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[quote=irish;733200]I dont see The Bus as a HOFer.[/quote]:spank::spank::spank:

Saying that to a Steeler fan is like saying Darrell Green doesn't belong in there to a Redskin fan.

:soapbox:

Bettis was a dominate running back for many years. He was a star with a star team that ran to the playoffs many times on his back. He also got great press which helps just like it did with Rice over Monk.

Re: Preliminary Nominees for the HOF 2011
 

I think the Bus makes it, but maybe not first ballot. But then again the Hall voters do love them some Steelers so who knows.

Re: Preliminary Nominees for the HOF 2011
 

[quote=Leader In Sports;733034]OK, it is a long process but you can add more Redskins to the mix with Chris Hanburger:

[URL="http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/2010/9/13/2011-preliminary-nominees-alphabetical/"]Story » 2011 Preliminary Nominees - Alphabetical[/URL]

Dave Butz
Larry Centers
Gary Clark
Jack Kent Cooke
Henry Ellard
Ken Harvey
Joe Jacoby
Jim Lachey
Dexter Manley
Charles Mann
Brian Mitchell
Andre Reed *
Gerald Riggs
Reggie Roby
Deion Sanders
J.T. Smith
Doug Williams


I personally think Hanburger is a lock, and as a senior nominee it is pretty much a yes or no vote. On the others, they have to decide from all of the players listed. I personally think Butz, Jacoby, Manley and Mann should get in at some point, but I don't know if they make it the next couple of years because of all the other Redskins who recently got in.[/quote]


My list of top candidates: (no order)

Hanburger
Mann
Manley
Kent Cooke
Roby
Butz
Jacoby
Clark

Re: Preliminary Nominees for the HOF 2011
 

[quote=Mattyk;733208]I think the Bus makes it, but maybe not first ballot. But then again the Hall voters do love them some Steelers so who knows.[/quote]

Dont get me wrong, The Bus is a good player but when it comes to the HoF, he seems like more sizzle than steak.

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[quote=Leader In Sports;733206]:spank::spank::spank:

Saying that to a Steeler fan is like saying Darrell Green doesn't belong in there to a Redskin fan.

:soapbox:

Bettis was a dominate running back for many years. He was a star with a star team that ran to the playoffs many times on his back. He also got great press which helps just like it did with Rice over Monk.[/quote]

The Bus had his big rushing yd years early with Pgh. His last 4 years he didnt get 1000 in a season.

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[quote=irish;733303]Dont get me wrong, The Bus is a good player but when it comes to the HoF, he seems like more sizzle than steak.[/quote]

You think he ever gets in?

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umm..the Bus get's in. Hate sound corny, but he's just so likeable and represents the Hall well. I know it's ultimately aboubt he did on the field the counts, but people just love some Jerome Bettis.

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[quote=irish;733305]The Bus had his big rushing yd years early with Pgh. His last 4 years he didnt get 1000 in a season.[/quote]

OK, I can tell we need to go to war - how about Nerf balls at 20 paces?

Yes, Bettis did not have a 1,000 yard season in his last for year, but that was after he played 9 seasons in the NFL.

In his first 3 years with the Rams, he had 3,091 yards which gives him a 3 year average of over 1,000 yards per year. Then he goes to Pittsburgh where he is a work horse for a marquee team and in the next 10 years he has 10,571 yards which means for his entire career, [B]he averaged 1,051 yards per season for THIRTEEN YEARS AS A RUNNING BACK!!!![/B] If memory serves (and I don't feel like looking it up) he is in the top 6 of all time rushers.
:soapbox:

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Bettis is a lock for first-ballot HOF.

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[quote=Mattyk;733307]You think he ever gets in?[/quote]

I wouldnt vote for him but yes, I do think he will get in.

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[quote=Leader In Sports;733361]OK, I can tell we need to go to war - how about Nerf balls at 20 paces?

Yes, Bettis did not have a 1,000 yard season in his last for year, but that was after he played 9 seasons in the NFL.

