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[quote=mooby;1055576]If he is going to be OLB coach, does this mean we're going to have another coach for the inside backers?[/quote]


London Fletcher. :D

I do like that Gruden and Allen seem to be supporting Haslett since they're keeping him, by getting him the help he wants.

Despite Haslett's run here so far under Shanahan, he has a good track record and is respected league wide. I heard on 980 last week that another team actually contacted the Skins about interviewing Haslett for their DC job right after the season ended. No mention of who.


On offense...

Cooley had huge praise for McVay and his age (27) is a little scary but Coach Gruden says he's handling the playcalling, so the leap from position coach to coordinator won't be too huge of a leap hopefully.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1055618]London Fletcher. :D

I do like that Gruden and Allen seem to be supporting Haslett since they're keeping him, by getting him the help he wants.

Despite Haslett's run here so far under Shanahan, he has a good track record and is respected league wide. I heard on 980 last week that another team actually contacted the Skins about interviewing Haslett for their DC job right after the season ended. No mention of who.


On offense...

Cooley had huge praise for McVay and his age (27) is a little scary but Coach Gruden says he's handling the playcalling, so the leap from position coach to coordinator won't be too huge of a leap hopefully.[/quote]

I think Gruden is handling this the right way. Obviously McVay is well respected, so promoting him but not placing the playcalling responsibility on him right away is the right way to do it. That way, Gruden is not having to "do it all" in terms of being an OC as well as the head coach. I also like that since the 'skins are keeping Haslett on as DC (even though I'm not thrilled about it) surround him with the coaches he wants. Hopefully they'll also get the players he wants/needs in the offseason, then we can truly see if Haslett fails as a DC, then we know it's all on him.

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[quote=HailGreen28;1055611]in blocking of the move you mean is there some union rules were the skins couldn't just demote Haslett?[/quote]

no, if he is an assistant head coach, then a team that wanted to hire Haslett (if there are any) would have to be offering him a HC position, or the Redskins could decline the other team an opportunity to interview Haslett.

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^ correct and if they want to go after Guenther They could offer the DC job otherwise it's a lateral move.

Looks like Zimmer got the Job in Minn
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/15/vikings-hire-mike-zimmer-as-next-head-coach/]Vikings hire Mike Zimmer as next head coach | ProFootballTalk[/url]

So G will be promoted to DC in Cincy.

Fletcher as a coach is an interesting idea. Especially since his comments about the coaching staff on twitter.

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Pretty sure Fletcher said he isn't interested in coaching. He'll have plenty of TV opportunities.

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I think Fletcher would be good on TV as well as a coach. He did so much on the field coaching as it was, and all of the actual coaches referred to that ability with him. I wonder whether his competitive nature will make him want to get into coaching at some point. I love the guy; I would love to see him have some involvement with the team going forward.

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[quote=mooby;1055576]If he is going to be OLB coach, does this mean we're going to have another coach for the inside backers?[/quote]

To me, the more interesting question is whether this suggests that we're sticking with a 3-4 defense (or is there really going to be a coach for just two positions in a 4-3)? I would be curious to know whether folks have any insights here. Are we going to shift to a 4-3 and then go get personnel suited to it, or is Gruden going to see whether the 3-4 or 4-3 is likely to be best with the personnel we have? So in other words (and channeling my inner geek): 4-3 or not 4-3, that is the question.

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Gruden said at his first presser that he's a fan of the 3-4, I don't see why we would switch.

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He said it was a challenge to coach against the 3-4 also.

Plus, we did spend 4 years gathering 3-4 personnel. While most of the guys did play 4-3 in college, why have to revamp the entire D again?

The 3-4 scheme is not the problem. Our inability to gather a full defensive roster was. We never built a secondary and our D-line has looked good in Week 1 on paper but we never had the depth to survive a whole season on the line. The only solid part of the defense were the linebackers and now we have to replace Fletcher.

