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[quote=CrustyRedskin;1010661][url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9336790/ex-buffalo-bills-qb-jim-kelly-battling-cancer-jaw]Ex-Buffalo Bills QB Jim Kelly battling cancer of the jaw - ESPN[/url][/quote]

Damn...wonder if he too got it "Michael Douglas" style

Hope for a full recovery for him

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[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/page/greatestcoach9/greatest-coaches-nfl-history-joe-gibbs]Greatest Coaches in NFL History - Joe Gibbs - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;1010666][url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/page/greatestcoach9/greatest-coaches-nfl-history-joe-gibbs]Greatest Coaches in NFL History - Joe Gibbs - ESPN[/url][/quote]

Good stuff, would like to see the voting cards though. How did your boy Schetfer get one?

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Top 10 for Gibbs, I can't argue with that.

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Yup. Didn't think he would crack top 5. Halas, Lombardi, Brown, Walsh, Noll, Shula, Belichick. (Unlike all of those, of course, he didn't have a HOF QB - or two (Walsh) - to build around). Didn't see him cracking those. Each had either longer tenure or more championships.

9th best in 80+ years of the NFL and probably about a 1,000 or so head coaches is nothing to shake a stick at.

What are folks top 5? Mine:
1. Halas
2. Brown
3. Lombardi
4. Walsh
5. Belichick

I don't see how you can have anyone other than Halas, Brown & Lombardi as your top three. Halas and Brown fundamentally redesigned they game. Between the T-formation and coaches calling the plays, the created the game of football as we know it and won a gazillion games along the way. Lombardi ... they named the damn trophy after him. 'Nuff said.

Never was a big Walsh fan, but, in terms of innovation, I grudgingly give him credit.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1010666][url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/page/greatestcoach9/greatest-coaches-nfl-history-joe-gibbs]Greatest Coaches in NFL History - Joe Gibbs - ESPN[/url][/quote]

Damn I wish the Skins would have played anybody in 83 but the Raiders....:puke::Smoker:

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RIP Deacon Jones.

[url=http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=9340299]NFL NFL legend Deacon Jones dies at 74 - ESPN[/url]

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[url=http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/Morning-Buzz/2013/06/04/Verizon.aspx]Verizon, NFL Close To Unveiling Groundbreaking $1B Extension - SportsBusiness Daily | SportsBusiness Journal | SportsBusiness Daily Global[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;1010776][url=http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/Morning-Buzz/2013/06/04/Verizon.aspx]Verizon, NFL Close To Unveiling Groundbreaking $1B Extension - SportsBusiness Daily | SportsBusiness Journal | SportsBusiness Daily Global[/url][/quote]

That oughta give us salary cap space to sign Griffin!!!

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[quote=SmootSmack;1010776][url=http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/Morning-Buzz/2013/06/04/Verizon.aspx]Verizon, NFL Close To Unveiling Groundbreaking $1B Extension - SportsBusiness Daily | SportsBusiness Journal | SportsBusiness Daily Global[/url][/quote]

huge deal on the heels of the Microsoft tech deal last week. NFL is setting the sports business trend again, while at the sametime swimming in money.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1010759]RIP Deacon Jones.

[URL="http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=9340299"]NFL NFL legend Deacon Jones dies at 74 - ESPN[/URL][/quote]

Most people don't know he played a year in Washington.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1010759]RIP Deacon Jones.

[url=http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=9340299]NFL NFL legend Deacon Jones dies at 74 - ESPN[/url][/quote]

RIP.




[quote=SmootSmack;1010776][url=http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/Morning-Buzz/2013/06/04/Verizon.aspx]Verizon, NFL Close To Unveiling Groundbreaking $1B Extension - SportsBusiness Daily | SportsBusiness Journal | SportsBusiness Daily Global[/url][/quote]



Somehow, they'll claim they are losing money off this, much like the movie industry does off their films. Hollywood accounting FTL.

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RIP Deacon Jones, what a character he was and one hell of a player.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1010677]Yup. Didn't think he would crack top 5. Halas, Lombardi, Brown, Walsh, Noll, Shula, Belichick. (Unlike all of those, of course, he didn't have a HOF QB - or two (Walsh) - to build around). Didn't see him cracking those. Each had either longer tenure or more championships.

9th best in 80+ years of the NFL and probably about a 1,000 or so head coaches is nothing to shake a stick at.

What are folks top 5? Mine:
1. Halas
2. Brown
3. Lombardi
4. Walsh
5. Belichick

I don't see how you can have anyone other than Halas, Brown & Lombardi as your top three. Halas and Brown fundamentally redesigned they game. Between the T-formation and coaches calling the plays, the created the game of football as we know it and won a gazillion games along the way. Lombardi ... they named the damn trophy after him. 'Nuff said.

Never was a big Walsh fan, but, in terms of innovation, I grudgingly give him credit.[/quote]

Gibbs did it with one good and 2 mediocre QB
's. Walsh, Noll and Belichick each did it with a great QB, Gibbs is equal to those guys and in my opinion better, plus he took them to 4 SB and basically had the Cowboys retire Landry cause he owned him. Screw ESPN!

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1010784]Gibbs did it with one good and 2 mediocre QB
's. Walsh, Noll and Belichick each did it with a great QB, Gibbs is equal to those guys and in my opinion better, plus he took them to 4 SB and basically had the Cowboys retire Landry cause he owned him. Screw ESPN![/quote]

Good point, but the flip side to that argument is that Gibbs also got destroyed in his super bowl loss. Also Walsh, Noll, and Belichick have/had the brains to draft those QBs and stick with them (Gibbs wasn't good at drafting QBs). Also those coaches--specifically Walsh (not sure about Noll and Belichick is TBD) knew when to get rid of QBs, and when they were past their prime. Montana to Young is one great example.

When you're comparing greats with greats, you got to get into the nitpicking of things like that. Gibbs is great, definitely top 10, but I think Shula, Walsh and Noll are much better coaches than him. Belichick you can make an argument for.