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lol nobody was even considering AK as a viable starter anyway but now it’s a huge loss??

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If you’re going to have a weak link on your OL, LG is where you want it

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1194496]Somebody says exactly that every off-season. It's not you every time is it?

No, I don't think every issue can be solved every off-season but this particular problem has been present at least several years. Has fixing LG been last on the list for the last three years in a row? If so, please don't tell me because I still have fond memories of HOF'er Russ Grimm.

As for the President, he could at least get rid of that orange caterpillar on his head, couldn't he?[/QUOTE]Yes LG has been issue for us a while but what can we do when there are limited options out there? Yeah I know we could have drafted a LG in mid rounds but even drafting one does not guarantee that it will solve the issue. The way some of us have been acting, one would think it is easy to find a replacement that will transform our Oline issue.


As for the President, I was talking about presidents in general, not the current one.. At the rate we are going today, it's likely things will get worse and next new president will have to take on massive responsibility to fix things. Let's just leave it that way since this isn't the place to discuss about politics.

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We're in a better situation at QB and we've improved big time at RB. Unless we see something horrible in preseason or we get injuries left and right, I'm not going to lose any sleep over the LG position.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1194500]I disagree.

1) how do you have a 2nd year rookie?

2) Here is PFF's ranking in week 5 last year before the injuries:

Here is our ranking after the injuries:

(emphasis mine)

3) Roullier was mostly given him a middle of the pack grade as a rookie. He can definitely improve this year.[/quote]

1) second year player. Yeah so him and Spencer Long rated below avg grade from PFF in the red, but Im hoping he improves...

[url]https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol[/url]

So we ranked 27th and 28th in the middle, middle-left guard running the ball. Certainly that's a problem running the ball.

S.L. was the rated the second worst graded LG pass blocking (77). That's a problem.

So in conclusion, we got zero problems in the interior. got it.

Sky certainly not falling, but this injury today just takes a guy off the board that the coaching staff and FO (not me) put in position to make the most of his opportunity. Sucks

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Thats why i put the week 5 rankings. The line coming into the year was a top 10 line. By end of year we had lost our line's cohesion and all the results Chico listed prove it was a disaster. Fact is, if injuries pile up again the left guard is going to be the least of our worries.

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Arie Kouandjio, lol

This entire thing is hilarious.

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[quote=Schneed10;1194511]Arie Kouandjio, lol

This entire thing is hilarious.[/quote]

I think everyone should be happy, not that Kujo got hurt, but if you believed we needed to do something other than what they had, this injury will put more pressure on them to find a proper replacement.

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And it appears that Sean Welsh (UDFA) out of Iowa just decided to retire: [url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2018/5/11/17346456/udfa-g-c-sean-welsh-retires-leaves-redskins[/url]

Yeah, this guy who at least some folks thought might be a sleeper: [url]https://www.landof10.com/iowa/iowa-football-sean-welsh-nfl-draft-2018-washington-redskins[/url]

So neither AK or Welch were locks to start or even make the team, but seeing a depleted group of contenders for our weakest O-line position isn't great.

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[quote=calia;1194513]And it appears that Sean Welsh (UDFA) out of Iowa just decided to retire: [url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2018/5/11/17346456/udfa-g-c-sean-welsh-retires-leaves-redskins[/url]

Yeah, this guy who at least some folks thought might be a sleeper: [url]https://www.landof10.com/iowa/iowa-football-sean-welsh-nfl-draft-2018-washington-redskins[/url]

So neither AK or Welch were locks to start or even make the team, but seeing a depleted group of contenders for our weakest O-line position isn't great.[/quote]

The plan is coming together...:doh:

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[quote=calia;1194513][B]And it appears that Sean Welsh (UDFA) out of Iowa just decided to retire: [/B][url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2018/5/11/17346456/udfa-g-c-sean-welsh-retires-leaves-redskins[/url]

Yeah, this guy who at least some folks thought might be a sleeper: [url]https://www.landof10.com/iowa/iowa-football-sean-welsh-nfl-draft-2018-washington-redskins[/url]

So neither AK or Welch were locks to start or even make the team, but seeing a depleted group of contenders for our weakest O-line position isn't great.[/quote]

F that! I expected quite a lot out of him, at least [U]hope was allowed[/U] with him...
Gosh why does it always fall on us?! Cravens, now him? Talk about "[I][U]football players[/U][/I]" huh! (Ok Cravens was a 2nd round pick and he's an UDFA, but still, he was seen as a potential steal).

