Commanders 2025 Offseason Thread
 

[QUOTE=88Commanders00;1372424]To fully rebuild, it will take 2 more years. You can’t fill our needs this offseason but we can move closer. 2026 we get those final pieces.

We might actually slip to 10-7,11-6 due to people having tape on Jayden now and our opponents will be tougher. At least on paper.[/QUOTE]


When your as good as Jayden tape does not matter. People watched tape for 20 years on Brady and it didn’t matter. You cant stop Allen, or Mahomes. Tape will show you a player’s weakness but if they don’t have any good luck. He is that good.

We win at least 7 at home next year. Book it.

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[quote=punch it in;1372437]When your as good as Jayden tape does not matter. People watched tape for 20 years on Brady and it didn’t matter. You cant stop Allen, or Mahomes. Tape will show you a player’s weakness but if they don’t have any good luck. He is that good.

We win at least 7 at home next year. Book it.[/quote]

True. Equally valid to point out people have years of film of Barkley and the Eagles OL/scheme. He still nearly broke the single season rushing record.

It's about having everything; coaching, scheme fit, culture, but above all the best athletes in every key position. We don't have all the pieces yet, but we're not a million miles away.

P1 - OL, DL (particularly edge), CB.
P2 - RB and WR (big play ability), and S (a Taylor/Reed guy that can cover the field and create turnovers).
P3 - LB, K and possibly P (Way is an FA, isn't cheap and can't play forever anyway). And if we don't re-sign Mariota, a #2 QB.

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I wouldn't be surprised if we try to bring in DeMarcus Lawrence. Not sure how much he has left in the tank tho.

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Actually, it will be interesting what the expectations for 25 will be ?

Super Bowl? NFC Championship? Winning the division?

I wouldn’t be surprised with at least a championship appearance again but I also wouldn’t be shocked if we slip slightly to 10-7/11-6 and 6th or 7th seed?

Jayden will keep us competitive but how does the retooled team respond.

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[quote=88Commanders00;1372460]Actually, it will be interesting what the expectations for 25 will be ?

Super Bowl? NFC Championship? Winning the division?

I wouldn’t be surprised with at least a championship appearance again but I also wouldn’t be shocked if we slip slightly to 10-7/11-6 and 6th or 7th seed?

Jayden will keep us competitive but how does the retooled team respond.[/quote]

Compete for the division for sure, but no complaints about taking a wild-card spot. Eagles will probably be tough next year too.

It's going to be a LONG LONG wait for FA to start. I think you look forward to it even more when you're on the cusp of being a regular super bowl contender.

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Trent Scott filled in pretty dang good at OG. I'm curious to see if he sticks on the roster next season as a swing G rather than an OT.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1372461]Compete for the division for sure, but no complaints about taking a wild-card spot. Eagles will probably be tough next year too.

It's going to be a LONG LONG wait for FA to start. I think you look forward to it even more when you're on the cusp of being a regular super bowl contender.[/quote]

Eagles are one of the youngest teams in the league and will get younger moving on from Slay and Johnson. Keeping contracts low they could be a very tough out

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1372471]Eagles are one of the youngest teams in the league and will get younger moving on from Slay and Johnson. Keeping contracts low they could be a very tough out[/quote]

That's depressing information. Sad panda.

Howie Rosman vs. Adam Peters GM Duel for the next 10 years could be a thing.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1372472]That's depressing information. Sad panda.

Howie Rosman vs. Adam Peters GM Duel for the next 10 years could be a thing.[/quote]

I might get torched for this but I felt Peters did better in FA than draft (which is still way early to judge) JD was obvious I feel his real hit was Mikey but we need more of those type of picks.

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[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1372471]Eagles are one of the youngest teams in the league and will get younger moving on from Slay and Johnson. Keeping contracts low they could be a very tough out[/QUOTE]


And Jayden is going to get better, and AP will make sure the team around him does too. The added talent, growth of 5, and three less fumbles and I give us a punchers chance.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1372476]I might get torched for this but I felt Peters did better in FA than draft (which is still way early to judge) JD was obvious I feel his real hit was Mikey but we need more of those type of picks.[/quote]

I still think Sinnott is going to be good. But Ertz outperformed probably all of our expectations (including Peters). And TE is a tough position for a rookie. Hopefully Sinnott is a valid starting option in 2025.

Each draft you want at least 3 long-term starters. We have 2 for sure with Jayden and Sainristil. I think Coleman can be a starter but hopefully at LG and Sinnott.

But 2 of those 4 are just projections, so I won't torch you. And Peters brought in the right FA's. He pretty much hit on all of them.

It's hard to compare though, because draft picks are long term choices, while FA signings were a lot of 1 or 2 year patchwork jobs to help build the culture.

Overall, Peters gets an Easy A from me.

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Newton was solid but I also think it is reasonable to want more from a 2nd rounder. Ideally Newton and Sinnott take big steps forward next season to really solidify the draft class

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1372483]Newton was solid but I also think it is reasonable to want more from a 2nd rounder. Ideally Newton and Sinnott take big steps forward next season to really solidify the draft class[/quote]

Allen and Payne are both better names than players. I'd try to trade both. Both isn't likely, but if we can trade one of them even for a 4th rounder, I'm taking it.

I'd much rather have Newton and Payne or Allen and a 4th rounder than keep the latter 2 at high cap hits.

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[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1372476]I might get torched for this but I felt Peters did better in FA than draft (which is still way early to judge) JD was obvious I feel his real hit was Mikey but we need more of those type of picks.[/QUOTE]AP's draft got high grades at the time, and the season showed those grades were well earned. Here is the rookie draft. (few played like rookies though):
1-{2): QB Jayden Daniels, LSU

2 (36): DI Jer’Zhan Newton, Illinois

2 (50): CB Mike Sainristil, Michigan

2 (53): TE Ben Sinnott, Kansas State

3 (67): OT Brandon Coleman, TCU

3 (100): WR Luke McCaffrey, Rice

5 (139): LB Jordan Magee, Temple

5 (161): S Dominique Hampton, Washington

7 (222): EDGE Javontae Jean-Baptiste, Notre Dame

The first 3 picks look to grow into studs.
Sinnott and Magee were key ST's with high upside
Sinnott was tucked clearly behind Ertz, who played above expectations and was a clear safety valve for Daniels - I think Sinnott takes that role next year.
Hampton and Jean-Baptiste were good role players on the team for late round picks.

The only pick I think will be an obvious whiff is McCaffrey and even he showed value on returns.

Coleman held his own at LT, that was huge. He was a 3rd round selection who easily could have been a bust (think Evan Neal drafted by the NYG a few years ago) long termhe may move to OG if we get an elite LT, but he is a longterm OL fixture in the 3rd round.

I don't get what more you want from AP's draft?

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1372484]Allen and Payne are both better names than players. I'd try to trade both. Both isn't likely, but if we can trade one of them even for a 4th rounder, I'm taking it.

I'd much rather have Newton and Payne or Allen and a 4th rounder than keep the latter 2 at high cap hits.[/quote]

Allen is either going to be traded (if anyone is willing to give something up and take on the remainder of his contract) or cut (most likely). Payne's contract makes it very highly likely he will be here one more year.