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Chico23231 10-20-2020 11:22 AM

Re: What do you want to see in our next QB?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1262979]Yes Lawrence is the real deal, best since Manning[/quote]

You think he is a better prospect than Burrow and Tua?

AnonEmouse 10-20-2020 11:27 AM

Re: What do you want to see in our next QB?
 
[quote=SunnySide;1262978]If we win some games and dont fall in love with a Qb available at picks 5 to 10 (or wherever we pick) ... I am 100% down with going with a vet. Ideally, you draft your young stud QB and he becomes your Manning or Brady or Rodgers or Rivers or Wilson or even a Matthew Stafford ... but if you arent in a position to take a Trevor Lawrence, why not do what the Colts did and sign a vet like Philip Rivers.

This team is close to winning imo. The DL is a great core that gives us a window from 2021 to 2025. We intentionally didnt spend in FA this year.

Cap next year is expected to SHRINK to 175M ... that means teams like New Orleans who would be 70M over the cap already may cut Brees.

2021 free agency is going to be the strangest year ever imo. Teams may be cutting some real studs.

LT Ronnie Stanley
QB - Brees or Ryan or some other vet option may be there
LB
CB1
FS
G

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We can become competitive over night in the offseason. We are well positioned and loaded with resources.[/quote]

I see the logic, and I definitely agree on the reasoning of bringing in a vet if you can't get the player you want in the draft (rather than risk a pick on a guy you can't be confident about). But personally I'd avoid a vet that's tailing off. Brees looks to me like his arm is finally dying on him and Newton looks like the same passer he was in Carolina the last couple of years. While he is a prototypical pocket passer, I'd prefer Ryan, albeit he would absolutely need 2-3 more quality players to target. We'd need at least 1 if not 2 quality WR's, a quality receiving TE and another threat out of the backfield to go with Gibson (in the Chris Thompson mould). At least Cam can still run, but the likes of Brees and Ryan mean you have to have weapons they can throw to, as they definitely can't run.

I'd even consider Fitzmagic in the same category.

SFREDSKIN 10-20-2020 11:38 AM

Re: What do you want to see in our next QB?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1262945]Trevor Lawrence

Justin Fields

Zach Wilson

In that order[/quote]

Your boy Tua will be the new Dolphins starter after their bye week. Don’t wet your pants :)

skinsfaninok 10-20-2020 11:42 AM

Re: What do you want to see in our next QB?
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1262984]Your boy Tua will be the new Dolphins starter after their bye week. Don’t wet your pants :)[/quote]

Had one of the best roll outs ever Sunday lmao JK

punch it in 10-20-2020 11:46 AM

Re: What do you want to see in our next QB?
 
[QUOTE=Chico23231;1262981]You think he is a better prospect than Burrow and Tua?[/QUOTE]



Ill go on the record and say yes. And he will be a better pro.

SFREDSKIN 10-20-2020 11:52 AM

Re: What do you want to see in our next QB?
 
Trevor Lawrence had a spectacular Freshman year, slightly down last year. He’ll be #1 QB picked, the kid from BYU should be #2, don’t trust OSU QB’s.

skinsfaninok 10-20-2020 11:59 AM

Re: What do you want to see in our next QB?
 
[quote=Chico23231;1262981]You think he is a better prospect than Burrow and Tua?[/quote]

Yes, he's the total package man. He has that special IT factor that we have seen with Rodgers, Wilson , Mahomes etc. There isn't a throw he can't make and he's a great athlete as well.

punch it in 10-20-2020 12:01 PM

Re: What do you want to see in our next QB?
 
[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1262990]Trevor Lawrence had a spectacular Freshman year, slightly down last year. He’ll be #1 QB picked, the kid from BYU should be #2, don’t trust OSU QB’s.[/QUOTE]



Not sure where you are getting slightly down last year from.
He improved in td’s, completion percentage, yards, and overall rating last year. His rating this year is through the roof. He has never taken a step back in three years.
His mobility greatly improved also in his second year. Dude has wheels.
Im a Miami fan. I fucking hate Clemson and Trevor but the dude is legit.

SFREDSKIN 10-20-2020 12:51 PM

Re: What do you want to see in our next QB?
 