Keep the 3-4 and plug the holes. I really think Haslett could do at least an acceptable if not great job if he actually had players on the field. When Reed Doughty has been one of the keys to our defense for a few years, that's a bad situation.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1055674]He said it was a challenge to coach against the 3-4 also.

Plus, we did spend 4 years gathering 3-4 personnel. While most of the guys did play 4-3 in college, why have to revamp the entire D again?

The 3-4 scheme is not the problem. Our inability to gather a full defensive roster was. We never built a secondary and our D-line has looked good in Week 1 on paper but we never had the depth to survive a whole season on the line. The only solid part of the defense were the linebackers and now we have to replace Fletcher.

Keep the 3-4 and plug the holes. I really think Haslett could do at least an acceptable if not great job if he actually had players on the field. When Reed Doughty has been one of the keys to our defense for a few years, that's a bad situation.[/quote]

Yeah 34 or 43 doesn't matter if you don't have the talent to begin with. Never understood why folks get so hung up on that. For years it seems all we heard was why don't we switch to the 34, we finally do and everyone wants to switch back now.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1055534]I have beating the Ken Norton Jr. drum for a couple months now. But I guess we are going to have to watch Ole Jimmy look silly on the sidelines for another year.[/quote]

I was Ken Norton III linebacker coach when he was playing pop-warner and I was a senior in high school… talk about pressure. Would be a hire I'd be happy about.

[QUOTE=Mattyk;1055677]Yeah 34 or 43 doesn't matter if you don't have the talent to begin with. Never understood why folks get so hung up on that. For years it seems all we heard was why don't we switch to the 34, we finally do and everyone wants to switch back now.[/QUOTE]


Exactly. The key now is getting the rite personnel for the 3-4. If that's what Gruden wants to run of course. Sounds like he does.

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I like it....... proof is in the pudding!

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Special teams coach is here

[url=http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/01/15/report-ben-kotwica-hired-from-jets-to-be-redskins-special-teams-coach/]Ben Kotwica Hired as Redskins Special Teams Coach « CBS DC[/url]

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1055686]Special teams coach is here

[url=http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/01/15/report-ben-kotwica-hired-from-jets-to-be-redskins-special-teams-coach/]Ben Kotwica Hired as Redskins Special Teams Coach « CBS DC[/url][/quote]

Good news. I like that we're actually getting coaches here that coached the position before (Baker) and are also experienced and well established (Kotwica).

What an amazing concept.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/4869/redskins-hire-ben-kotwica-from-jets]Redskins hire Ben Kotwica from Jets - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url]

Can't be any worse than what we just had.

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Whats the news on Haslett? Is he going to be the DC?

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I'd bring back Bill Musgrave for QB coach.

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WR and Running backs coach next.

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I dont know whether adding defensive asst/positional coaching positions before naming your DC is the right move or not.

But it does seem odd. I would think the DC would want to pick his own staff or at least have major imput ... maybe the DC is in house (Has or morris) just hasnt been named yet.

It makes me think Gruden intended on keeping haslett as the DC but when he got here people in the organization told him to wait and think about it bc 1)the fanbase could get pissed if he is retained as the DC or 2) allen or DS dont want him to be the DC or 3) a lil of both.

If morris or haslett is named the DC I wont like it. the defense under Has has been bad and the secondary under morris was our biggest weakness this past season.

i dont know what they are doing, it could work out or it couldnt ... but this is a strange way of doing things.

not going through the process of interviewing all the potential candidates and throwing ourselves at the first legit candidate to interview seems .... like the skins of old in not letting a FA leave without a signed contract.

now naming an "outside" linebacker coach?

havent named a DC?

i trust allen to an extent ...... but this has been an odd, almost backwards process .. when we were told they were going to go through the process thoroughly and properly and it is going to take some time.

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[quote=over the mountain;1055703]I dont know whether adding defensive asst/positional coaching positions before naming your DC is the right move or not.

