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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;387345]All I know is that the Vikes, Cowboys and Giants are gonna stomp all over us. I'm not looking forward to the next few games. I'm not expecting anything special out of us against Chicago especially since we're losing a day of practice. The next 3 weeks are going to be long and painful.[/QUOTE]

Ok, changing my sig.

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as much as i hate to say this, sometimes i wish i'd never been born a skins fan....too painful-

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[quote=DynamiteRave;387337]And what hurts for me is that I still believe that deep down, we AREN'T a bad team. I think what kills me the most is that I can't figure out why we're so damn bad. I feel like we have most of the pieces there (besides losing a big one in ST) yet at the same time, we play like we're fresh out of college. It makes no sense to me.[/quote]


Thing is we have a scoring problem still, leftover from the Brunell days. I think on paper we have a good solid team, but plagued with injuries, etc anything on paper can easily be negated. Since the playoffs are realistically out of the picture, I almost hope we tank to get the top CB or DE in the draft.

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[quote=SmootSmack;387362]Ok, changing my sig.[/quote]

Hey you can't say that they aren't better teams than we are. They sure play better. Granted we have a chance, but those chances are slim.

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wait.... he called a double timeout, Gibbs is a fuckin moron

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[quote=DynamiteRave;387361]I'm not pissed about how they played. I'm pissed about the poor defensive play calling with 56 seconds left on the clock and that stupid 2nd timeout. I don't blame the players at all. I think they played great with a few lapses for the most part. Playing zone with 56 seconds left and giving up HUGE yardage down field is GW's fault for those awful calls. God. :frusty:[/quote]
Yes ...I was calling for more presssure....ANY NFL QB can kill you if given that much time.... And you cant cover for that long..... This is also on GW....

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Guys (and gals),

Losing this game sucks...talk about an exclamation point on a godd*mn god awful sh*tty week....:(

That's the bottom line and that's all I got to say, if I say anymore I'm liable to get banned...see ya'll Thursday...:Flush:

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yea im as frustrated as any skins fan over this loss... but i was almost 100% sure we werent going to win. the bills are another 5-6 (were 5-6) team like us who really are better than that, more talented and all just like us but after the death of sean tatylor.. the normal week of practice being all haywire and the funeral tomorrow for the team, i expected the skins to not be completely ready for this game or focused.

Now we have a Thursday game and i don't even expect them to be ready for that either. They're going to have 2 un normal weeks of football due to #21's passing. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't win anymore games this season because of everything thats happened. I am a true born redskins fan, faithful untill death... but severe recent events lead to severe outcomes. im still very proud of them but i know they are all hurting, which wont help our chances in games (which hardly matter for the rest of the year now)

that and a 15 yard penalty for calling a timeout. who knew that was so unsportsman like? damn joe gibbs for being such a poor sport... calling a timeout.. what a jerk.

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This loss is ironic. With about 5 minutes left in the 4th quarter, I turned to my dad and said, "I cannot believe this, we still have 3 timeouts. We normally have about one right now." And what costs us the game? THE FACT THAT WE STILL HAD TIMEOUTS LEFT!!!! The one game when we actually have all our timeouts towards the end of the 4th quarter, we don't really need them, and then we use one to lose the game!!! The reason Gibbs didn't know about that rule is because we've never had that many timeouts late in the game to worry about it!!!

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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;387367]Hey you can't say that they aren't better teams than we are. They sure play better. Granted we have a chance, but those chances are slim.[/QUOTE]

I know, I'm sorry. Just that fucking lack of respect during the moment of silence just reiterated to me why I think as a whole Redskins fans are the lamest in just about all of sports. Love the team, hate the fans. And then for people to say the team let the fans down today? Are you kidding me? How fucking selfish are you?

It's a very general statement to make I know, and I'm trying not to single people out (not singling you out particularly) but I'm sick of it.

Some idiots will call it drinking the kool-aid. Well fuck them. It's not about that at all, it's about how fans are always expecting the worst from this team. Yeah, yeah "prove me wrong" I know. We're not playing well, true. And these last two games are games we should have absolutely won. But I'm sorry I just have a hard time rallying around my fellow fans when they decide they're going to throw in the towel.

It's why I don't watch games anymore up here with people who say "Well I have no hope for this team...but I'll be right there cheering for them when they win" Yeah well you know what, good riddance to you.

(I apologize in advance for the language, but I'm just tired of this)

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Sigh. Disappointment is starting to become a very common feeling for me on Sunday afternoons. With all that this team has been through, I have to believe that they weren't prepared to play the game today. And that is totally understandable, if I was a player there's no way I would feel that I could give my best effort almost a week after losing someone like Sean.