I was a fan of him already, promising guy overcoming depression and being open about it, would have been a great story...

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[quote=calia;1194513]And it appears that Sean Welsh (UDFA) out of Iowa just decided to retire: [url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2018/5/11/17346456/udfa-g-c-sean-welsh-retires-leaves-redskins[/url]

Yeah, this guy who at least some folks thought might be a sleeper: [url]https://www.landof10.com/iowa/iowa-football-sean-welsh-nfl-draft-2018-washington-redskins[/url]

So neither AK or Welch were locks to start or even make the team, but seeing a depleted group of contenders for our weakest O-line position isn't great.[/quote]

Pat Kirwan was really high on this kid. That's really a shame, hopefully he will have a good life, and not battle the demon of depression...

Skins likely will make some moves here.

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This was written before today's double whammy, but the general point is still valid:
[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2018/5/11/17343614/if-you-think-the-redskins-situation-at-left-guard-is-a-problem-think-again[/url]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1194517]This was written before today's double whammy, but the general point is still valid:
[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2018/5/11/17343614/if-you-think-the-redskins-situation-at-left-guard-is-a-problem-think-again[/url][/quote]

Good read.
Good points about having to deal with the salary cap, and not spending too much on certain positions, and LG not being the most important position on the O-line.

But he does seem to be wearing rose colored glasses when he says TJ Clemmings and Tyler Catalina could respectively "thrive" and "take a big step forward"... With all due respect to them, those guys simply aren't talented enough!

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The sky is indeed falling.

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Season over

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[quote=MTK;1194523]Season over[/quote]

Haha I hear you, of course it's only a back up and an UDFA.
But this happening on arguably our weakest position on offense, after a season during which injuries on the OL kept this team from performing to its full potential, makes me wanna see the FO be a little more pro-active in finding a solution at LG.

Now, [U]can we win games[/U] with Trent Williams, Lauvao(/Nsekhe), Roullier, Scherff and Moses up front? Absolutely, that is a [U]really good OL[/U].

I just feel we could easily do better at LG without breaking the bank.
And when you just signed a 34 years old QB, I don't think it is that bad of an idea to beef up your OL.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1194527]Haha I hear you, of course it's only a back up and an UDFA.
But this happening on arguably our weakest position on offense, after a season during which injuries on the OL kept this team from performing to its full potential, makes me wanna see the FO be a little more pro-active in finding a solution at LG.

Now, [U]can we win games[/U] with Trent Williams, Lauvao(/Nsekhe), Roullier, Scherff and Moses up front? Absolutely, that is a [U]really good OL[/U].

I just feel we could easily do better at LG without breaking the bank.
And when you just signed a 34 years old QB, I don't think it is that bad of an idea to beef up your OL.[/quote]

To put it into perspective a bit, we had one of the top O lines in the league last year (when healthy) with Lauvao as the starter at the beginning of the year.

I am way more concerned with having quality depth on the Oline than Lauvao as the starter at LG.

I would much rather them invest in a fast twitch edge rusher who can F with the QB, than spend money on LG.

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Ryan k 4th in league in sacks and Preston smith...Ryan Anderson and smart money spent on McPhee.

Payne will impact the rush inside and out.

Boxes checked with pass rush.

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You need JAG at LG, if healthy Lauvao can be that. What about Bergstrom?

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1194530]Ryan k 4th in league in sacks and Preston smith...Ryan Anderson and smart money spent on McPhee.

Payne will impact the rush inside and out.

Boxes checked with pass rush.[/QUOTE]I hope your right but I don't think any of those guys scare tackles.

None of them are fast twitch and instead rush successfully with sustained effort and strength.

I think Jonathan Allen has the most twitch of all our "rushers."

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[quote=Chico23231;1194530]Ryan k 4th in league in sacks and Preston smith...Ryan Anderson and smart money spent on McPhee.

Payne will impact the rush inside and out.

Boxes checked with pass rush.[/quote]

Which box does Ryan Anderson check off? The "No Production" box?

