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[quote=RMSkins;647502]Who exactly do you have playing o-line for us next year? I realize our line sucks, but you can't just get rid of all of our o-lineman. If we got rid of all of those guys the only o-lineman we have left are Dockery and Rinehart (assuming Samuels retires) so who exactly fills the other 7-8 spots? I know we're going to draft a few o-lineman and sign some FA's, but who says that they're going to work out?[/quote]

The only guy on our team that should be sniffing starting on opening day next year in Dock...and he's only average.

Samuels is done
Rabach is awful...AWFUL
Thomas is done
RT...we haven't had a decent RT since when? Maybe '06. Jansen was a shell for years.

Williams and Jones might be decent backups but ultimately if either is in the mix to start next year we're in trouble again.

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Carlos Rogers [COLOR="Red"]keep trade if possible[/COLOR]
Casey Rabach[COLOR="Red"]not sure, want him gone but could use him[/COLOR]
Byron Westbrook[COLOR="Red"]did they think his name would make him a good player? gone[/COLOR]
Rocky McIntosh[COLOR="Red"]must keep[/COLOR]
Todd Yoder[COLOR="Red"]keep if possible no big deal if we can't though[/COLOR]
Hunter Smith[COLOR="Red"]if someone better comes along get them, to injury prone[/COLOR]
Randy Thomas [COLOR="Red"]retire[/COLOR]
Stephon Heyer[COLOR="Red"]i hear safeway is hiring baggers[/COLOR]
Lorenzo Alexander[COLOR="Red"]keeper, looking great on special teams[/COLOR]
Phillip Daniels[COLOR="Red"]should retire if not cut him[/COLOR]
Kedric Golston[COLOR="Red"]keep[/COLOR]
Anthony Montgomery[COLOR="Red"]gone[/COLOR]
Renaldo Wynn[COLOR="Red"]seriously, love you naldo but hang em up already[/COLOR]
Will Montgomery[COLOR="Red"]gone[/COLOR]
Chris Wilson[COLOR="Red"]could care less either way doesn't really hurt or help us [/COLOR]
Reed Doughty[COLOR="Red"]keep, solid player[/COLOR]
Matt Sinclair[COLOR="Red"]gone[/COLOR]
Richard Bartel[COLOR="Red"]pack your bags[/COLOR]
Marcus Mason?[COLOR="Red"]it's been real marcus but your gone[/COLOR]
Quinton Ganther?[COLOR="Red"]keep, showing lots of positives and few negatives so far[/COLOR]
Levi Jones?[COLOR="Red"]keep[/COLOR]
Mike Williams?[COLOR="Red"]make that call after the offseason[/COLOR]

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These are the only guys worth keeping from the list.

Carlos Rogers
Rocky McIntosh
Hunter Smith
Lorenzo Alexander
Kedric Golston
Anthony Montgomery
Chris Wilson
Reed Doughty
Marcus Mason
Levi Jones
Mike Williams

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[B]Carlos Rogers - RFA, Keep (try to trade him)[/B]
Casey Rabach - Gone
Byron Westbrook - Gone
[B]Rocky McIntosh - Keep[/B]
Todd Yoder - Gone
[B]Hunter Smith - Keep[/B]
Randy Thomas - Gone, Retire
[B]Stephon Heyer - Keep, backup depth[/B]
[B]Lorenzo Alexander - Keep[/B]
Phillip Daniels - Gone
[B]Kedric Golston - Keep[/B]
[B]Anthony Montgomery - Keep (look to trade him)[/B]
Renaldo Wynn - Gone, Retire
Will Montgomery - Gone, thankfully
[B]Chris Wilson - Keep[/B]
[B]Reed Doughty - Keep[/B]
Matt Sinclair - meh, Gone
Richard Bartel - meh, Gone
Marcus Mason - Gone
[B]Quinton Ganther - Keep[/B]
Levi Jones - Gone
Mike Williams - Gone

I believe, (looking at the Texans since Kyle Shanahan will be our OC and Alex Gibbs may be our OL coach) that the OL will be completely overhauled with more athletic, quicker lineman. Probably none over 315. We will likely run a true Zone Blocking scheme with a lot of cutting by the OL.