But it does seem odd. I would think the DC would want to pick his own staff or at least have major imput ... maybe the DC is in house (Has or morris) just hasnt been named yet.

It makes me think Gruden intended on keeping haslett as the DC but when he got here people in the organization told him to wait and think about it bc 1)the fanbase could get pissed if he is retained as the DC or 2) allen or DS dont want him to be the DC or 3) a lil of both.

If morris or haslett is named the DC I wont like it. the defense under Has has been bad and the secondary under morris was our biggest weakness this past season.

i dont know what they are doing, it could work out or it couldnt ... but this is a strange way of doing things.

not going through the process of interviewing all the potential candidates and throwing ourselves at the first legit candidate to interview seems .... like the skins of old in not letting a FA leave without a signed contract.

now naming an "outside" linebacker coach?

havent named a DC?

i trust allen to an extent ...... but this has been an odd, almost backwards process .. when we were told they were going to go through the process thoroughly and properly and it is going to take some time.[/quote]

I imagine, if you interview 2-4 possible DC's and they all list guy x in the top 3 of their lower staff hires, then you would feel comfortable hiring him ahead of the final hire. Don't know that that is the case, but I think it likely that he got good marks from any candidates they are looking at.

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Has is still under contract, so he's still the DC until something changes. If it even does.

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[quote=Mattyk;1055707]Has is still under contract, so he's still the DC until something changes. If it even does.[/quote]

Yeah, given the way things are unfolding, it would appear that Has is here to stay as DC. They're just not publicizing this fact.

[QUOTE=Lotus;1055708]Yeah, given the way things are unfolding, it would appear that Has is here to stay as DC. They're just not publicizing this fact.[/QUOTE]

Yeah if he wasn't he would have been gone by now.

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[quote=Lotus;1055708]Yeah, given the way things are unfolding, it would appear that Has is here to stay as DC. They're just not publicizing this fact.[/quote]

Yeah, Has and Morris appear to be safe. What the exact coaching configuration will be is yet to be seen.

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Stuff on Kotwica:

[url=http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2013/06/jets_coach_ben_kotwica_an_iraq.html]Jets coach Ben Kotwica, Iraq veteran, is a leader on any field of battle | NJ.com[/url]

[url=http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2014/01/jets_season_grades_special_teams.html]Jets season grades: Special teams | NJ.com[/url]

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1055711]Stuff on Kotwica:

[url=http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2013/06/jets_coach_ben_kotwica_an_iraq.html]Jets coach Ben Kotwica, Iraq veteran, is a leader on any field of battle | NJ.com[/url]

[url=http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2014/01/jets_season_grades_special_teams.html]Jets season grades: Special teams | NJ.com[/url][/quote]

can't say that the season grades article is particularly exciting.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1055714]can't say that the season grades article is particularly exciting.[/quote]

Better then what we had this year for damn sure

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[quote=WillH;1055715]Better then what we had this year for damn sure[/quote]

let's hope the bar is higher than that.

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I don't think Has is going anywhere, we might as well get over it.

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As long as we are raiding the Jets special teams, we should pick up John Hall and Chad Morton.

Oh, wait...

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[quote=Lotus;1055718]As long as we are raiding the Jets special teams, we should pick up [B]John Hall[/B] and Chad Morton.

Oh, wait...[/quote]

I don't miss those days.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1055622]no, if he is an assistant head coach, then a team that wanted to hire Haslett (if there are any) would have to be offering him a HC position, or the Redskins could decline the other team an opportunity to interview Haslett.[/quote]Thanks guys.

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[quote=Lotus;1055718]As long as we are raiding the Jets special teams, we should pick up John Hall and Chad Morton.

Oh, wait...[/quote]

Lmfao :laughing2

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Very happy to see KO back

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Coaching staff is already much improved.

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Like gruden, not sure why hasletts still around, excited with that earnest byner May coach rbs again