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[quote=skinsfaninok;1194239]‘So grateful that I’m out of there’: After signing with the Giants, defensive tackle A.J. Francis says the Redskins bungled his release, 'don't care about who can actually play football' and have a racist logo

BAHAHAHAHA Someone is ass hurt, what a loser. He sucks anyway[/quote]

he is a camp body ,nothing more.

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[quote=Chico23231;1194208]gotta spell it out for G1 folks. New York Times...that's who did the story. Their history with anything Redskins related has been about the name and how they promote the faux outrage.[/quote]

Chico man ,you're reaching here.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1194238]How did Verlander land that???[/quote]

He is a professional athlete

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1194239]‘So grateful that I’m out of there’: After signing with the Giants, defensive tackle A.J. Francis says the Redskins bungled his release, 'don't care about who can actually play football' and have a racist logo

BAHAHAHAHA Someone is ass hurt, what a loser. He sucks anyway[/quote]

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[quote=Giantone;1194206]Some of these girls make ...maybe 50$ a game. They do deserve more than that if you want them to represent your team in a professional manor.As I said I just don't think there is a need for "cheerleaders " in pro football.[/quote]

I have no problem with them fighting for a larger share of the pie. They are underpaid for the hours they put in.

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[quote=mooby;1194258]I have no problem with them fighting for a larger share of the pie. They are underpaid for the hours they put in.[/quote]

$50 seems really low...and an outlier. Is there any honest numbers out there? Or just ones given to get a response such as this?


Simply put, find a new job and know your worth.

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So has anyone heard anything more about Ryan Grant or Bashaud Breeland after their failed physicals? I am hoping one if not both wind up back with the Skins.

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[quote=Chico23231;1194261]$50 seems really low...and an outlier. Is there any honest numbers out there? Or just ones given to get a response such as this?


Simply put, find a new job and know your worth.[/quote]
2015 link.
[URL="https://www.totalsportek.com/news/nfl-cheerleader-salaries-2015/"]https://www.totalsportek.com/news/nfl-cheerleader-salaries-2015/[/URL]

The $50 number looks like the match fee, then there is hourly pay.

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[quote=Redskins247;1194263]So has anyone heard anything more about Ryan Grant or Bashaud Breeland after their failed physicals? I am hoping one if not both wind up back with the Skins.[/quote]

Grant signed with Indy and Bree is still recovering and a free agent. Teams waiting to see how he heals...fairly serious infection.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1194264]2015 link.
[URL="https://www.totalsportek.com/news/nfl-cheerleader-salaries-2015/"]https://www.totalsportek.com/news/nfl-cheerleader-salaries-2015/[/URL]

The $50 number looks like the match fee, then there is hourly pay.[/quote]

still don't see $50 on 3 year old numbers. And the lower tier seems to be not for performing cheerleaders but the backups, supporting.

Still I think they should get a bump...not much more

Again, simply put, you have choices. That's whats great about this country.

I bet a lot of these women really enjoy it and is not doing this to pay the bills. Just a hunch...

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[quote=Redskins247;1194263]So has anyone heard anything more about Ryan Grant or Bashaud Breeland after their failed physicals? I am hoping one if not both wind up back with the Skins.[/quote]

It doesn't look like Redskins is interested in bringing Breeland back, according to this article. [url=http://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/3-questions-redskins-offseason-workouts-get-underway]3 questions for the Redskins as offseason workouts get underway | NBC Sports Washington[/url]

It makes sense; there were some rumbling about issues with Breeland and coaches, his lack of motivation and whatever else. I personally liked him and I hoped we would resign him to a reasonable contract but obviously Redskins doesn't see him as worthy enough to resign.

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Guys like Bree and Dez appear to have to settle for vet min, at this point. I thought Grant signed somewhere?

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[quote=Chico23231;1194266]still don't see $50 on 3 year old numbers. And the lower tier seems to be not for performing cheerleaders but the backups, supporting.

Still I think they should get a bump...not much more

Again, simply put, you have choices. That's whats great about this country.

I bet a lot of these women really enjoy it and is not doing this to pay the bills. Just a hunch...[/quote]

I was posting that to semi-agree with you. $50 was the baseline pay for social events, then hourly pay on top.

It seems absolutely true that the women that choose to be cheerleaders understand that their beauty and sex appeal is a part of the job.

That said, there are still lines and boundaries that need to be enforced to protect their safety, and if anyone in the Skins organization put them in positions beyond those boundaries, then there ought to be discipline handed down.