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[quote=FRPLG;647506]The only guy on our team that should be sniffing starting on opening day next year in Dock...and he's only average.

Samuels is done
Rabach is awful...AWFUL
Thomas is done
RT...we haven't had a decent RT since when? Maybe '06. Jansen was a shell for years.

Williams and Jones might be decent backups but ultimately if either is in the mix to start next year we're in trouble again.[/quote]
I agree with you, but the reality is we need 9-10 o-lineman on the opening day roster. Dockery and Rinehart fill two spots. I can't see us bringing in more than 4-5 lineman through the draft/fa and assuming they all make the team brings us to 6-7 spots. Who fills the other 2-3? We're going to need to keep at least 2-3 of our current o-lineman not named Dockery and Rinehart.

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Carlos Rogers-[B]Tender and trade[/B]
Casey Rabach-[B]Yes[/B]
Byron Westbrook-[B]Yes[/B]
Rocky McIntosh-[B]Yes[/B]
Todd Yoder-[B]No[/B]
Hunter Smith-[B]Yes, but I don't think he's a free agent[/B]
Randy Thomas-[B]No[/B]
Stephon Heyer-[B]No[/B]
Lorenzo Alexander-[B]Yes[/B]
Phillip Daniels-[B]No[/B]
Kedric Golston-[B]Yes[/B]
Anthony Montgomery-[B]No[/B]
Renaldo Wynn-[B]No[/B]
Will Montgomery-[B]No[/B]
Chris Wilson-[B]Yes[/B]
Reed Doughty-[B]No[/B]
Matt Sinclair-[B]No[/B]
Richard Bartel-[B]No[/B]
Marcus Mason-[B]No[/B]
Quinton Ganther-[B]Yes[/B]
Levi Jones-[B]Yes as a backup or at RT[/B]
Mike Williams-[B]Yes as a backup G[/B]

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Carlos Rogers: Tender at 1st round; Decide what defensive system we are going to play - keep or trade based on that.

Casey Rabach - Bye
Byron Westbrook - Bye
Rocky McIntosh - Tender at 2nd round. Keep
Todd Yoder - Not necessary, but if we are going to keep 3 TE's fine. Again, let's get a decision on what kind of offense we are going to run.
Hunter Smith - Keep, he's the best offensive weapon we've got.
Randy Thomas - Bye
Stephon Heyer - Bye
Lorenzo Alexander - Keep. (Can we get a team of Lorenzo's?)
Phillip Daniels - Bye
Kedric Golston - Keep (See Lorenzo comment)
Anthony Montgomery - Bye
Renaldo Wynn - Bye
Will Montgomery - Bye
Chris Wilson - Keep; play at SLB, move Rak to the line full time
Reed Doughty - Keep
Matt Sinclair - Bye
Richard Bartel - Bye (who?)
Marcus Mason - Bye
Quinton Ganthel - Keep at minimal price
Levi Jones - Keep
Mike Williams - Bye

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Keep:
McIntosh
Hunter smith
Levi Jones
one or two of the 3 DT's probably lorenzo, then I don't care about the other 2

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;647526][B]Carlos Rogers - RFA, Keep (try to trade him)[/B]
Casey Rabach - Gone
Byron Westbrook - Gone
[B]Rocky McIntosh - Keep[/B]
Todd Yoder - Gone
[B]Hunter Smith - Keep[/B]
Randy Thomas - Gone, Retire
[B]Stephon Heyer - Keep, backup depth[/B]
[B]Lorenzo Alexander - Keep[/B]
Phillip Daniels - Gone
[B]Kedric Golston - Keep[/B]
[B]Anthony Montgomery - Keep (look to trade him)[/B]
Renaldo Wynn - Gone, Retire
Will Montgomery - Gone, thankfully
[B]Chris Wilson - Keep[/B]
[B]Reed Doughty - Keep[/B]
Matt Sinclair - meh, Gone
Richard Bartel - meh, Gone
Marcus Mason - Gone
[B]Quinton Ganther - Keep[/B]
Levi Jones - Gone
Mike Williams - Gone
.[/quote]

I agree with most of this; although I would like to try retain Levi Jones as RT, but not guaranteed starter though.. Have a rookie and Jones (and FA?) compete for #1 spot.. And that is if Jones accepts the role..


