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[quote=Lotus;1055363]Interesting read about how Gruden likes to fill out the offensive roster:

[URL="http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/4786/how-jay-gruden-shaped-his-roster"]How Jay Gruden shaped his roster - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/URL][/quote]


I noticed they have Tall WRs

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[quote=NC_Skins;1055264]Schefter isn't going to run some bogus report just because he's buddies with Shanahan. I'm quite positive he wouldn't sacrifice his career for a coach who probably will never be a head coach again in the NFL.

If Schefter is reporting something, it's something from a legit source. Legit source being key here, and I doubt that source is any former coaches that have no knowledge on the situation.[/quote]

I disagree. If Shanahan sends him info, he does not need to validate that info before releasing it. it's simply info from a source he will not name and he is not validating it.

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Just to add insult to injury, they keep the town idiot in Haslett and fired the best coach we had in coach Bobby Turner. This guy has been a miracle worker, for years. How stupid is that.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;1055379]Just to add insult to injury, they keep the town idiot in Haslett and fired the best coach we had in coach Bobby Turner. This guy has been a miracle worker, for years. How stupid is that.[/quote]

Complete and utter speculation on my part, I think the FO liked what Turner did with the RB's and wanted to keep him in spite of his long and substantial ties to Shanny, but that, once the leaks kept on coming, all eyes focused on him. IMHO, he was just the final purge in the night of long knives.

As for Haslett, he and Gruden worked together before. Same can't be said of Gruden and Turner.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;1055379]Just to add insult to injury, they keep the town idiot in Haslett and fired the best coach we had in coach Bobby Turner. This guy has been a miracle worker, for years. How stupid is that.[/quote]

Beat reporters said this was a foregone conclusion once Shanny was fired. He's a Shanahan guy, has been for years and years. Great coach, sorry to lose him.

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Yeah Turner was a Shanny guy 100%.

Besides, isn't this a good sign that Gruden is making some of his own staff decisions?

Weren't some people complaining that we retained too may coaches or were worried that Gruden wasn't going to be able to make his own choices?

[QUOTE=Mattyk;1055397]Yeah Turner was a Shanny guy 100%.

Besides, isn't this a good sign that Gruden is making some of his own staff decisions?

Weren't some people complaining that we retained too may coaches or were worried that Gruden wasn't going to be able to make his own choices?[/QUOTE]

I wish he cleaned most

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[quote=Mattyk;1055397]Yeah Turner was a Shanny guy 100%.

[B]Besides, isn't this a good sign that Gruden is making some of his own staff decisions?[/B][/quote]Yes he was and yes it is.

[quote=Mattyk;1055397]Weren't some people complaining that we retained too may coaches or were worried that Gruden wasn't going to be able to make his own choices?[/quote]Ayuh, they were, about ten pages or so ago.

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[quote=Mattyk;1055397]Yeah Turner was a Shanny guy 100%.

Besides, isn't this a good sign that Gruden is making some of his own staff decisions?

Weren't some people complaining that we retained too may coaches or were worried that Gruden wasn't going to be able to make his own choices?[/quote]
Turner was retained by the Broncos, until Shanny went to Washington. Thats why I thought we were going to keep him. My guess is he probably wanted out. He is thought of as the best running back coach in the NFL.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/60491/bobby-turner-richard-hightower-let-go]Bobby Turner, Richard Hightower let go - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url]

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Well looks like the Lions job wasn't as desirable as we all thought, good thing we locked up Gruden before the lions did.

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

[quote=Mattyk;1055397]Yeah Turner was a Shanny guy 100%.

Besides, isn't this a good sign that Gruden is making some of his own staff decisions?

