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Clearance sale in Dallas!

[QUOTE]
[B]The Cowboys have reportedly put DE Marcus Spears, LB Bobby Carpenter, S Pat Watkins, G/C Cory Procter, and WR Sam Hurd on the trade block.[/B]
The former two were first-round picks. Spears was outplayed by his backups a year ago, and may be available for a late-round pick. Carpenter could appeal to 4-3 teams that play a less physical style of defense. Watkins is highly athletic with incredible size, but highly prone to injury. Having signed their tenders, Procter and Hurd are free to be moved immediately.

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&hl=171681&id=3173]Marcus Spears[/url][/QUOTE]

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Most of those players are crap, but Hurd would be a nice pickup (and Spears would have been fine -- pre-Carriker).

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Ben Hamilton going to Seattle...

Adam_Schefter

Seattle reached agreement with former Broncos guard Ben Hamilton, reuniting him with former Denver OL coach Alex Gibbs.

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Busy day...

Adam_Schefter

Filed to ESPN: Pittsburgh just traded a seventh-round pick for former Buccaneers QB Byron Leftwich.

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[quote=Ruhskins;690606]Busy day...

Adam_Schefter

Filed to ESPN: Pittsburgh just traded a seventh-round pick for former Buccaneers QB Byron Leftwich.[/quote]

Goodbye Roethlisberger! :silly:

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[quote=Ruhskins;690606]Busy day...

Adam_Schefter

Filed to ESPN: Pittsburgh just traded a seventh-round pick for former Buccaneers QB Byron Leftwich.[/quote]
Bad memories of that 2008 MNF game have re-emerged from the dark abyss....

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Slowly breaking up the best line in the NFL?
[quote]Faneca gone after draft?
2:50
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Alan Faneca | Jets Top Email

Within a breakdown of some as of yet unreported names that could be traded this week, Michael Lombardi of National Football Post included New York Jets guard Alan Faneca. Furthermore, Lombardi wrote, Faneca is "the first to go after the draft."

Faneca is on year No. 3 of a five-year, $40 million deal. In spite of Faneca's skill level, we're not sure that any team would be interested in trading for a 34-year-old O-lineman with that kind of contract; because of this, the waiving option is more likely than a trade. The other logical extension of this rumor is that the Jets are likely to draft an interior lineman or two this weekend, possibly as early as their first overall selection at No. 29. Possibilities there include Florida C/G Maurkice Pouncey and Idaho G Mike Iupati.[/quote]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;690443]Adam_Schefter

Filed to ESPN: Jason Taylor has agreed to become a New York Jet. 2 minutes ago via UberTwitter[/quote]

Hahahaha. I think this is funny as crap. Taylor feels that Miami won't pick him up again so he goes to the rival and tries to twist Miami's arm into making a decision and keeping him. Miami plays the games for about 2 weeks and finally says no we don't want you. Mean while the Jets are treated to "oh wait Miami is interested in me and I really hate the Jets and don't want to be one so let me see if Miami will take me back." Only to be rebuffed by Miami. lol. If I was a Jet I'd boo that mother every time he got on the field.

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[quote=SBXVII;690623]Hahahaha. I think this is funny as crap. Taylor feels that Miami won't pick him up again so he goes to the rival and tries to twist Miami's arm into making a decision and keeping him. Miami plays the games for about 2 weeks and finally says no we don't want you. Mean while the Jets are treated to "oh wait Miami is interested in me and I really hate the Jets and don't want to be one so let me see if Miami will take me back." Only to be rebuffed by Miami. lol. If I was a Jet I'd boo that mother every time he got on the field.[/quote]
He really ended a good career on a pathetic 3 years.

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[quote=Ruhskins;690606]Busy day...

Adam_Schefter

Filed to ESPN: Pittsburgh just traded a seventh-round pick for former Buccaneers QB Byron Leftwich.[/quote]
I thought that he'd end up back there.

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[quote=SBXVII;690623]If I was a Jet I'd boo that mother every time he got on the field.[/quote]

I don't think they'll have to worry about seeing him on the field very much.

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Oh yeah where are all the Redskins are not trading AH fans? You know who you are. You were the ones saying that Shanahan denies shopping AH. That it was all BS and the Skins were keeping AH. You know who you are. This is for you....