I don't think the NYT story is an unbiased opinion, but it does raise concerns, that should be fact checked.

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Women forced into uncomfortable situations when involved with men with power, what a shocker. Anyone questioning the possibility of this story being legitimate is seriously delusional.

Not a stretch to think this could blow up in the NFL’s face, I guarantee behind the scenes they are scrambling to get ahead of it.

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[quote=MTK;1194272]Women forced into uncomfortable situations when involved with men with power, what a shocker. Anyone questioning the possibility of this story being legitimate is seriously delusional.

Not a stretch to think this could blow up in the NFL’s face, I guarantee behind the scenes they are scrambling to get ahead of it.[/quote]

Im certainly questioning the facts and not the possibility. Conveniently, stories are now appearing during the me too movement that will attempt to take advantage of this electric environment. This happens. Exaggeration happens so we can put this in a box and sell it as something else (my money is clearly here).

Its a clear fact the NYT has a major bone to pick over a fucking name. There is an agenda with past articles as proof. Lets not dismiss this fact.

Im positive the front office is freaking out because of me too movement. I expect a scapegoat. If there was something done inappropriately, by all means the org should take responsibility.....

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[quote=Redskins247;1194263]So has anyone heard anything more about Ryan Grant or Bashaud Breeland after their failed physicals? I am hoping one if not both wind up back with the Skins.[/quote]

I am still very curious to see what happens with Hankins, you have to think he definitely lost us as a potential landing spot.

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Interesting article suggesting that we should sign Breeland to a VFA tender before May 8th to get an improved compensatory pick next year.

[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2018/5/4/17314540/what-should-the-redskins-do-about-bashaud-breeland[/url]


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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1194275]Interesting article suggesting that we should sign Breeland to a VFA tender before May 8th to get an improved compensatory pick next year.

[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2018/5/4/17314540/what-should-the-redskins-do-about-bashaud-breeland[/url]


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wow great find. Plus the Skins were interested in adding another CB, so worst case Bree comes back and competes at a very low salary.

Skins should totally do it.

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[quote=MTK;1194272]Women forced into uncomfortable situations when involved with men with power, what a shocker. Anyone questioning the possibility of this story being legitimate is seriously delusional.

Not a stretch to think this could blow up in the NFL’s face, I guarantee behind the scenes they are scrambling to get ahead of it.[/quote]

Up until this morning, I was right there with you, but two of the cheerleaders present at the event told a different story on the Today Show

[url]https://www.today.com/news/ex-redskins-cheerleaders-say-they-weren-t-pimped-out-2013-t128367[/url]

It is entirely possible that people can witness the same events and have completely different perceptions about what happened. Its also possible that one side or the other is being less than truthful.

I'm definitely more skeptical now than I was when the story was first reported. Bruce said they were doing an investigation. Given the scrutiny this type of story generally produces, I'm hopeful it will be a thorough one and more information will be forthcoming in the future.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1194280]Up until this morning, I was right there with you, but two of the cheerleaders present at the event told a different story on the Today Show

[url]https://www.today.com/news/ex-redskins-cheerleaders-say-they-weren-t-pimped-out-2013-t128367[/url]

It is entirely possible that people can witness the same events and have completely different perceptions about what happened. Its also possible that one side or the other is being less than truthful.

[B]I'm definitely more skeptical now than I was when the story was first reported[/B]. Bruce said they were doing an investigation. Given the scrutiny this type of story generally produces, I'm hopeful it will be a thorough one and more information will be forthcoming in the future.[/quote]

The media knows getting an quick, emotional response serves them best than laying out an even story where the readers decides. Post-2000 Journalism.

NYT is fully taking advantage of the me too movement environment.

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[quote=Chico23231;1194276]wow great find. Plus the Skins were interested in adding another CB, so worst case Bree comes back and competes at a very low salary.

Skins should totally do it.[/quote]

while i agree it would be a good move - he seems to be a fucking cry baby - the type that if healthy we know will play - but someone who would get snippy over not starting, or someone who would just loaf all the time and ride the bench for a pay day -- i dunno, you would hope not, but, his past behavior tells me otherwise. So while I think they should do it, I hope they dont expect much out of the move lol

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[quote=Meks;1194286]while i agree it would be a good move - he seems to be a fucking cry baby - the type that if healthy we know will play - but someone who would get snippy over not starting, or someone who would just loaf all the time and ride the bench for a pay day -- i dunno, you would hope not, but, his past behavior tells me otherwise. So while I think they should do it, I hope they dont expect much out of the move lol[/quote]

Dude...Im there with you. But we were looking for CB in draft, and if one in particular would have fallen in the second round, we would have drafted him.


