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Kindoy 07-31-2010 12:26 AM

Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test
 
[quote=SirClintonPortis;715987]Shanahan's did not just make up these terms just to spite Haynesworth. Any player who missed 50% of the workouts would have to be subject to this test. The thing is, only Haynesworth missed more than 50% of the workouts.

Shanahan also didn't force Haynesworth to run it again after his bathroom break episode, Ray Wright gave Albert the option of waiting until the next morning on Thursday, but Haynesworth wanted to take it again on Thursday, which seems to me means that Al also just wants to get back to football as well.

So, I don't think Shanahan and Haynesworth are even in conflict with each other.[/quote]

I agree that they're not at a conflict and that this test wasn't created ONLY to spite Al, but i still think Shanny is trying to send a message with this test... and i think Al gets the picture. Bottom line, I just want Al on the field, i think it was John Clayton from ESPN who reported he was only off by 1 second so its not that he's not in shape... I just think that Shanny is being a little stubborn and isn't gonna let up til he does pass it. But i guess there's nothing wrong with that, i just wish this never got to being such a big deal...

Dirtbag59 07-31-2010 12:31 AM

Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test
 
Another great article by Ross Tucker on the specifics of team condition test.
[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/ross_tucker/07/30/haynesworth.conditioning/index.html#ixzz0vE9FF96]Albert Haynesworth, Terrence Cody bring conditioning to forefront - Ross Tucker - SI.com[/url]
[quote]
Albert Haynesworth failed a conditioning again on Friday. He won't be allowed to practice with the team until he passes.
AP

The NFL really is amazing. Seemingly without fail, every couple weeks a new incident crops up that opens the eyes of the fans to a facet of the NFL that they don't know very much about. I consider it my job, in part, to fill in the blanks when such a situation arises, and this has been the week of the conditioning test.

First, Ravens rookie nose tackle Terrence Cody failed his test. Then he passed it, supposedly, but more on that later. Later, veteran Redskins defensive lineman Albert Haynesworth failed his -- twice -- albeit amidst some controversy.


Read more: [url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/ross_tucker/07/30/haynesworth.conditioning/index.html#ixzz0vE9FF96t]Albert Haynesworth, Terrence Cody bring conditioning to forefront - Ross Tucker - SI.com[/url][/quote]

tryfuhl 07-31-2010 12:34 AM

Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test
 
[quote=over the mountain;715930]yeah i dont get how drafting clarett in the last pick of the 3rd round is a big knock on shanny. he took a chance on the guy who stock had dropped due to him being out of football for a year and some weight issues.
[/quote]
I'm with you man, there are plenty of guys in skill positions as well as blue collar positions that don't make it from the 3rd round.. we might have a few on the roster

3rd round is the 1st round to start taking real chances IMO.. if you can hold till the 4th great, but whatever

ethat001 07-31-2010 01:43 AM

Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test
 
[QUOTE]Video of a 300 yard shuttle (done in 60 seconds)
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRncMfIkcSU&feature=related]YouTube - Conditioning- 300 yd shuttle (25 yds x 12)[/url][/QUOTE]

Doesn't look that bad to me, the guy looks like he was jogging. I guess the hard part is the starting and stopping, so you have to do it with 25 yards x 6 round trips. The treadmill wouldn't be the same test.

[disclaimer: got this link from extremeskins]

Kindoy 07-31-2010 01:48 AM

Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test
 
[quote=ethat001;716062]Doesn't look that bad to me, the guy looks like he was jogging. I guess the hard part is the starting and stopping, so you have to do it with 25 yards x 6 round trips. The treadmill wouldn't be the same test.

[disclaimer: got this link from extremeskins][/quote]

we just don't know Al's time limit (or atleast i don't)

Dirtbag59 07-31-2010 01:56 AM

Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test
 
[quote=ethat001;716062]Doesn't look that bad to me, the guy looks like he was jogging. I guess the hard part is the starting and stopping, so you have to do it with 25 yards x 6 round trips. The treadmill wouldn't be the same test.

[disclaimer: got this link from extremeskins][/quote]

That doesn't look hard at all. An in shape athlete should be able to pass this no problem. Wonder if Haynesworth trainer was more focused on making his client look good on the beach rather then getting him ready to play football. Either way this seems like an equivalent of being able to run a mile in 10 minutes or less (7 minutes here lol).