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/20/titans-redskins-have-talked-haynesworth/]Titans, Redskins have talked Haynesworth | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

[QUOTE]Jim Wyatt of the Nashville Tennessean reports the two teams have had discussions.

So basically Mike Shanahan is full of it. But we knew that. We don't even hold it against him.

According to Wyatt, "If the Redskins are truly done with Haynesworth, and want to unload him for cheap, the Titans are ready and willing to take him back in."
[/QUOTE]

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I don't like Cerrato but this is the type of inside info I'd love to hear. He needs to write a book. I mean if he wants to make decent money I'm sure many of us would pick up the book to learn why certain picks were picked and why others were ignored. Maybe even some inside info on how certain players are or acted while with the Skins.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/20/cerrato-talks-about-past-drafts/]Cerrato talks about past drafts | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

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[quote=SBXVII;690653]Oh yeah where are all the Redskins are not trading AH fans? You know who you are. You were the ones saying that Shanahan denies shopping AH. That it was all BS and the Skins were keeping AH. You know who you are. This is for you....

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/20/titans-redskins-have-talked-haynesworth/]Titans, Redskins have talked Haynesworth | ProFootballTalk.com[/url][/quote]

And what does this mean. The source is a nashville reporter and the article is PFT. Discussions could very well mean they called and were told no. There is zero information in this that would indicate anything.

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The last link in the AH/PFT story is also funny:
[QUOTE]A year ago, then-Cardinals receiver Anquan Boldin was the subject of trade talks with the Titans. The deal never materialized because the Cardinals didn’t want to give Boldin away for cheap. He was traded to the Ravens this offseason instead.

Before that, the Titans entertained the idea of trading for then-Chargers running back Michael Turner. They also had trade talks in the past about former Lions and Raiders receiver Mike Williams, who eventually joined the Titans after the Raiders released him.[/QUOTE]

Basically the Titans want to talk to every named player but rarely are willing to pay for them. What could they offer us in return for AH? They say they won't give the 1st rd pick(#16), they don't have a 2nd either, so it would be the 3rd round pick. If Shanahan/Allen did that deal that would be pure unadulterated boneheadedness. But the Titans will talk like they want him, because at that price, they do.

The AH stuff just reeks of Media driven speculation, one article quoting another ad infinitum. Schefter on Sirius today said he had 2 different Redskins source again state that AH isn't going anywhere. He acknowledged that they could be putting up a smoke screen, BUT he didn't think they were.

Either way, the time is getting short and we will all know soon.

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[quote=SBXVII;690653]Oh yeah where are all the Redskins are not trading AH fans? You know who you are. You were the ones saying that Shanahan denies shopping AH. That it was all BS and the Skins were keeping AH. You know who you are. This is for you....

[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/20/titans-redskins-have-talked-haynesworth/"]Titans, Redskins have talked Haynesworth | ProFootballTalk.com[/URL][/quote]


This isn't exactly earth shattering news. Haynesworth is a dominant player and has a cheap contract. So the key is "if we want to unload him for cheap". To me that means if we just want to get him out the door for virtually nothing, they will accept him. Duh.

I don't think a second round pick along with another pick is exactly "cheap". If we want to dump him for a low round pick, there will be a lot of teams interested.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;690685]The last link in the AH/PFT story is also funny:


Basically the Titans want to talk to every named player but rarely are willing to pay for them. What could they offer us in return for AH? They say they won't give the 1st rd pick(#16), they don't have a 2nd either, so it would be the 3rd round pick. If Shanahan/Allen did that deal that would be pure unadulterated boneheadedness. But the Titans will talk like they want him, because at that price, they do.

The AH stuff just reeks of Media driven speculation, one article quoting another ad infinitum. Schefter on Sirius today said he had 2 different Redskins source again state that AH isn't going anywhere. He acknowledged that they could be putting up a smoke screen, BUT he didn't think they were.

Either way, the time is getting short and we will all know soon.[/quote]

I'm not sure that it's media speculation anymore but with a lowball organization like Tennessee I doubt anything happens unless they start coughing up picks for next year. Personally I'm inclined to believe Schefter but it seems logical to me that they won't hesitate to move him.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;690703]This isn't exactly earth shattering news. Haynesworth is a dominant player and has a cheap contract. So the key is "if we want to unload him for cheap". To me that means if we just want to get him out the door for virtually nothing, they will accept him. Duh.