So it does fill a need...but I think the potential for a trade is great with his low cap number.

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The move allows them to trade him on a one year roughly 2 mil deal. That's a steal for a good corner. If he doesn't want to be here or they don't want him, it shouldn't be difficult to find a suitor once he can pass a physical. [QUOTE=Meks;1194286]while i agree it would be a good move - he seems to be a fucking cry baby - the type that if healthy we know will play - but someone who would get snippy over not starting, or someone who would just loaf all the time and ride the bench for a pay day -- i dunno, you would hope not, but, his past behavior tells me otherwise. So while I think they should do it, I hope they dont expect much out of the move lol[/QUOTE]

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[quote=Chico23231;1194273]Im certainly questioning the facts and not the possibility. Conveniently, stories are now appearing during the me too movement that will attempt to take advantage of this electric environment. This happens. Exaggeration happens so we can put this in a box and sell it as something else (my money is clearly here).

Its a clear fact the NYT has a major bone to pick over a fucking name. There is an agenda with past articles as proof. Lets not dismiss this fact.

Im positive the front office is freaking out because of me too movement. I expect a scapegoat. [B]If there was something done inappropriately, by all means the org should take responsibility[/B].....[/quote]

I agree. If they were acting inappropriately, punishment is deserved. Whether or not that's the case is not up to me to decide.

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Kudos to both of you pulling the string and turning on the lightbulb in my brain that wasnt on in regard to the possibility of trading him, as well. Lol right on tho

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Shawn Lauvao @Uce_Lauvao has agreed to terms with the Washington Redskins @Redskins

yuck

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1194295]Shawn Lauvao @Uce_Lauvao has agreed to terms with the Washington Redskins @Redskins



yuck[/QUOTE]



Doesn’t hurt to take him to camp

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Lauvao is solid depth on the Oline...he isn't starting material

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[quote=MTK;1194296]Doesn’t hurt to take him to camp[/quote]

indeed. someone who knows the system and can provide some help for the younger minds at camp. Not a terrible move.

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I'm fine with bringing Lauvao back as a camp guy to see if he has anything left to offer.

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We need bodies at LG. Let him come in and compete, it's better than just counting on Kujo.

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I have been waiting for that man to be replaced for so long. Fine, have him coach up and backup Welsh or Kouandjo or whoever, but If no-one can beat him out for the job to start the season I'll be pissed.

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[quote=Schneed10;1194303]We need bodies at LG. Let him come in and compete, it's better than just counting on Kujo.[/quote]

I doubt they are counting on Kojo. There is Ty N, Welsh, and more. And they could find a center and move Roullier to guard.

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[quote=WillH;1194304]I have been waiting for that man to be replaced for so long. Fine, have him coach up and backup Welsh or Kouandjo or whoever, but If no-one can beat him out for the job to start the season I'll be pissed.

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He is the (ready for a throwback?!) Warrick Holdman of LGs.

Someone we trotted out for WAY too long before we finally decided to invest in the position.

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God I hope TY can play LG this yr

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[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnathan_Hankins[/url]

"Hankins was born in Dearborn Heights, Michigan. He began his high school football career as a 255-pound [B]offensive guard [/B]in his freshman year."


Its just fate...lets see what he's got. Get on it Bruce!

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1194308][url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnathan_Hankins[/url]



"Hankins was born in Dearborn Heights, Michigan. He began his high school football career as a 255-pound [B]offensive guard [/B]in his freshman year."





Its just fate...lets see what he's got. Get on it Bruce![/QUOTE]



The dude was 255 as a high school freshman. Whoa.


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[quote=calia;1194309]The dude was 255 as a high school freshman. Whoa.


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Sounds about right, I was around 250 as a freshman.

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[quote=Schneed10;1194303]We need bodies at LG. Let him come in and compete, it's better than just counting on Kujo.[/quote]

Can't find details of his contract, do we have an idea ? The fact that he wasn't signed by anybody else must have allowed us to sign it on the cheap, doesn't it?

I assume we're not spending big on him, and not guaranteeing much of it either, so yeah, we'll have competition at LG, which is good, I hope Sean Welsh wows every body and wins the job.

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[QUOTE=calia;1194309]The dude was 255 as a high school freshman. Whoa.


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I wrestled in high school so I remember my weight. 99 lbs freshman year. Lol. My daughter is 11 going into 6th grade and just weighed in at 102. God i was a little shit!


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