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This is why I wasn't that upset about losing KF. [IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180512/f03c70f79e1782d461b9565b35b28989.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1194533]Which box does Ryan Anderson check off? The "No Production" box?[/quote]

:laughing2

I’m not giving up on Anderson...let’s give him a second season. Think we will see much better play.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1194534]This is why I wasn't that upset about losing KF. [IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180512/f03c70f79e1782d461b9565b35b28989.jpg[/IMG]

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Torrian Gray is a fuckin beast folks. Been trying to tell people

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I just heard a comment on a redskins podcast that puts the whole left guard situation in perspective.

Atlanta was up 28-3 in the super bowl with Chris Chester (the dude we couldn't wait to get rid of) at guard.



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I checked and did not find anyone had posted this:
Arie Kouandjio will miss at least “several months” after an upcoming surgery to repair a partially torn quad, leaving the Washington Redskins somewhat thin up front heading into the summer.

News of Kouandjio’s injury broke recently, casting doubt on the future of the fourth-round pick from the 2015 draft. He had started six games a year ago and figured to compete for the starting job at left guard.

According to NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport, the minimum timetable is lengthy:

[URL="https://redskinswire.usatoday.com/2018/05/15/arie-kouandjio-undergo-surgery-partially-torn-quad/"]https://redskinswire.usatoday.com/2018/05/15/arie-kouandjio-undergo-surgery-partially-torn-quad/[/URL]

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Looks like old Brucie Boy might need to get the book Who Moved my Cheese...

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1194608]Looks like old Brucie Boy might need to get the book Who Moved my Cheese...[/QUOTE]


Maybe Snyder can give it to him as an early retirement present instead of a Rolex.

Here’s a link to the report to those who don’t know what you’re talking about:

[url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/05/16/washington-hires-new-coo-increasing-speculation-that-team-president-could-be-on-the-way-out/[/url]

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I am not sure if this means Bruce will no longer work with Redskins since Snyder mentioned that Bruce will continue to operate in his position. If the rumors are true then Snyder should not mention anything about Bruce in the announcement?

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[QUOTE=GridIron26;1194612]I am not sure if this means Bruce will no longer work with Redskins since Snyder mentioned that Bruce will continue to operate in his position. If the rumors are true then Snyder should not mention anything about Bruce in the announcement?[/QUOTE]


Snyder and Allen are close. This is just a dignified way to do things so it doesn’t look like Allen is being pushed out the door. Allen will be with the Raiders within a year. It’s just a matter of how long it will take for him to transition all the work associated with the new stadium over to lafemina

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Today Cooley and Kevin discussed LaFemina's nomination and its implications.

Cooley thinks it has nothing to do, one way nor the other, with Bruce Allen leaving or staying. He's even guessing Bruce hired Brian LF.

They think it means 2 things:

-Bruce Allen was in charge of picking a location for the new stadium, that choice has been made (probably will be announced in the summer), and now LaFemina is here to take care of this new stadium and its build up.

-Bruce Allen will now focus back to football operations (not that he wasn't implicated in them before).

That's quite exciting, isn't it?

I know Bruce doesn't get a lot of love (understandably), but I think continuity is a valuable asset, and this offseason he has done a solid job (AS trade, contracts negotiations, cap management...).

As for the new stadium, I've always understood nobody really likes FedEx Field so it has to feel like a good news.
Hope I'd get a chance to see a game there before the team changes stadium, so I can compare!

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1194620]Today Cooley and Kevin discussed LaFemina's nomination and its implications.

Cooley thinks it has nothing to do, one way nor the other, with Bruce Allen leaving or staying. He's even guessing Bruce hired Brian LF.

They think it means 2 things:

-Bruce Allen was in charge of picking a location for the new stadium, that choice has been made (probably will be announced in the summer), and now LaFemina is here to take care of this new stadium and its build up.

-Bruce Allen will now focus back to football operations (not that he wasn't implicated in them before).

That's quite exciting, isn't it?

I know Bruce doesn't get a lot of love (understandably), but I think continuity is a valuable asset, and this offseason he has done a solid job (AS trade, contracts negotiations, cap management...).

As for the new stadium, I've always understood nobody really likes FedEx Field so it has to feel like a good news.
Hope I'd get a chance to see a game there before the team changes stadium, so I can compare!

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So last week, amidst reports Allen was linked to the Raiders, the departure of Scott Campbell, and reports that Kyle Smiths stock was rising, Cooley said Bruce was likely on the way out.