I don't think a second round pick along with another pick is exactly "cheap". If we want to dump him for a low round pick, there will be a lot of teams interested.[/quote]

No it's not earth shattering news. It's been reported by other teams that the Skins have been trying to see what they could get for AH. The Skins top brass deny this. The Eagles said the Skins offered AH as trade for McNabb. The Skins deny looking to trade AH. Even say they are not going to trade him.

Honestly right now I don't know who to believe. I think there is so much deception coming out of the Skins organization it would drive someone crazy. I just hope in the end all this work and lies turn up exactly what they were looking to accomplish.

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I would be shocked....shocked.....if Haynesworth isn't dealt by friday. Past the point of no return in my mind, and I think ShanAllen will hope for a 2nd, but will take a 3rd round pick for him and move ahead.

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[quote=jdc65;690736]I would be shocked....shocked.....if Haynesworth isn't dealt by friday. Past the point of no return in my mind, and I think ShanAllen will hope for a 2nd, but will take a 3rd round pick for him and move ahead.[/quote]


3rd rounders barely take the field around here. I just don't see it.

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[quote=jdc65;690736]I would be shocked....shocked.....if Haynesworth isn't dealt by friday. Past the point of no return in my mind, and I think ShanAllen will hope for a 2nd, but will take a 3rd round pick for him and move ahead.[/quote]

No more crazy pills for you today.:nono:

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[quote=SBXVII;690653]Oh yeah where are all the Redskins are not trading AH fans? You know who you are. You were the ones saying that Shanahan denies shopping AH. That it was all BS and the Skins were keeping AH. You know who you are. This is for you....

[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/20/titans-redskins-have-talked-haynesworth/"]Titans, Redskins have talked Haynesworth | ProFootballTalk.com[/URL][/quote]
people have said that it's been reported that we weren't.. why would you call them out for that? the strong opinions have been whether they SHOULD trade him or not

I'm sure that they've talked to several teams.. as they have several other players

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[quote=SBXVII;690653]Oh yeah where are all the Redskins are not trading AH fans? You know who you are. You were the ones saying that Shanahan denies shopping AH. That it was all BS and the Skins were keeping AH. You know who you are. This is for you....

[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/20/titans-redskins-have-talked-haynesworth/"]Titans, Redskins have talked Haynesworth | ProFootballTalk.com[/URL][/quote]

Not sure who you are calling out exactly but Adam Schefter yesterday basically stuck to his guns and said the Skins probably won't be trading AH. He said anything could happen and he could be proven wrong, but right now he doesn't think it's going to happen.

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The transaction processing plant known as the New York Jets' front office remains open for business with the NFL draft starting Thursday night.

Rich Cimini, for ESPNNewYork.com, writes the Jets are shopping perennial Pro Bowl guard Alan Faneca

CALL NOW AND GET THIS DONE!!!!!!!!!! THEN DRAFT OKUNG AND SIGN ADAMS.

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;690846]The transaction processing plant known as the New York Jets' front office remains open for business with the NFL draft starting Thursday night.

Rich Cimini, for ESPNNewYork.com, writes the Jets are shopping perennial Pro Bowl guard Alan Faneca

CALL NOW AND GET THIS DONE!!!!!!!!!! THEN DRAFT OKUNG AND SIGN ADAMS.[/quote]

The rumor is that Faneca, with a large salary, will get cut after the draft. We may be able to get him for free (i.e., no trade).

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[quote=SBXVII;690653]Oh yeah where are all the Redskins are not trading AH fans? You know who you are. You were the ones saying that Shanahan denies shopping AH. That it was all BS and the Skins were keeping AH. You know who you are. This is for you....

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/20/titans-redskins-have-talked-haynesworth/]Titans, Redskins have talked Haynesworth | ProFootballTalk.com[/url][/quote]

So you believe anything the TMZ.com of football says?

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[quote=Ruhskins;690867]So you believe anything the TMZ.com of football says?[/quote]

[B][U]Stuff Ruhskins hates[/U][/B]
Sam Bradford
PFT

Lol did I miss anything :D

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[quote=Dirtbag359;690885][B][U]Stuff Ruhskins hates[/U][/B]
Sam Bradford
PFT

Lol did I miss anything :D[/quote]

He has a point about TMZ and PFT.

You've gotta be naive (or a gossip-seeking woman) to believe those sites.




