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Ruhskins 08-26-2011 08:59 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)
 
[quote=NC_Skins;827714]See. That's my huge problem with Hall. He's always going for that splashy play (ESPN highlights) and it's cost us games and it's going to continue costing us games. I'd rather not have those ESPN highlights and have him play the position with some discipline. The guy has the talent, but it seems he's another Lavar Arrington at the CB spot. Now, I'm exaggerating there, but you should get the point. Play the position with discipline and lock your man down, even if it does mean not getting those splashy plays.


edit: Also to those Banks fan boys out there. I told you (as well as others) over and over again that he was replaceable and that showed last night with the KR game.[/quote]

Agreed. But you also have to realize that the DBs as a group need to communicate better period. This has been a huge issue for a couple of seasons, and having two starting safeties and your other starting DB out with injuries hasn't helped much this offseason. Hall should improve his coverage, but he's a risk taker and I don't see that changing. We can't have our DBs looking confused out there in coverage. Our zone coverage will be terrible if CBs and Safeties don't communicate better, and we're going to give up significant plays if this doesn't change.

Chico23231 08-26-2011 09:12 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)
 
I wonder if Wilson plays poor is D Hall will be blamed for that? Tried to tell people Carlos could be a huge loss...

skinsfan69 08-26-2011 09:15 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)
 
[quote=NC_Skins;827714]See. That's my huge problem with Hall. He's always going for that splashy play (ESPN highlights) and it's cost us games and it's going to continue costing us games. I'd rather not have those ESPN highlights and have him play the position with some discipline. The guy has the talent, but it seems he's another Lavar Arrington at the CB spot. Now, I'm exaggerating there, but you should get the point. Play the position with discipline and lock your man down, even if it does mean not getting those splashy plays.


edit: [B]Also to those Banks fan boys out there. I told you (as well as others) over and over again that he was replaceable and that showed last night with the KR game.[/quote][/B]

Austin and Armstrong are nice options but neither is as explosive as Banks.

skinsguy 08-26-2011 09:16 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)
 
[quote=Bucket;827683]One more thing I wanted to add was Penalties. We did a good job in the first 2 games with not doing dumb mistakes, but this game we cost ourselves basically 14 points because of penalties.

Both of the Ravens first half scoring drives were because of penalties that we had them stopped, and they ended up getting a first down. Score could of easily been 21-0 or more in the first half.[/quote]


I agree with you on the penalties. One of those penalties allowed the Ravens to continue a scoring drive, after we had them stopped deep in their own territory. Have to keep that stuff cleaned up.

I'm very concerned about Jenkins though. The defense really needs him in there!

NC_Skins 08-26-2011 09:31 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)
 
[quote=Ruhskins;827723]Agreed. But you also have to realize that the DBs as a group need to communicate better period. Our zone coverage will be terrible if CBs and Safeties don't communicate better, and we're going to give up significant plays if this doesn't change.[/quote]

This.

I don't want people to get the impression I think it's just D-Hall. It's not, it's all of them(safeties included). They all have looked terrible this pre-season, and probably my only complaint about the team so far.

NC_Skins 08-26-2011 09:33 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)
 
[quote=warriorzpath;827722]I guess you get an advanced copy of the roster list. So who was listed as starting qb cuz everyone's dying to know?[/quote]

According to my sources. Beck.


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mlmpetert 08-26-2011 09:41 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)
 
[quote=NC_Skins;827714]See. That's my huge problem with Hall. He's always going for that splashy play (ESPN highlights) and it's cost us games and it's going to continue costing us games. I'd rather not have those ESPN highlights and have him play the position with some discipline. The guy has the talent, but it seems he's another Lavar Arrington at the CB spot. Now, I'm exaggerating there, but you should get the point. Play the position with discipline and lock your man down, even if it does mean not getting those splashy plays.


edit: Also to those Banks fan boys out there. I told you (as well as others) over and over again that he was replaceable and that showed last night with the KR game.[/quote]

Yeah im with you on D Hall. Id rather him play safer and just get the type of picks Carlos would of had if he could catch. I wonder if Hasslet wants him to play like that though, i kind of get the feeling Hasslet does.

firstdown 08-26-2011 10:04 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)
 