[quote=Kindoy;716063]we just don't know Al's time limit (or atleast i don't)[/quote]

70 Seconds

[quote]ASHBURN - Early yesterday morning, the cones were lined up 25 yards apart on the field for Albert Haynesworth's conditioning test. He needed to complete the first part in 70 seconds or less to have a chance to pass.

[/quote]

Kindoy 07-31-2010 02:02 AM

Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;716064]That doesn't look hard at all. An in shape athlete should be able to pass this no problem. Wonder if Haynesworth trainer was more focused on making his client look good on the beach rather then getting him ready to play football. Either way this seems like an equivalent of being able to run a mile in 10 minutes or less (7 minutes here lol).



70 Seconds[/quote]

thanks. and just to play the devil's advocate here.. we don't REALLY know how far the cones were apart from eachother in that vid. but it should only take him like 4 seconds each way with about a second in between each sprint to change direction... and according to my calculations thats more or less give some take some roughly about 1 minute. so yeah... he shoulda been able to do it.... seems like some muscle went with those pounds

Dirtbag59 07-31-2010 02:03 AM

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This one has a two minute rest in between sets. Times of 55 seconds and 59 seconds.
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CRedskinsRule 07-31-2010 09:01 AM

So when is todays "ADVENTURES IN CONDITIONING" taking place?

CRedskinsRule 07-31-2010 09:11 AM

Just got my answer:
RT @Rich_Campbell I'm hearing that Albert Haynesworth did not run this morning. Apparently he's resting.

I think this is a good choice. After military PT tests there was a day to recuperate for your body, and in the football season, the day after the game is usually a recuperate type day.

Gmanc711 07-31-2010 10:46 AM

Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test
 
So I went up to the high school to try my crack at this.... and its quite harder than I thought. Just to put it in perspective, I'm about 5'9, 200 pounds, not out of shape, but rocking a little beer gut... and I ran a 1/2 marathon about 7 months ago, so I would consider myself somewhat conditioned I guess....

I did it once, 75 seconds, which was a fail. The hardest part to me was the changing of directions. I did it again running 3 100 yard sprints down the football feild, changing directions at the goal line and did it in under a min... so the change in direction added nearly 20 seconds on it for me.

Granted I'm not a pro athlete making 20 million dollars, but it was a little tough.

GTripp0012 07-31-2010 10:52 AM

Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;716080]Just got my answer:
RT @Rich_Campbell I'm hearing that Albert Haynesworth did not run this morning. Apparently he's resting.

I think this is a good choice. After military PT tests there was a day to recuperate for your body, and in the football season, the day after the game is usually a recuperate type day.[/quote]I'm skeptical on how much lactic acid/soreness a pair of 300 yd shuttles would actually create, but Albert probably has been doing additional work in the teams' facility during practice hours, so that would explain the additional fatigue.

30gut 07-31-2010 11:02 AM

Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test
 
The first shuttle run is the easy part its the second one after the short break that's taxing.
Its not [I]that[/I] hard to do but if you haven't done it before you'll make it harder on yourself because you'll go too fast or too slow in some portions you need a good steady pace.

-No worries Al will get it, i think Shanahan is effing with him a little.
I bet dollars to donuts that if all the DL & OL were doing it would under the same strict adherence to the time hacks as demanded by Shanahan Albert wouldn't be the only one person held out.

Correct me if i'm wrong but didn't Smoot, Davis, Thomas and Kelly all fail the conditioning test either last year or the year prior?

Player_HTTR 07-31-2010 11:03 AM

Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test
 
I don't remeber a day of rest after a PT test. And honestly a 3 mile run, 2 minutes of sit up, and pull-ups wasn't all that bad. The Air Force had it a little harder though with the stationary bike and all, they may have needed it.


Just joking, thanks to all for their service!

Lotus 07-31-2010 11:28 AM

Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;716080]Just got my answer:
RT @Rich_Campbell I'm hearing that Albert Haynesworth did not run this morning. Apparently he's resting.

I think this is a good choice. After military PT tests there was a day to recuperate for your body, and in the football season, the day after the game is usually a recuperate type day.[/quote]

I have a hard time believing that AH was "resting." My guess is that the proper verb is "refusing." If so, expect a trade or suspension soon.


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