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[quote=Schneed10;1225021]I'm a republican who hates Trump so much that I just want to like a couple of the dems running. But they make it so hard.[/quote]

I hear you. 2016 could have been the only time in my life I could have voted for a Democrat for president, but to me Hillary Clinton is even more vial and disgusting as Donald Trump. I even researched the 3rd party candidates, but they all seemed nuts. I ended up writing in Will Seemore. I always vote even if it is a special election for head dog catcher. The small precinct where I vote only has one ballot counting machine and it wasn't configured to take write in candidates. My vote caused the line to turn in the ballots to be shut down for about an hour until someone came in to reconfigure the machine. I won't vote for Trump in 2020, and Bernie is too much of a socialist, can't stand Biden. I think I will be voting for Will Seemore again.

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[quote=MTK;1225022]The field will quickly whittle down. The major players are Biden, Harris, Warren and Sanders. I don’t see anyone else as serious contenders.


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Yup , reminds me of 2016 and the republicans. Still wish John Kasich had won,people [B][B]"republicans"[/B][/B] didn't do their homework and let him go by and elected an asswipe like trump.

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1225046]Yup , reminds me of 2016 and the republicans. Still wish John Kasich had won,people [B][B]"republicans"[/B][/B] didn't do their homework and let him go by and elected an asswipe like trump.[/QUOTE]I would have voted Kasich in a heartbeat in 2016 and i think a lot of other Trump voters would have also. It was the Bush side of the party that screwed Kasich like Hillary screwed Bernie.

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Joe Biden on CNN today:

Look at what’s happening with [Russian President Vladimir] Putin,” Biden told CNN’s Chris Cuomo. “While Putin is trying to undo our elections, he is undoing elections in Europe. Look what’s happened in Hungary. Look what’s happened in Poland. Look what’s happened in Moldova. [B]You think that would happen on my watch or Barack’s watch? You can’t answer that, but I promise you it wouldn’t have, and it didn’t.[/B]”


Dude, it was on your watch...r you fucking kidding?

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[url]https://www.newsweek.com/sanders-campaign-battles-staff-demanding-15-hourly-pay-which-candidate-says-should-federal-1450103[/url]

SANDERS CAMPAIGN BATTLES WITH STAFF DEMANDING $15 HOURLY PAY - WHICH CANDIDATE SAYS SHOULD BE FEDERAL MINIMUM


U can’t make this shit up...

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[quote=Chico23231;1225452][url]https://www.newsweek.com/sanders-campaign-battles-staff-demanding-15-hourly-pay-which-candidate-says-should-federal-1450103[/url]

SANDERS CAMPAIGN BATTLES WITH STAFF DEMANDING $15 HOURLY PAY - WHICH CANDIDATE SAYS SHOULD BE FEDERAL MINIMUM


U can’t make this shit up...[/quote]

Yet you do.

"The letter states that field organizers are working at least 60 hours a week, which lowers the average per hour pay to $13 an hour."

This clearly indicate the staffers in question are on salary not hourly staffers. Had they been being paid hourly working longer hours would mean OT and a different battle.


Chico , your bias is showing again.

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[quote=Giantone;1225455]Yet you do.

"The letter states that field organizers are working at least 60 hours a week, which lowers the average per hour pay to $13 an hour."

This clearly indicate the staffers in question are on salary not hourly staffers. Had they been being paid hourly working longer hours would mean OT and a different battle.


Chico , your bias is showing again.[/quote]

[url]https://splinternews.com/bernie-sanders-staff-union-demands-better-working-condi-1836513077[/url]

this quotes the WaPo article for you so maybe this helps. The man who says 15 is a right....

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[quote=Chico23231;1225456][url]https://splinternews.com/bernie-sanders-staff-union-demands-better-working-condi-1836513077[/url]

this quotes the WaPo article for you so maybe this helps. The man who says 15 is a right....[/quote]

chico,you never learn..........


"Field organizers, who are on the front lines of the campaign’s crucial voter contact efforts, were to be paid not by hours worked but via an annual salary set at $36,000. Regional field directors were to be paid $48,000 annually, and statewide department directors were allocated $90,000 per year."


.......still not the fight you claimed it was.Not a min wage job .Nice try.

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-1 for Bernie. But Chico, I think your bias is showing. There are tons, tons of jobs out there that pay salary to people to save money by not paying them hourly. My last dealership job, averaged 56/hrs a week and I was salary + commission. (And just so you guys know the reality of the parts counterman/dealership gig, that commission rate started at 1/2 of 1% and was bumped to 3/4 of 1% after working counter for 3 years. They like 'em young and cheap).