[quote=punch it in;1262992]Not sure where you are getting slightly down last year from.
He improved in td’s, completion percentage, yards, and overall rating last year. His rating this year is through the roof. He has never taken a step back in three years.
His mobility greatly improved also in his second year. Dude has wheels.
Im a Miami fan. I fucking hate Clemson and Trevor but the dude is legit.[/quote]

Didn’t win the National championship and was outplayed by Burrow. That’s what I meant by slightly. Don’t get me wrong, I love Lawrence. Wanted him after his Freshman year.

PorkSkins 10-20-2020 01:48 PM

Re: What do you want to see in our next QB?
 
[quote=punch it in;1262964]That would be a mistake.[/quote]

I don't think it would. I'm not exactly sold on Fields being in the top 3 of collegiate QBs. Nor am I sold on Ohio State QBs.

Defensewins 10-20-2020 02:23 PM

Re: What do you want to see in our next QB?
 
[quote=Chico23231;1262981]You think he is a better prospect than Burrow and Tua?[/quote]

Yes.
6' 6" 220 pounds
In just 2 1/4 seasons he has 81 TD's, 13 interceptions and 8,489 passing yards.
794 yards rushing and 14 rushing TD's
When you watch Lawrence in games (not highlights) he jumps off the screen. He is the complete deal and is very poised. True freshman National Champion. He has stuck around and gained the experience. His accuracy is very good.
Having given it more thought, I would be fine with losing the rest of the games to get him. The problem is other teams doing the same thing.

BaltimoreSkins 10-20-2020 02:35 PM

Re: What do you want to see in our next QB?
 
[quote=SunnySide;1262978]If we win some games and dont fall in love with a Qb available at picks 5 to 10 (or wherever we pick) ... I am 100% down with going with a vet. Ideally, you draft your young stud QB and he becomes your Manning or Brady or Rodgers or Rivers or Wilson or even a Matthew Stafford ... but if you arent in a position to take a Trevor Lawrence, why not do what the Colts did and sign a vet like Philip Rivers.

This team is close to winning imo. The DL is a great core that gives us a window from 2021 to 2025. We intentionally didnt spend in FA this year.

Cap next year is expected to SHRINK to 175M ... that means teams like New Orleans who would be 70M over the cap already may cut Brees.

2021 free agency is going to be the strangest year ever imo. Teams may be cutting some real studs.

LT Ronnie Stanley
QB - Brees or Ryan or some other vet option may be there
LB
CB1
FS
G

------------------------------------

We can become competitive over night in the offseason. We are well positioned and loaded with resources.[/quote]

I like the idea of pieces in place before drafting a QB. Did that for Robert's rookie year. Stanley is a stud but that is a lot of dough he will command. If we are sitting at 2 or 3 a lot of people seem to be high on Sewell out of Oregon.

Chico23231 10-20-2020 02:54 PM

Re: What do you want to see in our next QB?
 
[quote=Defensewins;1263013]Yes.
6' 6" 220 pounds
In just 2 1/4 seasons he has 81 TD's, 13 interceptions and 8,489 passing yards.
794 yards rushing and 14 rushing TD's
When you watch Lawrence in games (not highlights) he jumps off the screen. He is the complete deal and is very poised. True freshman National Champion. He has stuck around and gained the experience. His accuracy is very good.
Having given it more thought, I would be fine with losing the rest of the games to get him. The problem is other teams doing the same thing.[/quote]

If the front office believes the same, we should be extremely aggressive

skinsfaninok 10-20-2020 03:11 PM

Re: What do you want to see in our next QB?
 
[quote=Chico23231;1263018]If the front office believes the same, we should be extremely aggressive[/quote]

6'6 is nice and all but that doesn't mean he will be great, what makes him great is his accuracy and timing. Also he is a Mahomes like off platform thrower and can extend any play. The issue is the JETS are clearly tanking for him and they will go 0-16 if they have to

punch it in 10-20-2020 03:46 PM

Re: What do you want to see in our next QB?
 
[QUOTE=PorkSkins;1263008]I don't think it would. I'm not exactly sold on Fields being in the top 3 of collegiate QBs. Nor am I sold on Ohio State QBs.[/QUOTE]



My bad I thought you were flipping Fields and Lawrence. Totally misread it.


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