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I don't really think Cam is the right choice for us, but I don't buy all these VY comparisons

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[quote=SmootSmack;779627]I don't really think Cam is the right choice for us, but I don't buy all these VY comparisons[/quote]

That was a direct quote from Mike Wise!!

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[quote=Longtimefan;779628]That was a direct quote from Mike Wise!![/quote]

He compared him to Young?

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One scout's summary of Mallet: "Jason Campbell talent with Jeff George attitude"

Um.....

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[quote=SmootSmack;779631]One scout's summary of Mallet: "Jason Campbell talent with Jeff George attitude"

Um.....[/quote]

Yuck

Hey SS why would you say no to cam? I'm not disagreeing with you just want your input on him..

Would you rather have locker or Gabbert?
I'm still open for a QB via trade (Orton)

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[quote=SmootSmack;779629]He compared him to Young?[/quote]

Yeah!, you'll find his quote on page two, last part of the article.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/21/AR2011012103811.html]Mike Wise - Even in wide-open NFL, the Redskins need to start over[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;779341]Define can't win games, and too many missed plays[/quote]

Look at the first Nebraska gm this year. Locker couldn't do anything throwing against a good defense. and Even in their bowl gm they won, but Locker throw something like 5-16. He ran for more yards than he threw.

He is below .500 for his college career, and I can't recall him ever making a gm winning drive.

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[quote=wilsowilso;779345]This is a terrible comparison.

Clown shoes bad.[/quote]

He is a better leader than Clausen but not by much. And true they don't have the same style of play, but they both lose confidence fairly easily.

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[quote=cdskins26;779571]Here are some numbers i would assess to the top 4 qb's in this draft: Please edit as seen fit.

Cam Newton:
Odds at being a 10-12 year starter: 1:2
Odds at flaming out or becoming a Campbell-like journeyman: 1:3
Time needed to sit before ready to start: 1-2 seasons.[/quote]

Yeah, if we did get him I think we should keep NcNabb even with the high price tag. McNabb can help for a couple years though we probably won't win a super bowl with him (an lets face it, it would be alil shocking with the current roster if we won one in the next couple of years anyways). McNabb can teach Cam, who seems like he may be somewhat immature, how to be and handle being an NFL QB like being the first and last person in the building and how to handle all the positive and negative attention.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;779633]Yuck

Hey SS why would you say no to cam? I'm not disagreeing with you just want your input on him..

Would you rather have locker or Gabbert?
I'm still open for a QB via trade (Orton)[/quote]

I haven't seen enough of Gabbert yet

Right now with Cam I see a guy who has a long long way to go. He's had one season of strong play, he doesn't see the field well either in my opinion. He may be spectacular one day. Don't think I want us to wait.

Locker is growing on me. Yes, he had poor showings against Nebraska and Stanford this year. But what about against other top 25 teams. Plus look at where that program was just a couple of years ago, and how they've improved-from 0-12 to a Bowl game. On the one hand you can call Locker a loser, or you can say that the Huskies have improved so much in just two years and that's in no small part due to Locker

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[quote=SmootSmack;779627]I don't really think Cam is the right choice for us, but I don't buy all these VY comparisons[/quote]

Not saying that the compisons are racist but all to often it seems when comparing players at any position we usually pair up guys that look the most similar and almost always one of the traits that get mixed in during comparisons is a players race. I think it's more unintentional though then anything else.

Me personally I felt that Wilbons comparison of Newton to Big Ben was more accurate. Both are mobile big buys that are hard to bring down with big arms. Both of them also came out during their junior years and if I remember right Big Ben played in a spread system similar to the one Newtons played in. Also Young is a lot more slender and probably a bit faster then Newton. An even closer comparison for Newton might be Tebow with a little more speed and better mechanics but minus the perfect human being thing.

[quote=SkinzWin;779575]Is it a coincidence Cam Newton co-signed Bus Cook and this company as his agents?!

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6046507"]ESPN: Cam Newton hires agent Bus Cook[/URL][/quote]

At least it wasn't Fletcher Smith.

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[quote=SmootSmack;779639]I haven't seen enough of Gabbert yet

Right now with Cam I see a guy who has a long long way to go. He's had one season of strong play, he doesn't see the field well either in my opinion. He may be spectacular one day. Don't think I want us to wait.

Locker is growing on me. Yes, he had poor showings against Nebraska and Stanford this year. But what about against other top 25 teams. Plus look at where that program was just a couple of years ago, and how they've improved-from 0-12 to a Bowl game. On the one hand you can call Locker a loser, or you can say that the Huskies have improved so much in just two years and that's in no small part due to Locker[/quote]

But would u take locker at 10? That's the question.. Gabbert would be a mistake IMHO, I just don't think he's all that..

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[quote=skinsfaninok;779646]But would u take locker at 10? That's the question.. Gabbert would be a mistake IMHO, I just don't think he's all that..[/quote]

If we couldn't trade down in the 2nd to get Ponder and another pick, yes I'd take Locker at 10

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[quote=SmootSmack;779639]
Locker is growing on me. Yes, he had poor showings against Nebraska and Stanford this year. But what about against other top 25 teams. Plus look at where that program was just a couple of years ago, and how they've improved-from 0-12 to a Bowl game. On the one hand you can call Locker a loser, or you can say that the Huskies have improved so much in just two years and that's in no small part due to Locker[/quote]

He definitely has some talent, but I don't see him becoming a high end pro QB, or even a majority of his career starter.

And loser isn't what i would call him, but I wouldn't call him a winner either. If I need one drive to win a game, i don't want the ball in Locker's hands. He is too inconsistent. People will probably refer to him like they do Grossman, Good rex bad rex, good john bad john.

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[quote=SmootSmack;779651]If we couldn't trade down in the 2nd to get Ponder and another pick, yes I'd take Locker at 10[/quote]

Your on ponder like I am Dalton lol.