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[quote=Mattyk;780758]Yeah but Orakpo lasting til #13 didn't seem likely either[/quote]

It will take another strong effort from other teams drafting badly to leave Von Miller at #10. Case in point, Al Davis drafts Darius Heyward-Bey at #7 overall. I literally almost shit myself when I saw that on draft day. :lol: That is the big reason that Orakpo was left when our pick came up.

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[quote=IrMitchell;780769]Have you truly not realized this? It was his biggest knock coming out of college also.

He's a great player, in fact our best player.. but lazy.[/quote]

So lazy, in fact, that ESPN festured his now infamous weight-lifting routine at UT. You know, the routine that involves free-weights and over-sized chains. In fact alot of the pre-raft talk was about how he is a gym rat. Sounds lazy to me. The loafer!

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[quote=Mattyk;780770]First I've ever heard of someone calling him lazy.

One of his best attributes to me is his motor. If he takes plays off, I've never seen it and I'm usually watching him on D.

I can't speak for what he did in college, but if he's lazy in the pros, I'm just not seeing it, nor have I heard anyone but you mention it.

Got any examples to back this claim up? Clips, highlights, etc?[/quote]
His best attribute is his motor and burst, there's no doubt.. but what I see from him is that he's unable to be consistent throughout a full defensive series.

I can't really show you anything considering I would only be able to find highlights, but take note next time..

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Actually to prove you guys wrong, here's Mike Mayock taking the words right out of my mouth. Watch from 1:00-1:40 ish
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHNtH7EPEgs]YouTube - Redskins select Brian Orakpo in the 2009 NFL Draft[/ame]

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[quote=IrMitchell;780775]Actually to prove you guys wrong, here's Mike Mayock taking the words right out of my mouth. Watch from 1:00-1:40 ish
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHNtH7EPEgs"]YouTube - Redskins select Brian Orakpo in the 2009 NFL Draft[/URL][/quote]So lazy he was Big 12 Defensive player of the year. I guess an 80% Rak was that much better than everyone else in the Big 12 that year. I'm sure Mayock had credible reports from somewhere, but I haven't seen it since he's been here.

Does the Rak look a bit lost in space/coverage, yes at times. But keep in mind he's a true RDE and plays much better with his hand in the dirt. If we had stayed in the 4-3 and put him at RDE, he probably would have 12 - 18 sacks per yr., every year....but that's water under the bridge.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;780779]So lazy he was Big 12 Defensive player of the year. I guess an 80% Rak was that much better than everyone else in the Big 12 that year. I'm sure Mayock had credible reports from somewhere, but I haven't seen it since he's been here.

Does the Rak look a bit lost in space/coverage, yes at times. But keep in mind he's a true RDE and plays much better with his hand in the dirt. If we had stayed in the 4-3 and put him at RDE, he probably would have 12 - 18 sacks per yr., every year....but that's water under the bridge.[/quote]
Hey I'm not here to start bashing the guy. I'm just saying that he's lazy and could be even better if he was using that same speed on every play.

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I would have loved to see Orakpo with his hand on the ground for a full season. I really don't care for him as a LB!

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I don't know how anyone can call 98 lazy even "experts".. I DID watch him play at texas and when he played OU and he kicked TWs ass all day long

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Was Trent on our radar this time last year because all I remember is OKUNGGG!!!!!!!!!!

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Just think if we had held onto J. Taylor at end opposite Rak in a 43. I've never watched him live, but I can't imagine opposing OC's game planning and shifting protection to his side if they know he's a lazy player. C'mon

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Last I heard of Maybin he was soooo good the Bills were putting him on the inactive list, even though he was completely healthy. We're really lucky the Bills had a stroke of genius and took Maybin instead of Orakpo. If we get Von Miller I'd be perfectly happy with that. And remember Orakpo's stock was rising throughout the '09 offseason and he still fell to us at #13.

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[quote=mooby;780802]Last I heard of Maybin he was soooo good the Bills were putting him on the inactive list, even though he was completely healthy. We're really lucky the Bills had a stroke of genius and took Maybin instead of Orakpo. If we get Von Miller I'd be perfectly happy with that. And remember Orakpo's stock was rising throughout the '09 offseason and he still fell to us at #13.[/quote]

I can't see Miller falling below #5. He's an outstanding player and supposedly an even better person.

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[quote=SmootSmack;780807]I can't see Miller falling below #5. He's an outstanding player and supposedly an even better person.[/quote]

I don't think many people thought Orakpo was going to slip to #13 either. As many people have said, a lot can happen between now and April. I just hope things work out to where teams needs are higher for other positions than LB and he can fall to us. How crucial was that Jacksonville game now?!?

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[quote=SkinzWin;780846]I don't think many people thought Orakpo was going to slip to #13 either. As many people have said, a lot can happen between now and April. I just hope things work out to where teams needs are higher for other positions than LB and he can fall to us. How crucial was that Jacksonville game now?!?[/quote]

I thought so, but you're right a lot can change. A month ago I thought Miller was our guy. Now, I dont. Much of that has to do with Luck out

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[quote=SmootSmack;780807]I can't see Miller falling below #5. He's an outstanding player and supposedly an even better person.[/quote]

Truuuuue, but anything can happen. I thought Orakpo would go to KC at #3 in '09, but they took Tyson Jackson. I thought there was no way in hell the Bills would pass him up at #11, but they went for Maybin instead. I mean who knows, if Millers' stock solidifies in the top 5 he might not fall to the 10th spot, but there are 9 teams ahead of us that just might decide they have 9 other spots more important than OLB, and that's all it takes.