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Re: Core group to be competitive-Worst case
[QUOTE=That Guy]white and cooley would both be negative cuts.[/QUOTE]
You're right, assuming that we're starting from a roster of 53 players. Which would mean we'd have to replace Cooley and White. But we're not, our roster is huge right now because of the chump FAs we signed in January, guys like Lumsden. They're already figured into the salary cap totals being reported by Clayton et al. It depends which cap number you're working from. Canuck's number nets out the guys on the roster beyond the first 53. So if you're working from that number and trying to get down to $95 million, you're right, you'd have to find replacements for Cooley and White, and include them in the Canuck number. That would make cutting Cooley and White pointless due to your replacement costs. But if you're starting from the Clayton number (which is a little higher than Canuck's) then the replacements are already on board. And I'm not totally sure, but I think NFL teams have to get their entire roster under the cap, not just the first 53 guys. Anyway, the point is pretty much moot. Cooley and White would stick around pretty much under any circumstances. They are two of the last guys the Skins would ever want to get rid of. |
Re: Core group to be competitive-Worst case
k, here's a list for anyone that wants to try it...
copy and paste it between [ code ] [ /code ] tags to keep the formatting. [CODE]2006 Salary - Release Fee = Savings. Total savings must be > $21million. [b]Player 2006 Salary Release Fee[/b] LaVar Arrington $12,046 $12,846 Chris Samuels $10,218 $9,932 Jon Jansen $5,603 $4,809 Shawn Springs $5,558 $6,833 Clinton Portis $5,476 $7,723 Mark Brunell $5,433 $5,733 Marcus Washington $5,167 $4,677 Randy Thomas $4,912 $5,648 Cornelius Griffin $4,883 $5,533 Sean Taylor $4,690 $8,380 Santana Moss $4,260 $9,400 Renaldo Wynn $3,453 $3,057 Patrick Ramsey $2,882 $1,194 Casey Rabach $3,145 $2,000 Walt Harris $2,750 $750 Brandon Noble $2,630 $930 Phillip Daniels $2,600 $1,800 David Patten $2,447 $1,800 Matt Bowen $2,400 $400 Carlos Rogers $2,297 $9,104 John Hall $1,820 $640 Jason Campbell $1,341 $4,122 James Thrash $1,125 $250 Cory Raymer $1,118 $133 Tom Tupa $939 $338 Pierson Prioleau $850 $300 Taylor Jacobs $841 $724 Joe Salave'a $837 $333 Ladell Betts $810 $265 Lemar Marshall $759 $363 Mike Sellers $595 $100 Derrick Dockery $581 $121 Chris Cooley $549 $328 Karon Riley $460 Ethan Albright $485 $25 Derrick Frost $460 Antonio Brown $460 Jimmy Farris $460 Manuel White Jr. $416 $319 Jim Molinaro $409 $24 Ryan Boschetti $385 Jashon Sykes $385 Kerry Carter $385 Ron Johnson $385 Curry Burns $385 Nehemiah Broughton $324 $28 James Bethea $310 Nic Clemons $310 Robert McCune $310 Robert Johnson $310 Christian Morton $310 Ikechuku Ndukwe $310 Dimitri Patterson $310 Ataveus Cash $310 LaShaun Ward $310 Richard Smith $310 Casey Bramlet $310 Jim Jones $310 Aki Jones $310 Sean Guthrie $235 Jonta Woodard $235 Tyler Jones $235 Aric Williams $235 Steven Harris $235 Jonathan Alston $235 Calen Powell $235 Jesse Lumsden $235 Jonathan Combs $235 Nick McNeil $235 [/CODE] bleh, i'll calculate savings and repost in a second to save other people trying this time. |
Re: Core group to be competitive-Worst case
[QUOTE=Schneed10]You're right, assuming that we're starting from a roster of 53 players. Which would mean we'd have to replace Cooley and White. But we're not, our roster is huge right now because of the chump FAs we signed in January, guys like Lumsden. They're already figured into the salary cap totals being reported by Clayton et al.[/QUOTE]
it makes sense either way. you either cut cooley who costs 200k or you dump an extra rookie making at LEAST 235k to clear the extra space. the rookie nets you 35k or more extra space than cooley, so it'd still be a negative cut. |
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I don't like that LaVar makes the most money on our team. His value is way off base.
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Re: Core group to be competitive-Worst case
k, here's the new improved list. anyone whose release results in under 235k savings is untouchable, since it'd cost more to get to X number of warm bodies without them on the roster. I believe you only need 40 guys on the roster right now, but after everything is said and done (draft, FA, undrafted rookies), the skins need 53 guys total at a minimum of 235k each.