Now someone has been hired who reports directly to Snyder and whose job title arguable is superior to Allen’s, and Cooley is saying “nothing to see here.”

Hmmmmm.

Also, Bruce focusing on football operations is not an “exciting” thing. We don’t want him anywhere near football operations. His strength is the non-football, business side of things. He’s regularly botched football stuff - like his handling of the McCloughan fiasco last year - which reportedly pissed off snyder. Interesting timing that the report said Snyder tried to get LaFemina last year. There is way too much smoke here to not have any fire.




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[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;1194623]So last week, amidst reports Allen was linked to the Raiders, the departure of Scott Campbell, and reports that Kyle Smiths stock was rising, Cooley said Bruce was likely on the way out.

Now someone has been hired who reports directly to Snyder and whose job title arguable is superior to Allen’s, and Cooley is saying “nothing to see here.”

Hmmmmm.

Also, Bruce focusing on football operations is not an “exciting” thing. We don’t want him anywhere near football operations. His strength is the non-football, business side of things. He’s regularly botched football stuff - like his handling of the McCloughan fiasco last year - which reportedly pissed off snyder. Interesting timing that the report said Snyder tried to get LaFemina last year. There is way too much smoke here to not have any fire.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]I don't remember Cooley saying Bruce was likely on his way out, he said the fact he denied it was not an indication one way or the other, that people would say that the day before they left.

I do agree it's quite a lot of smoke in the past few days though. And as Kevin Sheehan laid it out it seems like a lot of layers of upper management right now.
We'll see I guess.

For the exciting part, I was more thinking about the new stadium and continuity. If BA stays I don't see his role changing, he won't be more implicated in football operations than he already was.

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Allen has a home in LA. Plus now that Jon Gruden is in Oakland and soon to be Vegas, I think Allen will end up there. It makes total sense. All you have to do is put two and two together.

I doubt Allen hired this new guy, this was 100% Dan Snyder and the minority owners. He even mentioned that Snyder tried to hire him last year. They're probably tired of several things... constant bad PR, opposing fan takeovers at home games, declining ticket sales, Scot, Cousins, .. Fair or not that falls on Bruce.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1194628]Allen has a home in LA. Plus now that Jon Gruden is in Oakland and soon to be Vegas, I think Allen will end up there. It makes total sense. All you have to do is put two and two together.

[/quote]

Why would the Raiders hire another executive that brings nothing to the table?
The move to LV and the Stadium are already mapped out so they don't need a politician. McKenzie looks like a solid GM so I doubt they would let him go.

Maybe Jon owes BA a favor for hiring Jay, that's the only way he is hired.

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[QUOTE=jamf;1194635]Why would the Raiders hire another executive that brings nothing to the table?

The move to LV and the Stadium are already mapped out so they don't need a politician. McKenzie looks like a solid GM so I doubt they would let him go.



Maybe Jon owes BA a favor for hiring Jay, that's the only way he is hired.[/QUOTE]

The real Question is: If Allen “brings nothing to the table,” why is he still here?


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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1194628]Allen has a home in LA. Plus now that Jon Gruden is in Oakland and soon to be Vegas, I think Allen will end up there. It makes total sense. All you have to do is put two and two together.



I doubt Allen hired this new guy, this was 100% Dan Snyder and the minority owners. He even mentioned that Snyder tried to hire him last year. They're probably tired of several things... constant bad PR, opposing fan takeovers at home games, declining ticket sales, Scot, Cousins, .. Fair or not that falls on Bruce.[/QUOTE]



Cooley doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Allen definitely didn’t hire him. This is evidenced by the fact that he reports to Snyder, not Bruce.


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[quote=jamf;1194635]Why would the Raiders hire another executive that brings nothing to the table?
The move to LV and the Stadium are already mapped out so they don't need a politician. McKenzie looks like a solid GM so I doubt they would let him go.

Maybe Jon owes BA a favor for hiring Jay, that's the only way he is hired.[/quote]

I really need Bruce to relocate to your side of the country...let him infect the Raiders. They need to win more off the field

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My prediction for this year's Training Camp Man-Crush award: [url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/36509/final-pick-trey-quinn-confident-hell-be-relevant-with-redskins]Mr. Irrelevant Trey Quinn confident he'll be relevant with Redskins - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url]

It seems to me that, normally, the TCMC is reserved for undrafted guys. However, as the last pick taken by anyone, I think he qualifies.