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[quote=diehard;878241]You guys act like being an Hall of fame player automatically makes one a great coach.[/quote]

Yep, and it's often the great players that don't even make the best coaches.

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[quote=mooby;878245]I would say it probably wouldn't. HOF players have a unique blend of talent and smarts. You can teach smarts but you can't teach talent. They probably have a flawed perspective on what it takes to be successful because of their unique talent.

That's partly why I didn't want DG to come here and be secondary coach. He was blessed with unique talent, and I don't think he's qualified to coach at all. He would've had a better shot at becoming coach if he started the right way as a quality control guy then worked his way up the ranks.[/quote]

Green works from a higher power. He has leadership qualities too.

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[quote=diehard;878249]Green works from a higher power. He has leadership qualities too.[/quote]

That's great and all, but coaching is just as much about teaching as it is about leading.

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I remember him from Madden.

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As long as he is a good teacher

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[quote=diehard;878249]Green works from a higher power. He has leadership qualities too.[/quote]

Not to hear it from his former coaches and teammates.

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I always heard kind of a.....mixed bag about DG's personality. Some good....some not. But....all my info is 3rd, 4th, 5th hand at best.

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[quote=Mattyk;878246]Yep, and it's often the great players that don't even make the best coaches.[/quote]

In fact, many of the greatest players have turned out to be less than average as a coach...

Otto Graham
Norm Van Brocklin
Art Shell
Mike Singletary
Forrest Gregg
Bart Starr
Tom Fears

I believe all of them are in the HoF... and none of them had "anything near distinguished" coaching careers.

Yes, Mike Ditka was a great player and he had a good run with the Bears. His time with the Saints - - not so much.

Yes, Bud Grant was a good player and had a good time as coach in Minnesota.

Yes, Dick LeBeau was a hell of a player and is a damned good DC.

Mike Munchak's first year as a HC has been promising...

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;878275]In fact, many of the greatest players have turned out to be less than average as a coach...

Otto Graham
Norm Van Brocklin
Art Shell
Mike Singletary
Forrest Gregg
Bart Starr
Tom Fears

I believe all of them are in the HoF... and none of them had "anything near distinguished" coaching careers.

Yes, Mike Ditka was a great player and he had a good run with the Bears. His time with the Saints - - not so much.

Yes, Bud Grant was a good player and had a good time as coach in Minnesota.

Yes, Dick LeBeau was a hell of a player and is a damned good DC.

Mike Munchak's first year as a HC has been promising...[/quote]
How could you forget the immortal Seahawks QB....Jim Zorn? Stay medium my friend.

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[quote=mooby;878234]Tbh, out of our 3 NFCE rivals, I dislike the Giants the least. It's just easier to hate on them when they're in the SB for the 2nd time in 4 years, and people are talking about Eli as a potential HOFer if he wins his second ring.

.[/quote]

.......not by me,but one stat that I did think was intreresting was that of the last 6 or 7 super bowls, ...4 have been started by a Manning.

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[quote=Lotus;878230]Bring back Malcolm Kelly! Ike will make him an All-Pro![/quote]

To be an All Pro don't you have to actually be on the field and playing though? Oh... unless your refering to him being an All Pro Example as to what not to do then I guess you have a point.

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[quote=SmootSmack;878240]When was Rice ever a WR coach?[/quote]

Um never, which is my point. I didn't think McCardell would do all that well with whatever coaching he had prior to the Skins if any at all, I'm not holding my breath on Ike either. But one would have to think if any of them (players) had a chance it would be Rice over any of them because all he would have to do is run them through his work out routine which was supposed to be tough and made him and a few others who worked out with him better.

At least Rice stands out. As another poster said Ike really doesn't stand out.

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[quote=Hog1;878274]I always heard kind of a.....mixed bag about DG's personality. Some good....some not. But....all my info is 3rd, 4th, 5th hand at best.[/quote]

I don't know why people just want to knock DG. Yes he was self centered and he would only do interviews if he could announce his organization but people fail to remember he took smoot one summer and coached him and smoot was a beast after. He took bailey and did the same. So I have no doubts DG would be a great coach.

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[quote=SBXVII;878319]Um never, which is my point. I didn't think McCardell would do all that well with whatever coaching he had prior to the Skins if any at all, I'm not holding my breath on Ike either. But one would have to think if any of them (players) had a chance it would be Rice over any of them because all he would have to do is run them through his work out routine which was supposed to be tough and made him and a few others who worked out with him better.

At least Rice stands out. As another poster said Ike really doesn't stand out.[/quote]

So you choose Rice over Ike because of Rice's workout routine, and pretty much just want to cast aside Ike's coaching experience? I see

Incidentally, I didn't know this but apparently Ike was choice #2 behind Keenan a couple of years ago. Some say he was actually the first choice but turned down the offer

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[quote=SBXVII;878320]I don't know why people just want to knock DG. Yes he was self centered and he would only do interviews if he could announce his organization but people fail to remember he took smoot one summer and coached him and smoot was a beast after. He took bailey and did the same. So I have no doubts DG would be a great coach.[/quote]

If DG really wanted to be a coach, he would go about it the right way and work his way up through the ranks. Some doubt whether he would really be interested in the coaching grind, and if his ego would allow him to start at the bottom and work his way up.