I think the practice squad doesn't count against the cap (it has set salaries) so 8 1st or 2nd year guys can still be stashed there if you feel like naming them, but it won't really help the cap problem (shoving 310k guys there instead of 235k guys saves a bit, but the downside is the 310k guys can't actually help your team from the PS) ;) [CODE] Total savings must be > $21million. Player 2006 Savings Walt Harris $2,000 Matt Bowen $2,000 Brandon Noble $1,700 Patrick Ramsey $1,688 John Hall $1,180 Casey Rabach $1,145 Cory Raymer $985 James Thrash $875 Phillip Daniels $800 Jon Jansen $794 David Patten $647 Tom Tupa $601 Pierson Prioleau $550 Ladell Betts $545 Joe Salave'a $504 Mike Sellers $495 Marcus Washington $490 Derrick Dockery $460 Karon Riley $460 (445) Ethan Albright $460 (445) Derrick Frost $460 (445) Antonio Brown $460 (445) Jimmy Farris $460 (445) Renaldo Wynn $396 Lemar Marshall $396 Jim Molinaro $385 Ryan Boschetti $385 Jashon Sykes $385 Kerry Carter $385 Ron Johnson $385 Curry Burns $385 James Bethea $310 Nic Clemons $310 Robert McCune $310 Robert Johnson $310 Christian Morton $310 Ikechuku Ndukwe $310 Dimitri Patterson $310 Ataveus Cash $310 LaShaun Ward $310 Richard Smith $310 Casey Bramlet $310 Jim Jones $310 Aki Jones $310 Nehemiah Broughton $296 Chris Samuels $286 Sean Guthrie $235 Jonta Woodard $235 Tyler Jones $235 Aric Williams $235 Steven Harris $235 Jonathan Alston $235 Calen Powell $235 Jesse Lumsden $235 Jonathan Combs $235 Nick McNeil $235 Untouchables: Chris Cooley $221 Taylor Jacobs $117 Manuel White Jr. $97 Mark Brunell $-300 Cornelius Griffin $-650 Randy Thomas $-736 LaVar Arrington $-840 Shawn Springs $-1,275 Clinton Portis $-2,247 Jason Campbell $-2,781 Sean Taylor $-3,690 Santana Moss $-5,140 Carlos Rogers $-6,807[/CODE] Info gathered from: [url="http://www.thewarpath.net/WarpathRedskinsCap.htm"]Salary cap numbers[/url] |
Re: Core group to be competitive-Worst case
Tomorrow is going to be really ugly
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Re: Core group to be competitive-Worst case
[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Tomorrow is going to be really ugly[/QUOTE]
Just stare at this and let your problems drift away... [img]http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/1515/wacky26ug2sr2ww.gif[/img] |
Re: Core group to be competitive-Worst case
This about sums up the CBA talks.
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Re: Core group to be competitive-Worst case
hey, here's a problem... there's 13 uncuttable players. releasing everyone (EVERYONE) saves about 29,823k. Signing 40 players to complete the roster at 235k each costs 9,400k.
29,823k - 9,400k = 20,423k total savings with [b]40[/b] 1st year rookies. Not to alarm anyone, but here's our cap situation: 2006 total cap cost (dead money + 2006 salaries) - $116,793k 2006 cap - $95,000k 116,793k - 95,000k = 21,793k. since we can save a maximum of 20.4mill and we need to cut 21.8mill, this is a fool's erand. with restructures it simply can't be done. 40 rookies and we'll still be 1.4mill in the hole... we're totally hosed. |
Re: Core group to be competitive-Worst case
[QUOTE=That Guy]hey, here's a problem... there's 13 uncuttable players. releasing everyone (EVERYONE) saves about 29,823k. Signing 40 players to complete the roster at 235k each costs 9,400k.
29,823k - 9,400k = 20,423k total savings with [b]40[/b] 1st year rookies. Not to alarm anyone, but here's our cap situation: 2006 total cap cost (dead money + 2006 salaries) - $116,793k 2006 cap - $95,000k 116,793k - 95,000k = 21,793k. since we can save a maximum of 20.4mill and we need to cut 21.8mill, this is a fool's erand. with restructures it simply can't be done.[/QUOTE] Yep. We're going to lose at least a couple very valuable Redskins in the next few days. Prepare yourselves to shed some tears. |
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