Weren't some people complaining that we retained too may coaches or were worried that Gruden wasn't going to be able to make his own choices?[/quote]
.........Sure
It is really Dan through a carefully veiled effort

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Earnest Byner back as RB coach

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^^ Which means LaCanfora and not Schefter is now the man inside the coaches' room.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1055512]^^ Which means LaCanfora and not Schefter is now the man inside the coaches' room.[/quote]

Good for the WP too. ;)

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With Ray Horton granted the opportunity to interview elsewhere for lateral moves, I have to wonder if Gruden has him on his radar. He has to know him to some degree given that he coached against him twice last year.

Anyone have inside info if he gets an interview here?

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1055512]^^ Which means LaCanfora and not Schefter is now the man inside the coaches' room.[/quote]

Very true. He was an 'inside/unnamed source' before Shanny even knew where Redskins Park was.

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[quote=mbedner3420;1055518]With Ray Horton granted the opportunity to interview elsewhere for lateral moves, I have to wonder if Gruden has him on his radar. He has to know him to some degree given that he coached against him twice last year.

Anyone have inside info if he gets an interview here?[/quote]

Horton would be a great choice.

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McVay is OC, according to confirmation by Keim.

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I would like to have a guy like Ken Norton Jr be our Defensive Coordinator. He is nasty and I have heard him talk, sounds like an intelligent guy. He runs a 4-3, which makes him a real dark horse. But this is the kind of guy we need coaching our defense.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eJ0r3-mz14]Seattle Seahawks Ken Norton Jr - Setting a Vision - YouTube[/url]

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[quote=mbedner3420;1055525]McVay is OC, according to confirmation by Keim.[/quote]

I also read in the Post the Byner is interviewing for the RB coach position.

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1055522]Horton would be a great choice.[/quote]

You think ? One of the worst RZ defense's in the league

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[quote=T.O.Killa;1055527]I would like to have a guy like Ken Norton Jr be our Defensive Coordinator. He is nasty and I have heard him talk, sounds like an intelligent guy. He runs a 4-3, which makes him a real dark horse. But this is the kind of guy we need coaching our defense.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eJ0r3-mz14]Seattle Seahawks Ken Norton Jr - Setting a Vision - YouTube[/url][/quote]

I have beating the Ken Norton Jr. drum for a couple months now. But I guess we are going to have to watch Ole Jimmy look silly on the sidelines for another year.

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;1055531]You think ? One of the worst RZ defense's in the league[/quote]

All are defensive stats:

Redskins - 18th in YPG allowed, 27th in YPP allowed, 30th in PPG allowed

Browns - 9th in YPG allowed, 3rd in YPP allowed, 23rd in PPG allowed


Considering the current choice seems to be Haslett (Status Quo), yeah Horton would be a good option. Yeah, their red zone defense wasn't great, but comparatively..................

Plus, according to ([url=http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/opponent-red-zone-scoring-pct]NFL Football Stats - NFL Team Opponent Red Zone Scoring Percentage (TD only) on TeamRankings.com[/url]), Cleveland RedZone TD scoring percetage was 64 percent, ours was 63.33. If those two things are equal, wouldn't you want the team that allows less yards (and less red zone trips) overall?

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Headed here maybe?

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/14/bobby-april-hasnt-re-signed-with-the-raiders/]Bobby April hasn’t re-signed with the Raiders | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=FRPLG;1055513]Good for the WP too. ;)[/quote]

Indeed.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1055534]I have beating the Ken Norton Jr. drum for a couple months now. But I guess we are going to have to watch Ole Jimmy look silly on the sidelines for another year.[/quote]

I think it's only a matter of time before Norton gets his chance.

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Just saw on twitter we interviewed Ben Kotwica Special Teams coordinator of the Jets. He has an interesting story. I like the idea of him here.

