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BigHairedAristocrat 05-26-2012 02:20 AM

The cap may be 120mm but we've got an 18mm penalty... And the cap is projected to go down. The sky is not falling but were back to the days of "salary cap hell" year in and year out due to the penalties

GTripp0012 05-26-2012 02:36 AM

Re: Redskins 2012 Salary Cap Status
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;918764]The cap may be 120mm but we've got an 18mm penalty... And the cap is projected to go down. The sky is not falling but were back to the days of "salary cap hell" year in and year out due to the penalties[/quote]But getting $18 million artificially added to our cap in 2014 will keep this tight cap situation from becoming a tight cap cycle.

They are going to pour a lot of 2013 salary into 2014 and beyond to make ends meet, but probably not $18 million worth of salary. Probably closer to $10 million.

Schneed10 05-26-2012 09:46 AM

Re: Redskins 2012 Salary Cap Status
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;918764]The cap may be 120mm but we've got an 18mm penalty... And the cap is projected to go down. The sky is not falling but were back to the days of "salary cap hell" year in and year out due to the penalties[/quote]

As usual, you're just not listening when it comes to cap situations.

The Redskins' cap next year will be $102 million (assume $120M less the $18M penalty). We currently have $96M tied up in players for 2013, but hardly any of that money is guaranteed.

The following players could be restructured or cut to save approximately

- DeAngelo Hall - Max Savings of $8.0M
- Chris Cooley - Max Savings of $4.0M
- Josh Wilson - Max Savings of $3.9M
- Santana Moss - Max Savings of $4.2M
- Adam Carriker - Max Savings of $3.0M
- Brandon Meriweather - Max Savings of $2.5M

There's $25M in potential savings on that group of players. And what GTripp is saying, because in 2014 there is no more $18M penalty, if they want to the Redskins could restructure all of these guys instead of cutting them. That would kick more of the cap hit into 2014, but an extra $18M in space makes that extremely affordable.

As usual, they will be in position to make whatever free agent moves they see as a priority. They will not be in position to buy every top free agent on the market, but that has not been their strategy under Shanahan and Allen, nor should it ever be. They will continue to build through the draft and sign only a handful of players. It's quite easy to see how their current track is 110% sustainable.

GTripp0012 05-26-2012 01:45 PM

Re: Redskins 2012 Salary Cap Status
 
[quote=Schneed10;918771]As usual, you're just not listening when it comes to cap situations.

The Redskins' cap next year will be $102 million (assume $120M less the $18M penalty). We currently have $96M tied up in players for 2013, but hardly any of that money is guaranteed.

The following players could be restructured or cut to save approximately

- DeAngelo Hall - Max Savings of $8.0M
- Chris Cooley - Max Savings of $4.0M
- Josh Wilson - Max Savings of $3.9M
- Santana Moss - Max Savings of $4.2M
- Adam Carriker - Max Savings of $3.0M
- Brandon Meriweather - Max Savings of $2.5M

There's $25M in potential savings on that group of players. And what GTripp is saying, because in 2014 there is no more $18M penalty, if they want to the Redskins could restructure all of these guys instead of cutting them. That would kick more of the cap hit into 2014, but an extra $18M in space makes that extremely affordable.

As usual, they will be in position to make whatever free agent moves they see as a priority. They will not be in position to buy every top free agent on the market, but that has not been their strategy under Shanahan and Allen, nor should it ever be. They will continue to build through the draft and sign only a handful of players. It's quite easy to see how their current track is 110% sustainable.[/quote]I will say this: if they choose to give new long term contracts to both Orakpo and Fred Davis next offseason, that's probably the limit in terms of cap flexibility for contracts in excess of $5 million annually.

But if they choose to extend Orakpo and Davis and just go out and make a flurry of one year signings for competition, it's likely that they've earned that course of action with strong play on the field in 2012.

los panda 05-28-2012 04:53 PM

Re: Redskins 2012 Salary Cap Status
 
any word on fred davis contract negotiations?

Schneed10 05-28-2012 06:09 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;918799]I will say this: if they choose to give new long term contracts to both Orakpo and Fred Davis next offseason, that's probably the limit in terms of cap flexibility for contracts in excess of $5 million annually.

But if they choose to extend Orakpo and Davis and just go out and make a flurry of one year signings for competition, it's likely that they've earned that course of action with strong play on the field in 2012.[/quote]

I don't think I agree with that, GTripp. There's so much more opportunity than that to clear space. Davis and Orakpo don't have to be the only significant moves.

los panda 08-24-2012 12:49 PM

Re: Redskins 2012 Salary Cap Status
 
are we really sitting at $4.5M in cap room?

los panda 09-08-2012 03:36 PM

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[quote=los panda;933255]are we really sitting at $4.5M in cap room?[/quote]cool

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/08/team-by-team-cap-space-as-of-september-7/]Team-by-team cap space as of September 7 | ProFootballTalk[/url]

CRedskinsRule 09-08-2012 04:22 PM

[QUOTE=los panda;937737]cool

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/08/team-by-team-cap-space-as-of-september-7/]Team-by-team cap space as of September 7 | ProFootballTalk[/url][/QUOTE]

How amazing is it that even after the cap penalty we are in better shape than the Giants.

Evilgrin 09-08-2012 05:50 PM

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Pretty funny how little some teams are now spending under the new CBA.

MTK 09-10-2012 09:37 AM

Re: Redskins 2012 Salary Cap Status
 
latest sheets are up, thanks CC

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/WarpathRedskinsCap.htm[/url]

T.O.Killa 10-03-2012 01:59 PM

Re: Redskins 2012 Salary Cap Status
 
[quote=Mattyk;939187]latest sheets are up, thanks CC

[URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/WarpathRedskinsCap.htm[/URL][/quote]
The way I read the cap sheets we did not use the 18 million dollar deduction this year. Does that mean we have to be 36 million under next year.

Monksdown 10-03-2012 02:02 PM

Re: Redskins 2012 Salary Cap Status
 
[quote=T.O.Killa;948569]The way I read the cap sheets we did not use the 18 million dollar deduction this year. Does that mean we have to be 36 million under next year.[/quote]

That wasnt an optional penalty for the first year. We could pay more than the 18 and thus incur less penalty next year.

T.O.Killa 10-03-2012 02:09 PM

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[quote=Monksdown;948571]That wasnt an optional penalty for the first year. We could pay more than the 18 and thus incur less penalty next year.[/quote]
Thats the way I understood it also. But the redskins look to be at 1 million under 120. I thought 120 was every ones cap

CrazyCanuck 10-03-2012 02:24 PM

Re: Redskins 2012 Salary Cap Status
 
[quote=T.O.Killa;948569]The way I read the cap sheets we did not use the 18 million dollar deduction this year. Does that mean we have to be 36 million under next year.[/quote]

My sheets include an $18M penalty. However we had $13M of unused cap space from last year which helps to offset.


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