Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith
 

[quote=Chico23231;1187271]No he isn't and its not close.[/quote]

your trying to say that a slot CB as good as he was this year who had one good year is better than a four year starting outside CB? You are delusional and in shock.

Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith
 

according to PFT The Cardinals were serious competitors to land Smith as well

Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith
 

[quote=metalskins;1187285]I'm dumb when it comes to how guaranteed money affects the cap, but that being said, does the deal with Alex Smith free up money to possibly re-sign guys like Zach Brown?[/quote]

It says 71 mil guaranteed but does that mean fully? We won't know until March 14th. It will be less cap space than what we would have had to sign KC for however.

Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith
 

[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1187278]Yeah he was in Reid's system anybody remember the last QB Reid traded to the Redskins? Don't think we are headed to McNabb 2.0 but Reid knows value in QB the fact he was ready to let him walk says a lot to me.[/quote]

They only let him walk because they got lucky and hit the lotto with Mahommes

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1187201]And both statements are wrong, kirk and Alex both were top 10 the last 2 years throwing deep

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Wasn't last year in part to Chris Thompson running several of those short passes for long gains? Same with Alex Smith and Tyreke Hill.

Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith
 

[quote=hutch17;1187288]your trying to say that a slot CB as good as he was this year who had one good year is better than a four year starting outside CB? You are delusional and in shock.[/quote]

Not only Im I saying that, Im also saying his pedigree and potential is probowler. He showed this year why he was considered a 1st round talent coming out of Va Tech. Guy is a physical baller.

Fuller is already a better player than Breeland. Also, Breeland isn't a good locker room dude, he has an attitude issue.

Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith
 

[quote=NC_Skins;1187293]Wasn't last year in part to Chris Thompson running several of those short passes for long gains? Same with Alex Smith and Tyreke Hill.[/quote]

Both were top 10 in air yards, but of course Tyreke helps dude is a baller

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1187286]seems like you and I are the only ones not mad about this move, I actually LOVE it[/quote]

Initial fan reaction around here is usually me Hulk, me mad, me smash. Yawn.

When the dust settles we basically made a lateral move in terms of player production and at less money, money that can hopefully go towards a guy like Z. Brown.

There was never going to be a nice clean ending to the Cousins drama that we could all agree on. Yes the team F'd it up and could/should have signed him 2 years ago. But I also remember plenty of folks comparing him to the likes of Rex Grossman and saying he wasn't worthy of a long term deal. I'm guessing some of those same people are the ones all up in arms now. It wasn't that long ago some thought RGIII got a raw deal when Gruden made the switch.

I like the fact the QB drama is now settled, likely for the next 3 years at least. In the meantime we can draft and develop someone and we didn't choke out the cap in the process.

Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1187242]Just remember the whole world said we got robbed of the RG3 trade too and the Rams ended up getting basically nothing for years until Mcvay came. We'll see what happens, if Smith leads us to the playoffs next yr all will be forgotten[/quote]

We did not get better with this trade.

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[quote=MTK;1187297]Initial fan reaction around here is usually me Hulk, me mad, me smash. Yawn.

When the dust settles we basically made a lateral move in terms of player production and at less money, money that can hopefully go towards a guy like Z. Brown.

There was never going to be a nice clean ending to the Cousins drama that we could all agree on. Yes the team F'd it up and could/should have signed him 2 years ago. But I also remember plenty of folks comparing him to the likes of Rex Grossman and saying he wasn't worthy of a long term deal. I'm guessing some of those same people are the ones all up in arms now. It wasn't that long ago some thought RGIII got a raw deal when Gruden made the switch.

I like the fact the QB drama is now settled, likely for the next 3 years at least. In the meantime we can draft and develop someone and we didn't choke out the cap in the process.[/quote]

Yep I'm just glad we got a guy that wants to be here and has a chip on his shoulder. He will produce just as good as Kirk did. The system helped KC and we all said that

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[quote=skinsfan69;1187298]We did not get better with this trade.[/quote]

We will see man, time will tell. If he wins us games and playoff games we will be happy

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We didn't get worse, which would have been the case with probably any other QB solution.

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[quote=hutch17;1187267]Time value of money (pick) makes a 2018 3rd > 2019 3rd

not insanely but still not equal.

All that being said I was pissed about this last night but have since come around. I think that Smith will be better in Jay's system than KC was and this gives us freedom in the draft (my hope is move back 6-8 spots pick up another 2nd and draft Lamar Jackson to groom) and plenty of money to resign Breeland. and or Zach Brown. Breeland is equal to fuller if not better and we are DEEP at CB.[/quote]

Don't forget we will only get that 2019 3rd rounder if we don't sign FA that end up negating it in the off season. There is a chance we might not get it.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1187298]We did not get better with this trade.[/quote]

So what? We didn't get appreciably worse, either. Kirk was leaving. We needed a QB. Colt was/is not the answer. We had competition for Smith, so we had to pay more. End of story.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1187278]Yeah he was in Reid's system anybody remember the last QB Reid traded to the Redskins? Don't think we are headed to McNabb 2.0 but Reid knows value in QB the fact he was ready to let him walk says a lot to me.[/quote]

Reid was like, " Let me call those fucking dummies in Washington. I got over on those stupid asses w/ an old, fat washed up McNabb so I'll try them first. I know they'll be willing to give up a draft pick cause that's what they like to do. I bet this time I can even get one of their best starters too. Let me call Bruce directly."