This game showed us more of the issues we've seen all year. Halftime leads, letting the other team get back into it in the second half, it's a problem that hasn't gone away and isn't likely to go away this season. I'm not really worried about the playoffs, I just wish the season was kinda over right now so that these guys could get away and have some time with themselves to grieve. I know that the guys in that locker room are feeling just as, if not worse, than I feel right now, and maybe some time away would be able to help. I don't think after the way that we played today that we will be able to get back into the playoff race, and I hope that the end of the season gets here quick so we won't have to watch our team lose anymore games in this heartbreaking fashion anymore.

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Im not here to question anyones loyalty to the Skins but stop your self pitty. So they lost who cares, really? All those players can still go home to their families and as for us fans we can go on with out lives. If you think about it losing the way we did may be the ultimate tribute to ST. During the game i caught myself thinking if only ST was in there he would have nailed that guy or ST would have picked that pass off. Dont you think the fact that we lost shows how important he was to us on the field? We as fans saw the Skins lose a game but they really lost more than that, they lost a teammate and friend. I couldnt imagine how emotionally drained the team as a whole is and then have to come out and play off of emotion, thats alot to ask dont you think? I know ill get a lot of crap from people on this site but thats OK....

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[quote=SmootSmack;387382]I know, I'm sorry. Just that fucking lack of respect during the moment of silence just reiterated to me why I think as a whole Redskins fans are the lamest in just about all of sports. Love the team, hate the fans. And then for people to say the team let the fans down today? Are you kidding me? How fucking selfish are you?

It's a very general statement to make I know, and I'm trying not to single people out (not singling you out particularly) but I'm sick of it.

Some idiots will call it drinking the kool-aid. Well fuck them. It's not about that at all, it's about how fans are always expecting the worst from this team. Yeah, yeah "prove me wrong" I know. We're not playing well, true. And these last two games are games we should have absolutely won. But I'm sorry I just have a hard time rallying around my fellow fans when they decide they're going to throw in the towel.

It's why I don't watch games anymore up here with people who say "Well I have no hope for this team...but I'll be right there cheering for them when they win" Yeah well you know what, good riddance to you.

(I apologize in advance for the language, but I'm just tired of this)[/quote]

I was watching during the pre-game too when they held the moment of silence, and when I heard the fans cheering I honestly thought that we must have some of the most retarded fans in the league. When we say "moment of silence" we don't mean "cheer on a beloved player", but obviously some people didn't get the memo.

As for the Skins, I'm giving this team a pass for the rest of the season, like a lot of people have said they are emotionally drained and it's a lot to ask of them in a time like this.

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[quote=SmootSmack;387382]I know, I'm sorry. Just that fucking lack of respect during the moment of silence just reiterated to me why I think as a whole Redskins fans are the lamest in just about all of sports. Love the team, hate the fans. And then for people to say the team let the fans down today? Are you kidding me? How fucking selfish are you?

It's a very general statement to make I know, and I'm trying not to single people out (not singling you out particularly) but I'm sick of it.

Some idiots will call it drinking the kool-aid. Well fuck them. It's not about that at all, it's about how fans are always expecting the worst from this team. Yeah, yeah "prove me wrong" I know. We're not playing well, true. And these last two games are games we should have absolutely won. But I'm sorry I just have a hard time rallying around my fellow fans when they decide they're going to throw in the towel.

It's why I don't watch games anymore up here with people who say "Well I have no hope for this team...but I'll be right there cheering for them when they win" Yeah well you know what, good riddance to you.

(I apologize in advance for the language, but I'm just tired of this)[/quote]

No problem SS. I didn't get to watch the pre-game but I hate people who can't respect the moment of silence thing. I hope whoever was cheering got their ass beat after the game in the parking lot.

I don't expect the worse, I never did till now. I'm not gonna throw in the towel, I will continue to watch every game and continue not making money on Sundays because I'd rather stay home watch the Skins. That's just how I am. Everyone's a little hurt right now because they wanted a big win for Sean and ya know you gotta give fans the benefit of the doubt, SS.

I REALLY hope no ones blaming the players for this loss though because I sure don't. I don't think anyone was expecting perfection. But some people pull so hard for the team that when they're let down it's just like a "Fuck it" mentality, you know? I'm not a kool-aid drinker, I'm not a hater-aid drinker, I just call it how I see it. And how I see it right now, I don't think we're gonna finish up the season very well, based on the tragedy of ST and how.. well.. we're not a team that finishes up games very well.

I know most people want the Skins to do well and for the naysayers, I wish they'd stay off this site. But, everything's gonna be alright in the end, even if we don't make the playoffs.

