Re: I'm curious if they are trying to get COOLEY RE-SIGNED before camp?
 

[quote=dmek25;286433]while i think cooley is a fine tight end, no way we should break the bank for him.[/quote]Ideally, no, but he is very deserving of top TE money. This is a guy who's getting paid a 3rd round salary, has eastablished himself as at least a top 10 TE, more like top 5, and hasn't complained once about his money. This is the type of player who you pay to set a good example.

Plus he's vital to the success of the passing game.

Re: I'm curious if they are trying to get COOLEY RE-SIGNED before camp?
 

[QUOTE=skinsfan_nn;286529]I didn't here anyone say anything about superstar?
But not sure what games you've been to and EVER seen COOLEY as an AVERAGE TE. That's crazy. I go to all home games and have never seen him play AVERAGE EVER!
This guy is a PROVEN PREMIER TE in the league and a leader for the SKINS.[/QUOTE]

Sorry. I didn't realize "superstar" and "PROVEN PREMIER TE in the league" were mutually exclusive.

Re: I'm curious if they are trying to get COOLEY RE-SIGNED before camp?
 

I don't think he is Antonio Gates but he seems to do everything we ask of the guy. I think you are underestimating his value to the team. There are alot of faster, bigger, and more popular players but this guy fits our scheme tremendously.

My question to you is who can we get for equal or lesser value that will perform at equal or better level. I don't think we should start underpaying on our only consistent short pass/surehanded threat in an offense which is marred by the inability to throw deep.

I think the reality is we should do everything within reason to keep this guy if we can.

[quote=Beemnseven;286576]Sorry. I didn't realize "superstar" and "PROVEN PREMIER TE in the league" were mutually exclusive.[/quote]

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[quote=Beemnseven;286576]Sorry. I didn't realize "superstar" and "PROVEN PREMIER TE in the league" were mutually exclusive.[/quote]

This should I think sum it up in a simple fashion, from my stand point.
He is ranked 8th or BETTER IN ALL categories for TE in production in the entire NFL.
Stats on nfl.com
I think he is one of the best in the league at his position and has to be paid accordingly. If you let a guy like CC depart, you are going to have to pay BIG BUCKS to replace a player with his talent level.

Re: I'm curious if they are trying to get COOLEY RE-SIGNED before camp?
 

[QUOTE=arrington_QBkiller;286465]Cooley way 8th among TE in receptions, 7th in yards, and tied for 4th in TDs. I'd say he is going to want a big payday, but I don't think we will break the bank[/QUOTE]

Here are the stats for [URL="http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/playerstats.asp?id=5907&Submit=Go"]Daniel Graham[/URL], the highest paid TE in the league.

If Cooley is a priority, and I believe he should be, we need to treat him as such. He was our top receiver last year, and tied the team lead for receiving touchdowns. Among TEs on the team he had [B]eleven times[/B] more catches than all others combined.

Cooley blocks - well. He does everything he is asked to do. He is a free spirit on the team without being a disruption ([URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/06/AR2006010602033_pf.html"]to anyone but the cheerleaders[/URL]). Frankly, I think a lot of what we have done with the cap lately (the Brunell refinance which makes him a free agent next year, etc.) is to make sure we have a little cash next year for the Chris Cooleys of the team.

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First, I do want the Redskins to extend Cooley before he becomes a free agent. But I do believe Redskins fans as a whole have over rated Cooley. We all love him...he plays hard...he is the type of player we want on this team. But trust me the rest of the league is not sitting around counting the minutes until Chris Cooley becomes a free agent.

Re: I'm curious if they are trying to get COOLEY RE-SIGNED before camp?
 

[quote=BrudLee;286599]Here are the stats for [URL="http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/playerstats.asp?id=5907&Submit=Go"]Daniel Graham[/URL], the highest paid TE in the league.

If Cooley is a priority, and I believe he should be, we need to treat him as such. He was our top receiver last year, and tied the team lead for receiving touchdowns. Among TEs on the team he had [B]eleven times[/B] more catches than all others combined.

Cooley blocks - well. He does everything he is asked to do. He is a free spirit on the team without being a disruption ([URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/06/AR2006010602033_pf.html"]to anyone but the cheerleaders[/URL]). Frankly, I think a lot of what we have done with the cap lately (the Brunell refinance which makes him a free agent next year, etc.) is to make sure we have a little cash next year for the Chris Cooleys of the team.[/quote]
I agree 100%, This GUY DESERVES THE MONEY!

