on. Will he ever give him a chance?[/QUOTE]

The writing was on Gibbs' draft board....Ramsey was done pretty much the minute Gibbs came to Washington.

Re: Do you support Gibbs' decision to start Brunell?
 

Hell no. Brunell is done and has been for like 4 years.

Re: Do you support Gibbs' decision to start Brunell?
 

Yes, he kept his word to Ramsey by making him the starter for this season. Unfortunately for Ramsey, he just couldn't take advantage of his opportunity; meanwhile, Brunell took advantage of the playing time he was given and was rewarded with more playing time.

Re: Do you support Gibbs' decision to start Brunell?
 

I think Gibbs had it with Ramseys costly interceptions.
Gibbs wants to give the team it's best shot to win so he made a tough decision...... I'll support it. I loved Brunell in his younger days......he sure ain't what he used to be but he won't lose games because of bad decisions either......

Re: Do you support Gibbs' decision to start Brunell?
 

At first I was upset by the decision, probably because it came as quite a surprise to me. After thinking it over however, I realize that although ramsey has been racking up good yardage, brunell is the smarter QB who can keep the ball moving, and that is what we need. He has looked really good so far this year. With that said, I will say yes as my answer.

Re: Do you support Gibbs' decision to start Brunell?
 

No.

Re: Do you support Gibbs' decision to start Brunell?
 

I said all along that we would see Brunell again. I support the decision because I'm sure at this time Gibbs feels Brunell gives us the best chance to win games, not popularity contests. Turnovers is something Gibbs has never had much stomach for, and I honestly think he feels Ramsey will continue turning the ball over and it's only going to cost us games. Let's see where the move takes us.

Re: Do you support Gibbs' decision to start Brunell?
 

A very reluctant yes from me. This whole season rests on our defense now. If we go down by more than 10-12 points, we're toast.

Re: Do you support Gibbs' decision to start Brunell?
 

Yes. Gibbs said that it was a "feeling" he had to start Brunell. I have had the same feeling too. I like Patrick, but let's face it... he didn't exactly make an overwhelming impression in making this team HIS. Gibbs said he was looking for a QB to step up and command this team. Brunell has that and he has looked more like the guy we thought he would be last year.

Re: Do you support Gibbs' decision to start Brunell?
 

Yes--given the play of the two of them in preseason.

Gibbs mistake was making PR the starter before camp. I don't like the quick hook, but in a way, it's not that quick--his play in preseason was the same as in the 1.5 quarters yesterday. Still, the whole thing feels clumsy.

Remember, PR asked for a trade when Brunnell came in, played shaky in last preseason, sat, and then played better. Hopefully, he'll get calmed down and be ready when old man brunnell gets hurt, and we need him.

Re: Do you support Gibbs' decision to start Brunell?
 

[QUOTE=Daseal]Absolutely not -- Brunell played like shit for 9 weeks and he didnt yank him. Ramsey played fairly well minus the INT and was getting hotter as the game went on. Will he ever give him a chance?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=gmanc711]Nope. And anyone who said Ramsey had his chance, is freaking kidding themselves. He played 1000x better than Brunell did last year. In my opinion, Ramsey played better than Brunell yesterday. I dont get this decision at all.[/QUOTE]


DAMN STRAIGHT MEN!

Gibbs has a hard on for Brunell, he loves to harp on Ramsey for INT's while Ramsey is still learning Gibbs system and growing as a young QB, yet last season it was as if Brunell never had a turnover, yet his turnovers were the most costly of all, we lost 2 games as a direct result of his fumbles, but that's OK, Ramsey can drive the ball up and down the field all day and if he throws an INT he's crusified, yet Brunell can go drive after drive without a first down and it's fine, perhaps if Brunell actually tried to make a realistic attemt to get the ball downfield he might have a few more INT's as well, but we all know that ain't happening.

I really have lost respect for Gibbs in this matter, no way did Brunell do anything to unseat Ramsey, yet there it is he's starting, does anyone think Ramsey is getting 1/10 of the chance Brunell was given last year? No way! This is all about Gibbs not being able to swallow his pride and admit he royally screwed up in not only bringing Brunell in, but giving up the farm to do so, when we all knew he was being released, Gibbs came along and went after him as if he was the second coming of Marino.

Does anyone really believe Gibbs wasen't looking for any excuse whatsoever to put Ramsey on the bench? If you don't your only kidding yourself!


I am chalking another one up in the win column for dallas monday, the only good thing that will come out of it is the beating, and reality check, Gibbs and Brunell are going to have once Parcells get's through with them.

Re: Do you support Gibbs' decision to start Brunell?
 

Whether or not you think Brunell is better than Ramsey, you have to question the timing. If Gibbs thought Brunell was better then Ramsey than why give him the start? Once him named PR the starter, why not give PR at least a full half of a game? A starting QB change before game 2, a nationaly televised game against the Cowboys is not a smart move. You think the media isn't going to pester every member of the team and coaching staff to death over this issue?

Plus where does this lead? Lets we are 2-4 or even 3-3 after 6 games, does he stick with more of Brunell, go back to Ramsey after he pretty much burnned that bridge, or go with the rookie? Same thing for when/if Brunell gets hurt in a few weeks.

I could see making this move after a bad performance on Monday or after week 3, but this is just a early I think.

Re: Do you support Gibbs' decision to start Brunell?
 

19 minutes as starting QB. that has to be a record for a player healthy enough to play the week after. you'd be mindless not to question it.