We don't need Bradford either! :D




In other news, seems like Haynesworth may go for only a 3rd-rounder. I hope he has to pay some of his guaranteed money back or we'll be losing a ton.
[quote]
[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=2636]Albert Haynesworth[/url]

The Titans have been in discussions with the Redskins about Albert Haynesworth "leading up to" the draft.
The report is from the Nashville Tennessean, though it was tucked matter-of-factly into a Haynesworth blog post. Beat writer Jim Wyatt believes the chances of a Haynesworth trade are increasing, and Tuesday's Adam Carriker acquisition could be the impetus the Redskins need to pull the trigger. The Titans don't seem likely to overpay, so a third-rounder could be enough to get it done.
[B]Source:[/B] [URL="http://blogs.tennessean.com/titans/2010/04/20/haynesworth-trade-would-buck-trend/"]Nashville Tennessean [/URL]
[/quote]

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This is a bit off-topic, but if there is no CBA extension, there won't be a draft in 2011. So what happens if we trade Haynesworth for a 3rd in 2010 and a 2nd in 2011? do we just not get the pick? or would we get the pick in the first year that the draft returned?
I guess the same principle would apply to the McNabb trade. If there's no draft next year, do we ever have to give the eagles another pick?

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[quote=Ruhskins;690867]So you believe anything the TMZ.com of football says?[/quote]

its not like PFT just made this up. pretty much every media outlet has said the skins are talking to the titans about Haynesworth. why are you just criticizing PFT and not all of the rest?

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One more day before draft day, the shit is about to hit the fan!! Put on those seat belts and enjoy the ride!!!

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;690902]This is a bit off-topic, but if there is no CBA extension, there won't be a draft in 2011. So what happens if we trade Haynesworth for a 3rd in 2010 and a 2nd in 2011? do we just not get the pick? or would we get the pick in the first year that the draft returned?
I guess the same principle would apply to the McNabb trade. If there's no draft next year, do we ever have to give the eagles another pick?[/quote]

the draft is guaranteed for next year.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;690905]its not like PFT just made this up. pretty much every media outlet has said the skins are talking to the titans about Haynesworth. why are you just criticizing PFT and not all of the rest?[/quote]

when you look at ALOT of the reports, they stem from PFT or JLC, both of whom, as has been discussed a ton, are notorious in the way the present the information. It's a simple media spin cycle, and the reality gets washed out of the picture.

Matty summed it up very well in the other thread.

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[quote=Buster;690890]
In other news, seems like Haynesworth may go for only a 3rd-rounder. I hope he has to pay some of his guaranteed money back or we'll be losing a ton.[/quote]
Pure opinion from his former city's paper.. I mean who knows if it could happen, but if it was going to I'm sure that we could've gotten a 3rd from somebody already

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I'm sure the Titans would love to steal him for a 3rd but we're not going to give him up on the cheap. It's gonna have to be a legit offer.

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[quote=Buster;690890]He has a point about TMZ and PFT.

You've gotta be naive (or a gossip-seeking woman) to believe those sites.




We don't need Bradford either! :D




In other news, seems like Haynesworth may go for only a 3rd-rounder. I hope he has to pay some of his guaranteed money back or we'll be losing a ton.[/quote]

Not sure why you knock PFT all the time and at the same time look at rotoworld.com as gospel

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[quote=Mattyk;690928]I'm sure the Titans would love to steal him for a 3rd but we're not going to give him up on the cheap. It's gonna have to be a legit offer.[/quote]

Lions would have a much better chance offering their third. It's early enough that you could argue it being similar to a late second round pick sort of like how the Eagles are arguing they got a late first for McNabb.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;690935]Lions would have a much better chance offering their third. It's early enough that you could argue it being similar to a late second round pick sort of like how the Eagles are arguing they got a late first for McNabb.[/quote]


The Eagles saying they got a late first is stupid. They got an early second.

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[quote=SmootSmack;690933]Not sure why you knock PFT all the time and at the same time look at rotoworld.com as gospel[/quote]
same parent company too heh.. though roto has some good stuff outside of the speculative posts

dang I always find out news from your usertext

RIP Guru

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[quote=SmootSmack;690933]Not sure why you knock PFT all the time and at the same time look at rotoworld.com as gospel[/quote]

Not really, but they are a convenient place for news from all over and they DO always provide a link to their sources...instead of using "unnamed sources" like PFT.

Please don't tell us you're defending PFT. :laughing2

They've earned their reputation.