Man, he has got some cheerlearders run off..... Capn.:smashfrea

celt, it's the other way around........HE IS WAY UNDERRATED!
Remember how many 56 jerseys you USED TO see. They are NOW 47, for a GREAT REASON, this guy is becoming the face of the team.

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[quote=celts32;286602]First, I do want the Redskins to extend Cooley before he becomes a free agent. But I do believe Redskins fans as a whole have over rated Cooley. We all love him...he plays hard...he is the type of player we want on this team. But trust me the rest of the league is not sitting around counting the minutes until Chris Cooley becomes a free agent.[/quote]

I think I heard that logic before. How did that work out between the Skins and Dockery?

The fact is that we have the cap room to re-sign him now and still do everything we want to in free agency and the draft. Canuck's cap sheets show us with 10 mil and the ability to free up 10 more. There is no reason to wait to get Cooley deal done. If they drag thier feet, and don't get a new deal done before the season, I expect Cooley will have no reason not to test the free agency market next year.

I hope they get the deal done in early april.

Re: I'm curious if they are trying to get COOLEY RE-SIGNED before camp?
 

I don't believe we should worry about signing Chris Cooley before training camp. Why? I can certainly understand wanting to open talks with him around mid season, but there is no sense in worrying about trying to sign him now. Like what someone else said, let him play out this contract first before putting more money on him. Now, he is definitely a valuable asset to this team and anyone who feels he isn't is smoking some major crack. He hasn't reached premier or superstar status as of yet, but he is definitely a guy you want on your team and I definitely want him back here for years to come.

Re: I'm curious if they are trying to get COOLEY RE-SIGNED before camp?
 

[QUOTE=GoSkins!;286608]I think I heard that logic before. How did that work out between the Skins and Dockery?

The fact is that we have the cap room to re-sign him now and still do everything we want to in free agency and the draft. Canuck's cap sheets show us with 10 mil and the ability to free up 10 more. There is no reason to wait to get Cooley deal done. If they drag thier feet, and don't get a new deal done before the season, I expect Cooley will have no reason not to test the free agency market next year.

I hope they get the deal done in early april.[/QUOTE]


Where did I say I didn't want to sign him? I want to sign him now...I just think we over rate him a bit and assume the league is licking it's chops to get him. I totally do not want Cooley to hit free agency...

Re: I'm curious if they are trying to get COOLEY RE-SIGNED before camp?
 

[quote=GoSkins!;286608]I think I heard that logic before. How did that work out between the Skins and Dockery?

The fact is that we have the cap room to re-sign him now and still do everything we want to in free agency and the draft. Canuck's cap sheets show us with 10 mil and the ability to free up 10 more. There is no reason to wait to get Cooley deal done. If they drag thier feet, and don't get a new deal done before the season, I expect Cooley will have no reason not to test the free agency market next year.

I hope they get the deal done in early april.[/quote]

Well put, GoSkins!

I don't think I'm understanding other's logic, when they state he's NOT PREMIER or OVER RATED A BIT?

This guy is TOP 8 statistically OR BETTER in ALL categories for TE in the ENTIRE NFL. What makes him overrated or not premier......????
His stats clearly speak for themselves. He's NOT overrated and he is a PREMIER TE in this league. A HUGE ASSET TO THE SKINS!

Re: I'm curious if they are trying to get COOLEY RE-SIGNED before camp?
 

I agree Cooley should be signed as soon as possible. He is the definition of a "Core Redskin" and deserves every bit of money that we give him.

Re: I'm curious if they are trying to get COOLEY RE-SIGNED before camp?
 

If Cooley has a monster year he will test the market next year. It is critical that this deal gets done ASAP. I couldn't stand seeing him in any other uniform. The guy has done alot and has won games for this team. If Gibbs lets him walk after the season i'll lose alot of respect for this organization. The team should do what the Bears players were doing for Lovie Smith..LOL. We'll just have to wait and see i suppose.

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Thats not how our front office works.They like to wait until the last minute.Then our players just test the market.I would not be surprised if we lose Cooley.I would be really really pissed,but they don't care what us as the fans think.

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[quote=Smurf85;286652]Thats not how our front office works.They like to wait until the last minute.Then our players just test the market.I would not be surprised if we lose Cooley.I would be really really pissed,but they don't care what us as the fans think.[/quote]

It does appear however from last year to this year the FO does seem to have a business plan and sticking to it. Which is GREAT to see.

Hopefully they are learning from all the mistakes of past. I would think CC is on the forefront of business as soon as we can finish a few more deals/FA.