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[quote=nonniey;1368673]Don't you think this is massive over the top hypocrisy coming from you, given the guy you like is exponentially slimier? Why do you think the conservatives (as few as there are remaining) either held their noises and sent their vote Biden's way or sat out?[/quote]

It’s not similar

Why do you think it’s retro 11 years to Jan 1 2014? What the significance?

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I find it odd that chico is trying to dump on Biden when his dictator leader is going to pardon over 2000 law breakers from Jan 6th on day one! And himself.

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Nick Cattogio on the pardon:

[url]https://www.islandpacket.com/opinion/us-viewpoints/article296458339.html[/url]

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[quote=hail2commanders;1368697]Nick Cattogio on the pardon:

[url]https://www.islandpacket.com/opinion/us-viewpoints/article296458339.html[/url][/quote]

If it comes down to who is the biggest liar in Politics , come on it's trump ten fold!

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[quote=hail2commanders;1368697]Nick Cattogio on the pardon:

[url]https://www.islandpacket.com/opinion/us-viewpoints/article296458339.html[/url][/quote]

Still doesn’t answer why 2014? Complete trash article. Trump has zero to do with Biden saying him and his trash son are above the law. You guys have zero moral high ground, none. Bunch of lying democrats the last 4 years who have lead this country where it is today…Trump didn’t cause Biden to lie, Hunter to be a criminal and then cause the pardon. Completely dishonesty from the same crowd who believe the Steele dossier, Russian collusion hoax

Question, you think it was ok for the Biden’s DOJ 3rd in charge to leave and then join Allen Bragg’s office to prosecute Trump in that political farce of a case?
The presidents DOJ prosecuting his main political rival…you were ok with that?

Remember, Biden set the precedent with DOJ political prosecution.

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[quote=Chico23231;1368701].....

Question, you think it was ok for the Biden’s DOJ 3rd in charge to leave and then join Allen Bragg’s office to prosecute Trump in that political farce of a case?
The presidents DOJ prosecuting his main political rival…you were ok with that?

Remember, Biden set the precedent with DOJ political prosecution.[/quote]

The problem with this bit of your argument is that it presupposes that Trump was innocent when the evidence was rock solid showing he committed the crimes he was charged with. The problem wasn't that the DOJ charged him it was that the Attorney General didn't want to charge him until his hand was forced but it was too late and ran into the election. Trump should have been charged in 2021 and he would have been convicted in 2023 and rightfully so.

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Ah....."led this country to where it is today?" Now we get the bias coming out.

Where exactly is the country today? Yep, I do think Trump will do better on immigration, no doubt. But do we solely blame Biden for where the country is now? Couldnt be Trump, right? I guess we have to blame Obama then. Cant blame Bush. Clinton?

Im just trying to figure out how bad things are. They really arent, of course, but if you consume cable news media, particularly Fox, well....of couse America is a hellscape.

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[quote=nonniey;1368703]The problem with this bit of your argument is that it presupposes that Trump was innocent when the evidence was rock solid showing he committed the crimes he was charged with. [B]The problem wasn't that the DOJ charged him it was that the Attorney General didn't want to charge him until his hand was forced but it was too late and ran into the election. Trump should have been charged in 2021 and he would have been convicted in 2023 and rightfully so[/B].[/quote]

Completely agree. What a dumb decision. In regards to the Hunter pardon I do think it erodes more faith in our democracy but maybe democrats will realize their politicians lie too. Biden could have used the pardon to actually help people like the 3000 people currently in federal prison due to marijuana charges. My biggest hopes would be Biden would be a moderate and not rock either way and step down after his first term. I was woefully off on him.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1368718]Completely agree. What a dumb decision. In regards to the Hunter pardon I do think it erodes more faith in our democracy but maybe democrats will realize their politicians lie too. Biden could have used the pardon to actually help people like the 3000 people currently in federal prison due to marijuana charges. My biggest hopes would be Biden would be a moderate and not rock either way and step down after his first term. [B]I was woefully off on him.[/B][/quote]

[IMG]https://media.tenor.com/omk2O7GT2GUAAAAM/samsonite-i-was-way-off.gif[/IMG]

My shock level of this pardon: 0%
My give a fucks level of this pardon: Also 0%

60% of the time, politicians lie every fucking time their lips move (Trump/Biden included).

