[QUOTE=skins009]Brunnel threw for a whopping 58 yards. How the hell is he still our Quaterback.[/QUOTE]

No INT's. No sacks. No fumbles. Even if he did, Ramsey won't be ready for what we are about to encounter in the next five weeks. Bengals,Eagles,Steelers,Giants and the Eagles again. Now if you think Ramsey can play in this atmosphere with no sacks, fumbles or INT's your'e kidding yourself. Brunell will stay in just long enough to hand the ball off to Portis and not throw INT's. That's it.

[QUOTE=Daseal]Gmac, we're not disputing that fact. I think even if it's not successful you need to throw time to time. SOmeone would have been so open after playaction Brunell coulda gotten it to them. Also, the method of running was different at the end.[/QUOTE]


Oh I'm not trying to argue with the playcalling. I just wanted to post that somewhere and figured this would be the best spot. Coach Gibbs has lost all confidence in Brunell, at least thats what the playcalling will tell you. You could say its just sitting on the lead, but it was just hard to watch. Thank god we won.

[QUOTE=SUNRA]No INT's. No sacks. No fumbles. Even if he did, Ramsey won't be ready for what we are about to encounter in the next five weeks. Bengals,Eagles,Steelers,Giants and the Eagles again. Now if you think Ramsey can play in this atmosphere with no sacks, fumbles or INT's your'e kidding yourself. Brunell will stay in just long enough to hand the ball off to Portis and not throw INT's. That's it.[/QUOTE]


If all we do is hand the ball off to Portis the next 5 weeks, as good as he is, we will be at best 1-4 during that stretch, maybe beating the Bengals. We cant just settle for no mistakes and hand it off to Portis, he will be stopped because the defenses have nothing else to worry about. I'm not reay to concede the season just to keep Brunell in there. I'll take the risk that comes with playing Ramsey, if were going to have a threatening pass offense.

I dont know , i will say that our O-line does not always give Brunell enough time to get his passes off, but overall, he still has not been anywhere close to what he use to be. As for the 4th quarter playcalling, Brunell defied the odds by not having a fumble OR interception, so i can understand why we didnt pass ....

Heybigstar, I'm in full agreement. Our entire offense isnt doing exactly what they should, and Brunell is under pressure. ITS NOT ALL BRUNELLS FAULT, I'm not going to ever say it is. However, enough of it is his fault, in my opinon that he should be benched. He's just not good anymore, and is hurting the team. Its that simple, hes not good, and hes not what he used to be.

There is no defense for a NFL quarterback throwing for 58 yards when he has the kind of running support that Brunnel has. The fact that he has these miserable games every week doesn't help. Even Gibbs said that the bye week would help to bring out a new, improved, healthy Brunnel. We won't win many more games with Brunnel at the helm this season. We have to have a QB put up points (not the RB throwing the pass or the special teams or defense scoring for him). I liked Brunnel but he just doesn't seem to fit and he doesn't seem to be getting better as the year goes on.

:frusty: I know..... Next year Gibbs can recruit Trent Dilfer to run the "just don't give the game away" offensive strategy.

I disagree that the playcalling was bad down the stretch. When the D is playing as well as it was today, you want to leave the game in their hands.

Most everyone on this board thinks Brunell is horrible and has no confidence in him, does anyone really want the ball in his hands down the stretch?? I don't think so.

Run the ball, run time off the clock and leave it up to one of the best defenses in the league. Sounds boring but that's the formula for winning with the way this passing game is going.

I think the forum would have exploded had Brunell thrown an INT or fumbled late in the game. Then everyone would be wondering why we didn't keep pounding it out on the ground since the run was working so well.

As we've seen this year, too many things can go wrong when you pass. An INT, a fumble, turnover taken back for a score, etc. Why risk that??

The reason we ran so much is that Gibbs doesn't dare trust Brunell's passing any longer. And the only reason we were in the position of being able to run, run, run was the fact that we had the lead. Had we been behindf by 10 or 14 points, we would have lost because Gibbs would have had to have called some passing plays to get us back into the game.