In his first 3 years with the Rams, he had 3,091 yards which gives him a 3 year average of over 1,000 yards per year. Then he goes to Pittsburgh where he is a work horse for a marquee team and in the next 10 years he has 10,571 yards which means for his entire career, [B]he averaged 1,051 yards per season for THIRTEEN YEARS AS A RUNNING BACK!!!![/B] If memory serves (and I don't feel like looking it up) he is in the top 6 of all time rushers.
:soapbox:[/quote]

He had a nice career but I'm not sure its a HoF one. He racked up a bunch of yds early and thjen hung on the last 3 years.

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Not sure the bus is first ballot but I think he gets in at some point

Re: Preliminary Nominees for the HOF 2011
 

[quote=Leader In Sports;733361]OK, I can tell we need to go to war - how about Nerf balls at 20 paces?

Yes, Bettis did not have a 1,000 yard season in his last for year, but that was after he played 9 seasons in the NFL.

In his first 3 years with the Rams, he had 3,091 yards which gives him a 3 year average of over 1,000 yards per year. Then he goes to Pittsburgh where he is a work horse for a marquee team and in the next 10 years he has 10,571 yards which means for his entire career, [B]he averaged 1,051 yards per season for THIRTEEN YEARS AS A RUNNING BACK!!!![/B] If memory serves (and I don't feel like looking it up) he is in the top 6 of all time rushers.
:soapbox:[/quote]Bus has a solid argument for the HoF, I think it's almost impossible he's a first ballot. Look at the other RBs in this potential class: Marshall Faulk (1st Ballot lock IMO), Terrell Davis, Roger Craig, Eddie George, Gerald Riggs, Ottis Anderson, Herschel Walker.

Bus Pluses: 6 Pro Bowls, 2 All Pro, 5th in total Rushing Yards, 10th in Rushing TDs, 15K yds fm scrimmage, what you mention above, plus he's in the media and a good guy.

Bus Minuses: Yds per Att 3.9, SB stats 14 for 43 Yds 0 TD, fumble that almost cost the Steelers the 2005 SB berth, pedestrian last 4 years.

Terrell Davis: Avg 14TDs per year for his healthy years. 2 SB wins with good numbers, Yds per Att 4.6, 3 Pro Bowls, 3 All Pro.

Terrell Davis Minuses: Injury cut short his career.

Roger Craig Pluses: 4 Pro Bowls, 1 All-Pro, 3 SB wins with excellent numbers, Yds per Att 4.1, 13K yds fm scrimmage, one of first true run/receiving threats at RB.

Roger Craig Minuses: pedestrian last 4 years.

I put Craig in before Bus, TD was more dominant but his career was too short, there's a debate there. Bus goes in before the other RBs, but they're in the debate and that can hurt.

With 7 HoFers each year and assume Faulk, Deion Sanders (as much as I can't stand him), and possibly Willie Roaf are 1st ballot locks, Hanburger or another Senior goes in and that leaves three spots. Does Bus get in before: Roger Craig, JKC, Don Coryell, Richard Dent, Charles Haley, Lester Hayes, Shannon Sharpe, Tags?

He'll likely get in, just not right away.

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[quote=Mattyk;733208]I think the Bus makes it, but maybe not first ballot. But then again the Hall voters do love them some Steelers so who knows.[/quote]

If Bettis was in any other team, he wouldn't make it to the HOF, but he's a Steeler. Not taking away anything from his career, but the Steelers are the original bandwagon team and they are liked by many people. So I would agree that he gets in.

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Ray Guy over Reggie Roby? Who ya got? I dont ever see a punter making it but i do see Venetieri making it.

Ray Guys stats
Played in 207 consecutive games
Punted 1,049 times for 44,493 yards, averaging 42.4 yards per punt, with a 33.8 net yards average
Had 210 punts inside the 20 yard line (not counting his first 3 seasons, when the NFL did not keep track of this stat), with just 128 touchbacks
Led the NFL in punting three times
Had a streak of 619 consecutive punts before having one blocked
Has a record of 111 career punts in post season games
Had five punts of over 60 yards during the 1981 season
Never had a punt returned for a touchdown