No need for hostilities, we're all Skins fans here. (At least I think so :confused:)

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[quote=SmootSmack;387382]And then for people to say the team let the fans down today? Are you kidding me? How fucking selfish are you?[/quote]


I agree 100% with this part of your post. I usually get mad at the Skins when they lose but this week it doesnt feel right to get upset. This week is like "Who cares?" Maybe only some of use have realized in the last week that LIFE is more important than football. Isnt that what we have been talking about all week?

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I mean the sad part is, I wasn't surprised at all when I heard it. Here at work I caught the moment of silence at other games and every stadium was completely silent

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[quote=Monk-Fan;387384]Im not here to question anyones loyalty to the Skins but stop your self pitty. So they lost who cares, really? All those players can still go home to their families and as for us fans we can go on with out lives. If you think about it losing the way we did may be the ultimate tribute to ST. During the game i caught myself thinking if only ST was in there he would have nailed that guy or ST would have picked that pass off. Dont you think the fact that we lost shows how important he was to us on the field? We as fans saw the Skins lose a game but they really lost more than that, they lost a teammate and friend. I couldnt imagine how emotionally drained the team as a whole is and then have to come out and play off of emotion, thats alot to ask dont you think? I know ill get a lot of crap from people on this site but thats OK....[/quote]

Well said. If one of my buds lost his life say at work I wouldn't exactly be up to working my butt off. Skins win or lose, we really don't benefit or lose anything important in our lives, it is just that our favorite team wins or loses a game. Still, it would have been nice for them to win it for ST, but then again one win isn't going to ever negate anything for the team in losing a friend.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;387382]I know, I'm sorry. Just that fucking lack of respect during the moment of silence just reiterated to me why I think as a whole Redskins fans are the lamest in just about all of sports. Love the team, hate the fans. And then for people to say the team let the fans down today? Are you kidding me? How fucking selfish are you?

It's a very general statement to make I know, and I'm trying not to single people out (not singling you out particularly) but I'm sick of it.

Some idiots will call it drinking the kool-aid. Well fuck them. It's not about that at all, it's about how fans are always expecting the worst from this team. Yeah, yeah "prove me wrong" I know. We're not playing well, true. And these last two games are games we should have absolutely won. But I'm sorry I just have a hard time rallying around my fellow fans when they decide they're going to throw in the towel.

It's why I don't watch games anymore up here with people who say "Well I have no hope for this team...but I'll be right there cheering for them when they win" Yeah well you know what, good riddance to you.

(I apologize in advance for the language, but I'm just tired of this)[/QUOTE]


Probably my favorite post that you've made.

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Guys, its been a tough week for the entire Redskin family. We all need to calm down. I realize that people wanted us to win, but that didn't happen. I thought that this week would have at least taught us that football is just a game. There are more thn 53 men out there today who were still nursing an extremely deep wound. It would have been great to win one for Sean, but that didn't happen, and thats trivial now.

I also realize that many of you may have been depending on this game as a possible means of upliftment after a hard week, and you have taken it to heart that we have lost. Don't! Watch the memorial service tomorrow, and come to closure with the issue, but don't expect these players, who were much, much closer to the man than you were, to close the issue for you. These guys came out and played hard; as hard as one could possibly do after dealing with intense heartbreak. Don't blame them, or the coaching staff for this loss.

Guys, girls, you can't be a true fan and give up on your team, ever. This is a site for true, knowledgeable fans, not ranting bandwagonists, so if you fall into that category, please leave the site. No disrespect to you, but when people like that post, it negatively affects the board and the posters, and unecessarily so.

Sorry if this was incoherent, had a lot to say

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[quote=Jamaican'Skin;387451]Guys, its been a tough week for the entire Redskin family. We all need to calm down. I realize that people wanted us to win, but that didn't happen. I thought that this week would have at least taught us that football is just a game. There are more thn 53 men out there today who were still nursing an extremely deep wound. It would have been great to win one for Sean, but that didn't happen, and thats trivial now.

I also realize that many of you may have been depending on this game as a possible means of upliftment after a hard week, and you have taken it to heart that we have lost. Don't! Watch the memorial service tomorrow, and come to closure with the issue, but don't expect these players, who were much, much closer to the man than you were, to close the issue for you. These guys came out and played hard; as hard as one could possibly do after dealing with intense heartbreak. Don't blame them, or the coaching staff for this loss.

Guys, girls, you can't be a true fan and give up on your team, ever. This is a site for true, knowledgeable fans, not ranting bandwagonists, so if you fall into that category, please leave the site. No disrespect to you, but when people like that post, it negatively affects the board and the posters, and unecessarily so.

Sorry if this was incoherent, had a lot to say[/quote]

Not incoherent at all...very good post.