[url=http://www.newyorkjets.com/team/coaches/ben-kotwica/a40e1ab7-e44c-4753-aeb0-dfbe56cdb54f]New York Jets: Ben Kotwica[/url]

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1055534]I have beating the Ken Norton Jr. drum for a couple months now. But I guess we are going to have to watch Ole Jimmy look silly on the sidelines for another year.[/quote]

Yeah man, that guy coaches those players with passion. Like a Greg Williams or a Rex Ryan. That's what our defense needs.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;1055560]Yeah man, that guy coaches those players with passion. Like a Greg Williams or a Rex Ryan. That's what our defense needs.[/quote]

Yea! We need fire-belly coaches!! Not unemotional retreads. No offense Hasslet. But maybe a little.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1055534]I have beating the Ken Norton Jr. drum for a couple months now. But I guess we are going to have to watch Ole Jimmy look silly on the sidelines for another year.[/quote]

Make that in the booth, not the sidelines.

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It looks like Jay is hiring the coaching staff that Hasslet wanted on defense...

[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/talk/reports-redskins-hire-brian-baker-olb-coach]Reports: Redskins hire Brian Baker as OLB coach | Comcast SportsNet Washington[/url]

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1055545]Headed here maybe?

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/14/bobby-april-hasnt-re-signed-with-the-raiders/]Bobby April hasn’t re-signed with the Raiders | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

Bobby April might be an excellent hire. He has a lot of experience and has seen success...unlike Keith Burns.

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Ray Horton or Jim Haslett as DC? No brainer go sign Horton ASAP as our DC, you know the skins will screw this one and keep hazmat. Horton started his coaching career with the Redskins working under Norv Turner as an assistant DB coach.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1055565]It looks like Jay is hiring the coaching staff that Hasslet wanted on defense...

[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/talk/reports-redskins-hire-brian-baker-olb-coach]Reports: Redskins hire Brian Baker as OLB coach | Comcast SportsNet Washington[/url][/quote]

If he is going to be OLB coach, does this mean we're going to have another coach for the inside backers?

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I think they are waiting to see what happens with Zimmer. Take Paul Guenther as DC and then put Hasslet in a ILB/ Assistant HC position.

It would be smart if the Redskins can steal Scott Turner from the Browns. Josh Gordon blossomed under Scott and he does statistical analysis on every opponent which could be a valuable.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1055602]I think they are waiting to see what happens with Zimmer. Take Paul Guenther as DC and then put Hasslet in a ILB/ Assistant HC position.[/quote] how the heck can you make a position coach (that's under a coordinator) into a assistant head coach at the same time?

maybe a better question is why?

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It is a shuffling of titles. Before he was fired, Bobby Turner was associate head coach/running backs coach.

Just because we don't like Hasslet doesn't mean that the Redskins don't. He is well respected at Redskins Park and has a well documented past relationship with Jay. Selling JH as the DC is a hard sale publicly and a change like this would make everyone happy.

Hasslet can help Jay transition into the Head coaching role. Also the changes are in name only because it stops the blocking of a move.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1055605]It is a shuffling of titles. Before he was fired, Bobby Turner was associate head coach/running backs coach.

Just because we don't like Hasslet doesn't mean that the Redskins don't. He is well respected at Redskins Park and has a well documented past relationship with Jay. Selling JH as the DC is a hard sale publicly and a change like this would make everyone happy.

Hasslet can help Jay transition into the Head coaching role. Also the changes are in name only because it stops the blocking of a move.[/quote]

I suspect you might be right on the money with these moves. Haslett could be a mentor to JG in his early years as an NFL HC and Jay may want him in that role.

I have no problem with Haslett as ILB coach and Asst. HC but I have little confidence in him as DC.

I really doubt that Haslett will be retained as DC for two reasons. First, he's not very good at it. Second, it would be a very unpopular move among Redskins fans.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1055605]It is a shuffling of titles. Before he was fired, Bobby Turner was associate head coach/running backs coach.

Just because we don't like Hasslet doesn't mean that the Redskins don't. He is well respected at Redskins Park and has a well documented past relationship with Jay. Selling JH as the DC is a hard sale publicly and a change like this would make everyone happy.

Hasslet can help Jay transition into the Head coaching role. Also the changes are in name only because it stops the blocking of a move.[/quote] in blocking of the move you mean is there some union rules were the skins couldn't just demote Haslett?