What's so sad about all of this is that our inept offense is wasting the wonderful talents and efforts of our defense. The way our defense has played, we should be 6-2 or 7-1 or 8-0.

Gibbs' has to shoulder the lion's share of the blame for sticking with that loser Brunell through the first half of the season. He must be the only person left alive who thinks that continuing to start Brunell is the right choice. Then again, he is the only one who pursued and signed him, isn't he?

[QUOTE=SUNRA]No INT's. No sacks. No fumbles. Even if he did, Ramsey won't be ready for what we are about to encounter in the next five weeks. Bengals,Eagles,Steelers,Giants and the Eagles again. Now if you think Ramsey can play in this atmosphere with no sacks, fumbles or INT's your'e kidding yourself. Brunell will stay in just long enough to hand the ball off to Portis and not throw INT's. That's it.[/QUOTE]

Well if you think we can beat these team's without throwing the ball your kidding yourself, and I guarentee you Brunell will have some turnover's, he won't be able to sit back and let the special team's win these games, those defenses are to aggresive he will have to make play's to even keep us in the game, the way thing's have been going with Gibb's I wouldn't be surprised to see him put Ramsey into an immpossible situation to justify playing Brunell, it seemed to me he stacked the deck in Brunell's favor as far as matchup's in the pre season, he has a real H***ON for Brunell.

if last week was a step forward for brunell , then today was two steps back. he looked realy bad today.

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I disagree that the playcalling was bad down the stretch. When the D is playing as well as it was today, you want to leave the game in their hands.

Most everyone on this board thinks Brunell is horrible and has no confidence in him, does anyone really want the ball in his hands down the stretch?? I don't think so.

Run the ball, run time off the clock and leave it up to one of the best defenses in the league. Sounds boring but that's the formula for winning with the way this passing game is going.

I think the forum would have exploded had Brunell thrown an INT or fumbled late in the game. Then everyone would be wondering why we didn't keep pounding it out on the ground since the run was working so well.

As we've seen this year, too many things can go wrong when you pass. An INT, a fumble, turnover taken back for a score, etc. Why risk that??[/QUOTE]

I can understand running the ball, but the same play...run up the middle for minus yards.......Portis's total yardage was going in reverse. Perhaps short pass to the Tight End?? Let's keep the other team's defense honest, that's all I'm saying......

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I disagree that the playcalling was bad down the stretch. When the D is playing as well as it was today, you want to leave the game in their hands.

Most everyone on this board thinks Brunell is horrible and has no confidence in him, does anyone really want the ball in his hands down the stretch?? I don't think so.

Run the ball, run time off the clock and leave it up to one of the best defenses in the league. Sounds boring but that's the formula for winning with the way this passing game is going.

I think the forum would have exploded had Brunell thrown an INT or fumbled late in the game. Then everyone would be wondering why we didn't keep pounding it out on the ground since the run was working so well.

As we've seen this year, too many things can go wrong when you pass. An INT, a fumble, turnover taken back for a score, etc. Why risk that??[/QUOTE]

Good points. I think that part of successfully running the ball is that it allows for a play-action pass that would put the game out of reach. I think it's pretty apparent that Gibbs is not going to put Brunell in a position where he could influence the end of the game. He doesn't get any fumbles, INTs, or sacks because he's not in a position to get those.

Thing is I don't know that it would be any different with Ramsey at QB. He is, as Matty says, putting the game in the hands of Portis and the defense.

at least spread the field,put 4 wr out then run the ball up the middle, don't bunch everything up. portis needs a little space

[QUOTE=Gmanc711]We only had one drive over 45 yards... our touchdown drive was 7 plays 71 yards. Here are the plays we ran that drive....

Portis Run 21 yrds
Portis Run 21 Yrds again
Portis Run -1 Yrds
Portis Run 1 Yrds
Brunell Pass 8 yrds
Portis run 2 yrds
Portis Pass to Coles 15 yrds...

The Moral of the Story.... Portis Rules and Brunell does nothing.[/QUOTE]

The real deal is if there is no 100yd game from Portis, there's no win for that day. Now how do we mix up the playcalling to at least diguise the running plays? Double reverses? Draw plays?