I am not going to criticize any member of the organization because of this loss. They played their hearts out but came up short against a defense who shut our run game down and made some big plays. During the moment of silence, you could see many of the members of the team in tears, a few seconds later they had to think about playcalling and techniques, not an easy thing to do. A few idiots made noise during the moment of silence, but if you looked at the crowd throughout the whole game, the FAR majority of them were there to honor Sean and they did with respect.

Smootsmack, be careful speaking about a few of our fans with anger and emotion and condemning all of us. The Redskins fanbase has proven to be loyal and the best in football over and over throughout the years, so to speak the way you did, although your emotions warrant it, has no basis in fact.

I have a great respect for you and what you bring to the site, but if you're that angry, you may need to just let the site go for a day or two and let your anger subside. For the most part, we have a great community here and we wouldn't want anyone to be driven away in a time where we should be here to support each other and the team.

Football is not important right now. They performed well considering the circumstances and the outcome showed what we've seen in the past few weeks while Sean was injured...he was a difference maker and probably the key to our defense. He'll be missed greatly, on the field and in the locker room, as well as by his family.

I don't care if the team wins or loses right now, I just want them to be OK after such a tragic loss.

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[QUOTE=Buster;388091]Not incoherent at all...very good post.

I am not going to criticize any member of the organization because of this loss. They played their hearts out but came up short against a defense who shut our run game down and made some big plays. During the moment of silence, you could see many of the members of the team in tears, a few seconds later they had to think about playcalling and techniques, not an easy thing to do. A few idiots made noise during the moment of silence, but if you looked at the crowd throughout the whole game, the FAR majority of them were there to honor Sean and they did with respect.

Smootsmack, be careful speaking about a few of our fans with anger and emotion and condemning all of us. The Redskins fanbase has proven to be loyal and the best in football over and over throughout the years, so to speak the way you did, although your emotions warrant it, has no basis in fact.

I have a great respect for you and what you bring to the site, but if you're that angry, you may need to just let the site go for a day or two and let your anger subside. For the most part, we have a great community here and we wouldn't want anyone to be driven away in a time where we should be here to support each other and the team.

Football is not important right now. They performed well considering the circumstances and the outcome showed what we've seen in the past few weeks while Sean was injured...he was a difference maker and probably the key to our defense. He'll be missed greatly, on the field and in the locker room, as well as by his family.

I don't care if the team wins or loses right now, I just want them to be OK after such a tragic loss.[/QUOTE]

Well I tried to make it clear that I wasn't speaking about all fans, just many of them. It is my personal opinion that, if asked to make a general statement about the fans, I would say that overall they are pretty lame. Of course, that doesn't mean each and every one is. I know I'm not :). I mean this is a great site with many great members (yourself included), but it does change the fact that there have been and still are plenty who are, well, lame.

Again this is just my opinion from 25 years of being a fan of the team. You may think otherwise.

And quite honestly, sometimes I like the freedom to just take off my moderator hat and get to act human. A lot of people come on here and get all emotional after a loss. I should be granted that right on occassion as well.

I completely agree that what's most important is the mental and emotional well being of the team. Not the fans, the team.

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[quote=SmootSmack;388110]Well I tried to make it clear that I wasn't speaking about all fans, just many of them. It is my personal opinion that, if asked to make a general statement about the fans, I would say that overall they are pretty lame. Of course, that doesn't mean each and every one is. I know I'm not :). I mean this is a great site with many great members (yourself included), but it does change the fact that there have been and still are plenty who are, well, lame.

Again this is just my opinion from 25 years of being a fan of the team. You may think otherwise.

And quite honestly, sometimes I like the freedom to just take off my moderator hat and get to act human. A lot of people come on here and get all emotional after a loss. I should be granted that right on occassion as well.

I completely agree that what's most important is the mental and emotional well being of the team. Not the fans, the team.[/quote]

I agree with you about many things, including avoiding the game threads until the next day after the game is over. Hearing the remarks like "bench Portis" and "fire Gibbs" when we don't convert a 3rd down or even lose a game is sickening.

Yes, there are plenty of disrespectful Skins fans, the same who won't remove their hats for the National Anthem or use turn signals. Every team has them though and from what I see, we have base of MORE loyal, MORE respectful and overall MORE just civilized fans. Our bad ones aren't anywhere near as bad as Philly's, Dallas', New England's, Oakland's...

I hope you didn't take my post as a personal attack or any type of anger or hatred for you. It wasn't meant that way. I am also emotionally drained from the week as a fan and frustrated with our loss (of Sean, not the game which I think the guys performed admirably considering the circumstances).

I've been a Skins fan for over 20 years as well. I'm seen a few bad apples, but for the most part, we have a great fan base in my opinion. Our organization is respectable too, moreso when Gibbs is a part of it. Even if they don't win, we always show sportsmanship and class. You never see our players being suspended or arrested and we do a ton of charity work, probably more than other teams.