re: Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan
 

[quote=CrazyCanuck;897841]Did some quick calculations on the recent signings. Here are the cap hits I've come up with so far given the info out there (000s):

Carriker
2012: $2,750
2013: $4,750
2014: $5,750
2015: $6,750
TOTAL: $20,000

Garcon
2012: $7,300
2013: $7,300
2014: $8,300
2015: $9,300
2016: $10,300
TOTAL: $42,500

Morgan
2012: $2,200
2013: $2,300
2014: $2,500
2015: $2,500
2016: $2,500
TOTAL: $12,000[/quote]

Garcon's getting 13.5 in year one, 7.25 in year two, and 7.25 in year 3...unconfirmed

re: Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan
 

[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;897915]yea i think safety and RT are our main needs now, for safety i like reggie nelson or dwight lowrey[/quote]

Dwights the real deal. Don't think we have interest in him..

I heard we have interest in Jim Leonard.

re: Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan
 

i dont minde cutting hall but if we do who in gods name is our starting corner along with wilson? i would love carr but i dont think we have enough money

re: Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan
 

[quote=SmootSmack;897920]Garcon's getting 13.5 in year one, 7.25 in year two, and 7.25 in year 3...unconfirmed[/quote]

How is that possible with our cap reduction? Are we just saying '**** it, we'll do what we want' to Goodell?

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[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;897922]i dont minde cutting hall but if we do who in gods name is our starting corner along with wilson? i would love carr but i dont think we have enough money[/quote]

Talking to CB Eric Wright

re: Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan
 

[quote=CultBrennan59;897918]a point someone made earlier is still sticking with me.

Marques Colston signed a smaller deal to stay in New Orleans, and was considered the best or second best WR on the market. Pierre was the third best and got a bigger offer. Thats either bad negotiating by us or Marques knows he's not that good without brees. somethings off here..[/quote]

a) not everyone considered Garcon as third best
b) Colston took the "home-town" discount. Garcon preferred market competition and uprooting his family
c) although Garcon got more, the two deals are pretty similar

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I'm also someone puzzled with the signing of these 3 receivers. None are that special and just more of what they usually get at WR... small receivers who can't break away from the defensive backs covering them. At least all 3 of these guys are young. But where is the 6-3, 220 WR that can be the go-to person when you need a first down... maybe Hankerson if he stops dropping passes.

I sure hope to hear of some great OL and DL FA picks here pretty soon... fingers crossed.

re: Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan
 

[quote=Lotus;897925]a) not everyone considered Garcon as third best
b) Colston took the "home-town" discount. Garcon preferred market competition and uprooting his family
c) although Garcon got more, the two deals are pretty similar[/quote]

Also skins had to beat Indys offer. Colston had no other offer to beat.

re: Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan
 

[quote=mbedner3420;897923]How is that possible with our cap reduction? [B]Are we just saying '**** it, we'll do what we want' to Goodell?[/B][/quote]

Yes I believe we are, although it's directed more towards owners than it is Goodell. And I personally support this strategy.

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So is Eddie Royal done?

re: Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan
 

[quote=CrazyCanuck;897865]Ya seems like overkill. Doesn't bode well for my boy Santana.

My guess is they cut Gaffney soon, Moss after June 1st, or both.[/quote]Man, I hope not.
Seems like they got quantity more then quality.
There are only a finite number of targets.
But, we have far more WRs then possible targets or catch opportunities.

The funny thing (or not so funny if they cut Gaffney and/or Moss) is that using advanced metrics from Football Outsiders Gaffney was ranked higher in DYAR/DVOA then Garcon whose DYAR/DVOA were equal to Tana playing through a broken hand.

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Who are we looking at for the DEFENSE?

Right now I see our draft looking like Defense, a RB, an OL player, and of course Mr. RGIII.

Now I am excited about the RGIII deal!

re: Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan
 

[quote=30gut;897930]Man, I hope not.
Seems like they got quantity more then quality.
There are only a finite number of targets.
But, we have far more WRs then possible targets or catch opportunities.

[B]The funny thing (or not so funny if they cut Gaffney and/or Moss) is that using advanced metrics from Football Outsiders Gaffney was ranked higher in DYAR/DVOA then Garcon whose DYAR/DVOA were equal to Tana playing through a broken hand.[/B][/quote]

One could argue that Gaffney and Moss have their best football behind them while Garcon likely has his best yet to come.

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Anyone notice that we gave Garcon more than Colston got? Or that Josh Morgan is getting 6 mil a year? Any news on how much Royal is getting? Shit I wish we got Winston instead of Morgan...

Has the draft pick trade with the Rams been approved yet.


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