Trump was going to do it anyways, but the J6ers gotta love that Biden did this, as this is now like a 110% guarantee they will all be pardoned before the calendar strikes February.

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Cattogio on the pardon, continued:

[url]https://www.thenewstribune.com/opinion/us-viewpoints/article296516644.html[/url]

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[quote=hail2commanders;1368709]Ah....."led this country to where it is today?" Now we get the bias coming out.

Where exactly is the country today? Yep, I do think Trump will do better on immigration, no doubt. But do we solely blame Biden for where the country is now? Couldnt be Trump, right? I guess we have to blame Obama then. Cant blame Bush. Clinton?

Im just trying to figure out how bad things are. They really arent, of course, but if you consume cable news media, particularly Fox, well....of couse America is a hellscape.[/quote]

It’s not a bias, his policies were failures period.

I raise kids and also needed to get a house in a better school district as we hit that middle school ages. I am acutely aware of the price of food. I had to take a 7% interest rate with a 875 credit score from living within my means.

Biden lied about inflation at first…then it was transitory. He’s directly responsible for that by his spending policies, when the economy didn’t need stimulus, he continued to spend. He caused it period.

That’s my personal experience

Young people can’t buy their first house, rents are highest ever in most places

But I can bring up the foreign policy, 13 dead us soldiers, and the 2 wars his weak leadership directly produced.

The failed open border policy which alone in 2023 cost American taxpayers over 100 billion. Illegals have killed Americans…blood on his hand directly

Record high opiate deaths from fentanyl coming across the border. My dad cousin, his daughter died a year and half ago from fentanyl.

What about norms? Your president Biden attacked democracy by his support of killing the filibuster, packing the courts…his DOJ called Americans at school board meetings terrorists. He attacked the Supreme Court repeatedly His DOJ prosecuted his top political rival. This is a radical piece of trash…your president. Had fucking cocaine at the White House…your president

You had a democrat travel across country to attempt to assassinate Justice Kavenaugh. You have two assassination attempts on president Trump fuel by a hateful democrat messaging.

Biden was a fucking disgrace.

And then he told the American people another lie and pardoned his trash Son. Putting him and his son above the law…after Democrats repeatedly said no one was above the law.

But again I will ask, why would Biden would grant a pardon going back 11 years..to 2014. None of his crimes he was found guilty of were past 2017,2018?

Why 2014?

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Chico, I think 2014 was akin to a nuisance payment in anticipation of continued investigations by the GOP over Burisma.

I cringe every four years when pardons are announced. Do away with these things.

As far as inflation, Im in complete agreement that Bidens spending worsened the situation. But its delusional to think that we werent due for significant inflation after the trillions in covid spendi f in 2020. And I dont blame Trump for that spending,

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Also have to say that the housing situation started in late 2020 as the ultra low interest rates combined with exhorbitant covid stimmt drove prices bat shit crazy in certain locations by then.

The Fed certainly acted too late, but they needed to significantly raise rates to combat inflation.

The Afghanistan withdrawal was a shitshow. As for Ukraine, I like Russia being weakened by the quagmire they got themselves into.

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[quote=hail2commanders;1368729]Also have to say that the housing situation started in late 2020 as the ultra low interest rates combined with exhorbitant covid stimmt drove prices bat shit crazy in certain locations by then.

The Fed certainly acted too late, but they needed to significantly raise rates to combat inflation.

[B]The Afghanistan withdrawal was a shitshow. [/B]As for Ukraine, I like Russia being weakened by the quagmire they got themselves into.[/quote]

Sure was and I blame Biden for following trumps withdrawal agreement!

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1368721][IMG]https://media.tenor.com/omk2O7GT2GUAAAAM/samsonite-i-was-way-off.gif[/IMG]

My shock level of this pardon: 0%
My give a fucks level of this pardon: Also 0%

60% of the time, politicians lie every fucking time their lips move (Trump/Biden included).

Trump was going to do it anyways, but the J6ers gotta love that Biden did this, as this is now like a 110% guarantee they will all be pardoned before the calendar strikes February.[/quote]

Trying to pardon him for Burisma shit is shady as fuck. I honestly think Biden could've convinced Trump to pardon Hunter on the gun charges. Do we really think people like Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham want political figures getting indicted for lying on legal forms to obtain firearms? Half of congress and senate has probably lied to get a gun.