[quote=JoeRedskin;647562]Carlos Rogers: Tender at 1st round; Decide what defensive system we are going to play - keep or trade based on that.[/quote]

I actually like this idea; we could use the pick to draft new CB or FS if there is good one available?

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[quote=SmootSmack;647451]Carlos Rogers Keep (try to trade him)
Casey Rabach Gone
Byron Westbrook Gone
Rocky McIntosh Keep (try to trade him)
Todd Yoder Gone
Hunter Smith Keep
Randy Thomas Gone
Stephon Heyer Gone
Lorenzo Alexander Keep
Phillip Daniels Gone
Kedric Golston Keep
Anthony Montgomery Keep (look to trade him)
Renaldo Wynn Gone
Will Montgomery Gone
Chris Wilson Keep
Reed Doughty Keep
Matt Sinclair Gone
Richard Bartel Gone
Marcus Mason? Keep Q or Mason
Quinton Ganther? Keep Q or Mason
Levi Jones? Keep
Mike Williams? Keep

I think Albright might also be a free agent, keep him for another year[/quote]

I don't feel like typing all those names but I'll concur with your list. Ethan Albright has been negotiating his one year deals for the longest. If he's still wanted look for him to return.

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They all suck!! Except rocky

Re: Redskins Free Agents not named Jason Discussion
 

[quote=JoeRedskin;647562]Carlos Rogers: Tender at 1st round; Decide what defensive system we are going to play - keep or trade based on that.

Casey Rabach - Bye
Byron Westbrook - Bye
Rocky McIntosh - Tender at 2nd round. Keep
Todd Yoder - Not necessary, but if we are going to keep 3 TE's fine. Again, let's get a decision on what kind of offense we are going to run.
Hunter Smith - Keep, he's the best offensive weapon we've got.
Randy Thomas - Bye
Stephon Heyer - Bye
Lorenzo Alexander - Keep. (Can we get a team of Lorenzo's?)
Phillip Daniels - Bye
Kedric Golston - Keep (See Lorenzo comment)
Anthony Montgomery - Bye
Renaldo Wynn - Bye
Will Montgomery - Bye
Chris Wilson - Keep; play at SLB, move Rak to the line full time
Reed Doughty - Keep
Matt Sinclair - Bye
Richard Bartel - Bye (who?)
Marcus Mason - Bye
Quinton Ganthel - Keep at minimal price
Levi Jones - Keep
Mike Williams - Bye[/quote]
Nobody is going to give us a 1st rounder for Carlos Rogers.

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Pretty sure we can trade him for less than a first round regardless of our tender offer to him.

More than likely no one gives a first for him. Probably be lucky to get a 2nd. No harm in asking though.

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Carlos Rogers [B]Keep[/B]
Casey Rabach [B]Leaves[/B]
Rocky McIntosh [B]Keep[/B]
Todd Yoder [B]Leaves[/B]
Hunter Smith [B]Keep[/B]
Randy Thomas [B]Keep[/B]
Stephon Heyer [B]Keep[/B]
Lorenzo Alexander [B]Keep[/B]
Phillip Daniels [B]Leaves[/B]
Kedric Golston [B]Leaves[/B]
Anthony Montgomery [B]Keep[/B]
Renaldo Wynn [B]Leaves[/B]
Will Montgomery [B]Leaves[/B]
Chris Wilson [B]Keep[/B]
Reed Doughty [B]Leaves[/B]
Matt Sinclair [B]Didn't know he was here[/B]
Richard Bartel [B]Leaves[/B]
Marcus Mason [B]Leaves[/B]
Quinton Ganther [B]Leaves[/B]
Levi Jones[B] Keep[/B]
Mike Williams [B]Leaves[/B]

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[quote=JoeRedskin;647598]Pretty sure we can trade him for less than a first round regardless of our tender offer to him.

More than likely no one gives a first for him. Probably be lucky to get a 2nd. No harm in asking though.[/quote]
Very true.