The managers at the Target I used to work at were on salary, and they also worked a ton of OT. Teachers are another example of working on salary. Guess how many hours they put in?

It's -1 to Bernie because he's using a commonly exploited loophole to pay his staff less when he's fighting for $15 nationwide.

But your bias is showing because if Trump was doing the same thing you'd praise him for exploiting loopholes in the same way he does to save on his taxes.

Let me pick an example off the top of my head. You want him to build the wall right? Keep all those illegal immigrants out? [URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/7-questions-about-trumps-use-of-undocumented-workers-at-his-golf-courses/2019/01/28/47de03ba-22ff-11e9-ad53-824486280311_story.html?utm_term=.ff3566a3946c"]Why did he keep illegal immigrants on his staff[/URL], cleaning his golf courses, until people started asking questions? You think he didn't know about those? The President that micromanages everything he can control? Don't plead ignorance Chico.

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[quote=mooby;1225470]-1 for Bernie. But Chico, I think your bias is showing. There are tons, tons of jobs out there that pay salary to people to save money by not paying them hourly. My last dealership job, averaged 56/hrs a week and I was salary + commission. (And just so you guys know the reality of the parts counterman/dealership gig, that commission rate started at 1/2 of 1% and was bumped to 3/4 of 1% after working counter for 3 years. They like 'em young and cheap).

The managers at the Target I used to work at were on salary, and they also worked a ton of OT. Teachers are another example of working on salary. Guess how many hours they put in?

It's -1 to Bernie because he's using a commonly exploited loophole to pay his staff less when he's fighting for $15 nationwide.

But your bias is showing because if Trump was doing the same thing you'd praise him for exploiting loopholes in the same way he does to save on his taxes.

Let me pick an example off the top of my head. You want him to build the wall right? Keep all those illegal immigrants out? [URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/7-questions-about-trumps-use-of-undocumented-workers-at-his-golf-courses/2019/01/28/47de03ba-22ff-11e9-ad53-824486280311_story.html?utm_term=.ff3566a3946c"]Why did he keep illegal immigrants on his staff[/URL], cleaning his golf courses, until people started asking questions? You think he didn't know about those? The President that micromanages everything he can control? Don't plead ignorance Chico.[/quote]

You're right. No excuse for Trump there. Or for Bernie. Way too much do as I say not what I do going on.

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Capitalism is the best option the world has ever seen. The only flaw is it's ran by humans. As a whole, our biggest flaw is greed.

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[url]https://laborunionreport.com/2019/07/23/exclusive-bernie-sanders-campaign-faces-charges-of-unfair-labor-practices/[/url]

“Bernie Sanders’ Campaign Faces Charges Of Unfair Labor Practices“

Oh Bernie say it ain’t so...call me a cynic, but doesn’t this seem like some old school, lee Atwater planted some moles in opposing campaigns type trick? I think Atwater did similar shit in opposing gop campaigns back in the 80s and 90s.

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[quote=Chico23231;1225566][url]https://laborunionreport.com/2019/07/23/exclusive-bernie-sanders-campaign-faces-charges-of-unfair-labor-practices/[/url]

“Bernie Sanders’ Campaign Faces Charges Of Unfair Labor Practices“

Oh Bernie say it ain’t so...call me a cynic, but doesn’t this seem like some old school, lee Atwater planted some moles in opposing campaigns type trick? I think Atwater did similar shit in opposing gop campaigns back in the 80s and 90s.[/quote]

Chico , I know you're bias but it seems you're gullible all so.:stop:

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[quote=Chico23231;1225566][url]https://laborunionreport.com/2019/07/23/exclusive-bernie-sanders-campaign-faces-charges-of-unfair-labor-practices/[/url]

“Bernie Sanders’ Campaign Faces Charges Of Unfair Labor Practices“

Oh Bernie say it ain’t so...call me a cynic, but doesn’t this seem like some old school, lee Atwater planted some moles in opposing campaigns type trick? I think Atwater did similar shit in opposing gop campaigns back in the 80s and 90s.[/quote]

GUILTY. The court of public opinion is adjourned.

I guess innocent until proven guilty only applies to Republican presidents and SC nominees.

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Per the article: "Sanders’ own statements to the press that “it was ‘really not acceptable’ and that it was ‘improper’ that ‘people are going out outside the process and going to the media"

Sanders frustration seems correct...why would ardent supporters go to the press knowing the outcome would do major damage to the campaign? Here we have it multiple times within a months time...its a bad look.

I guess I should take the tin foil hat off and go with my gut, Bernie is a moron and his supporters are lazy opportunists looking grab as much as they can. Y'all right...my bad.