[quote=SmootSmack;827684]Oh yeah. Great point. I completely forgot to add penalties[/quote]

Actually penalties have not been that bad the timing of the penalty was what hurt.

skinsfan69 08-26-2011 10:12 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)
 
[quote=NC_Skins;827714]See. That's my huge problem with Hall. He's always going for that splashy play (ESPN highlights) and it's cost us games and it's going to continue costing us games. I'd rather not have those ESPN highlights and have him play the position with some discipline. The guy has the talent, but it seems he's another Lavar Arrington at the CB spot. Now, I'm exaggerating there, but you should get the point. Play the position with discipline and lock your man down, even if it does mean not getting those splashy plays.


edit: Also to those Banks fan boys out there. I told you (as well as others) over and over again that he was replaceable and that showed last night with the KR game.[/quote]

Last night was a typical Hall performance. Makes a huge play and then gives it back. But that was a perfect pass by Flacco to Evans. Gotta give the Ravens some credit on that one.

htownskinfan 08-26-2011 10:20 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)
 
[quote=Kindoy;827690]Orakpo looks ready to go & Kerrigan looked good minus the penalties. I think our d-line will be solid come the start of the season as well as our defense in general. i am worried about that other corner spot like everyone else. OJ, Landry & Hall will be pretty damn good though.

Austin looked really good to me tonight, i think he deserves a roster spot. Hightower looked like a stud,[B] hopefully we keep Torain around because they can be an effective duo. [/B]I think having a tandem backfield can also keep some of the injuries away from torain. O-line looked ok, at times they looked very good like on a few of those stretches but at other times the protection was iffy at best. 1st O looked good against a pretty good D tonight.

As for Beck vs. Rexy... the jury is still out as far as i'm concerned. I'd let them both get a good amount of reps next week. Tonight really didn't help much, they both played well. They look equally good, neither have done anything drastic to win or lose the job. I honestly can't pick one over the other right now.[/quote]

Id rather see helu in that role,he looks great

freddyg12 08-26-2011 10:55 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)
 
[quote=skinsfan69;827796]Last night was a typical Hall performance. Makes a huge play and then gives it back. But that was a perfect pass by Flacco to Evans. Gotta give the Ravens some credit on that one.[/quote]

Actually, I think Hall was in pretty good shape on that play, he just mistimed it cause he didn't get his head around to the ball in time to find it. He was in position though, he just put his arms up in front of evans just a tad early before the ball got there.

If he's in position like that on most deep passes he'll make a play on the ball most of the time. It's much better than those times when he's beat deep by two steps plus and is practically out of the picture due to his cheating on the inside.

SmootSmack 08-26-2011 11:23 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)
 
[quote=skinsfan69;827713]1. I thought DHall could've made a play on the TD had he looked for the ball. But he made a great play on that TD. The secondary really needs #30.
[B]2. I offically have a man crush on Austin. Outside of Hightower has anyone stepped up more than this guy? [/B]
3. Bad deal on Jenkins cause he was having a great camp. That didn't look good. Any news on him?
4. Haslett called a nice game EXCEPT for the 3-14. Why isn't Rak getting after the passer there? ..Instead he's 20 yards downfield lost in space.
5. Both QB's played well but I'd give a slight edge to Grossman. REALLY nice drive at the end of the half. He can play in this offense. But Beck has surprised me. He looks like he belongs.[/quote]

I don't think I was ever more wrong about a new Redskins addition as I was about London Fletcher....until Austin.

I thought he was a waste of a pick and a huge project, until I saw him last summer and couldn't believe how polished a WR he already is.

freddyg12 08-26-2011 12:05 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)
 
Austin has got to make this team, no way he lasts on the PS. I think it's just a question of where he plays, who he takes off the field?

LandrySlice 08-26-2011 12:28 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)
 
Austin looks great, and that catch by Hankerson was pretty sweet, those guys might one day be the leading WR's on the team.......

freddyg12 08-26-2011 01:02 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)
 
[quote=LandrySlice;827886]Austin looks great, and that catch by Hankerson was pretty sweet, those guys might one day be the leading WR's on the team.......[/quote]

Austin is the future Moss, Hankerson is the future...50/50?


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