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skinsfaninok 09-18-2016 04:36 PM

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It's not a shock fellas. The skins do this all the time. They win the div once every few years then fall right back down to earth. We'll be 0-3 next week and then it's over

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SFREDSKIN 09-18-2016 04:37 PM

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I love how people bitch about Cousins, yeah he's being overpaid. Now tell what would be your alternative? Yeah, thought so. No one out there and McCoy is not the answer. This game was lost by stupid play calling.

Chico23231 09-18-2016 04:38 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1148438]I love how people bitch about Cousins, yeah he's being overpaid. Now tell what would be your alternative? Yeah, thought so. No one out there and McCoy is not the answer. This game was lost by stupid play calling.[/quote]

The alternative is get a fuckin running game going. For fucks sakes.

skinsfan69 09-18-2016 04:39 PM

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Not going to kill KC on the two missed deep balls. The one to DJAX is a tough one. The one to Crowder was a couple inches off though easier to complete. The interception was inexcusable. No reason to throw that ball late over the middle in the end zone. He has to know there's the backside safety sitting there. Just awful. Also the dirt ball to Garcon , even though he was held he was still wide open. An easy throw and it's 7. So to me that's 7 points he cost the team. If he hits Crowder that's another 7.

If he wants to be a 20 million qb he has to do better. I don't want to fucking see Colt. You guys that are calling for him are ridiculous.

metalskins 09-18-2016 04:40 PM

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Gruden will be gone by the end of this season, as so will Kirk Cousins. And we will start over once again next year. Rinse and repeat. The 'skins are good for a division title once in a blue moon and that's about it.

sdskinsfan2001 09-18-2016 04:40 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1148436]Look I said this last week, cousins shouldn't be throwing 30-35 times a game...He threw 46 times today!!!

The offense scheme is soft. Matt jones ran 13 times today avg 4.7 per carry. Multiple times we passed 3 consecutive times in the the red zone which resulted field goals or an int. Jones never got a shot down in the red zone. It's fucking insane.

Cousins can't throw 46 times especially when he playing poor.

Come on folks[/quote]

Based on the first 2 games, Cousins shouldn't be passing more than 0 times per game. I agree, that we should run the ball more. But there were plays to be had that Cousins ruined. The talent itself is good on offense besides these 2 positions. It was nice to see Jones look good.

Alvin Walton 09-18-2016 04:40 PM

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Cousins threw for 365 yards. One TD one pick.
Those aren't horrible numbers.

metalskins 09-18-2016 04:41 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1148440]Not going to kill KC on the two missed deep balls. The one to DJAX is a tough one. The one to Crowder was a couple inches off though easier to complete. The interception was inexcusable. No reason to throw that ball late over the middle in the end zone. He has to know there's the backside safety sitting there. Just awful. Also the dirt ball to Garcon , even though he was held he was still wide open. An easy throw and it's 7. So to me that's 7 points he cost the team. If he hits Crowder that's another 7.

If he wants to be a 20 million qb he has to do better. I don't want to fucking see Colt. You guys that are calling for him are ridiculous.[/quote]

Cousins is still the best QB on this team, but what does that really tell you about the team?

skinsfan69 09-18-2016 04:42 PM

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1148438]I love how people bitch about Cousins, yeah he's being overpaid. Now tell what would be your alternative? Yeah, thought so. No one out there and McCoy is not the answer. This game was lost by stupid play calling.[/QUOTE

The McCoy talk is just so fucking stupid. If it came down to that I'd rather see Sudfeld.

skinsfaninok 09-18-2016 04:43 PM

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After a whole off season teams know kirk now, his reads are obvious. He's what he is, a decent qb that has a ton of talent around him

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SFREDSKIN 09-18-2016 04:44 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1148439]The alternative is get a fuckin running game going. For fucks sakes.[/quote]

Agree, that's play calling and not playing our rookie RB. Should have used to Jones to pound it in the end zone.

skinsfan69 09-18-2016 04:44 PM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1148443]Cousins threw for 365 yards. One TD one pick.
Those aren't horrible numbers.[/quote]

It's not the numbers. It's the costly pick and the misses that are hurting the team. Better qb play wins that game. It's only two games, but he needs to play better.

sdskinsfan2001 09-18-2016 04:44 PM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1148443]Cousins threw for 365 yards. One TD one pick.
Those aren't horrible numbers.[/quote]

A lot of times yards are like Wins/Losses for an mlb pitcher, they don't always tell the whole story. He played bad today especially when it mattered most save for 1 pass to Crowder.

FWD Skins 09-18-2016 04:45 PM

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P.S. You fucking refs. Tackling the QB from behind is not roughing the passer. I'm sure Jerry's cash will go far.

Chico23231 09-18-2016 04:45 PM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1148443]Cousins threw for 365 yards. One TD one pick.
Those aren't horrible numbers.[/quote]

Are you serious with this crap? 46 attempt and 1 td? 18 incompletions?

Context folks.

28-46 is bad. Real bad.

And sure if you didn't see the game you might think 365 yards isn't bad

rome108 09-18-2016 04:47 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1148440]Not going to kill KC on the two missed deep balls. The one to DJAX is a tough one. The one to Crowder was a couple inches off though easier to complete. The interception was inexcusable. No reason to throw that ball late over the middle in the end zone. He has to know there's the backside safety sitting there. Just awful. Also the dirt ball to Garcon , even though he was held he was still wide open. An easy throw and it's 7. So to me that's 7 points he cost the team. If he hits Crowder that's another 7.

If he wants to be a 20 million qb he has to do better. I don't want to fucking see Colt. You guys that are calling for him are ridiculous.[/quote]

Obviously your related to cousins, please stfu

skinsfan69 09-18-2016 04:47 PM

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[quote=metalskins;1148444]Cousins is still the best QB on this team, but what does that really tell you about the team?[/quote]

I agree, that's why the Colt talk is ridiculous.

skinsfan69 09-18-2016 04:48 PM

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[quote=rome108;1148453]Obviously your related to cousins, please stfu[/quote]

If you could fucking read what I said I gave him plentry of blame.

metalskins 09-18-2016 04:48 PM

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Cousins was very streaky. Started off the same way he did last week. Got heated up, and then threw a costly INT when he could have put the game away. Franchise quarterbacks know how to put games away.

SouperMeister 09-18-2016 04:49 PM

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Gruden calls it way too soft in the red zone. How about pounding the ball from the 5 yard line instead of calling back to back fades?

sdskinsfan2001 09-18-2016 04:49 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1148445][QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1148438]I love how people bitch about Cousins, yeah he's being overpaid. Now tell what would be your alternative? Yeah, thought so. No one out there and McCoy is not the answer. This game was lost by stupid play calling.[/QUOTE

The McCoy talk is just so fucking stupid. If it came down to that I'd rather see Sudfeld.[/quote]

If we lose to the Giants and Cousins played like he did today, I'd say go with Nate. We either find out if we got lucky or we get a top 5 pick to draft a QB. I said same thing in another previous post.

mooby 09-18-2016 04:57 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1148459]

If we lose to the Giants and Cousins played like he did today, I'd say go with Nate. We either find out if we got lucky or we get a top 5 pick to draft a QB. I said same thing in another previous post.[/quote]

Bro, starting a 6th/7th round rookie quarterback in the 4th game of his career is not only wasting a season, you're feeding that kid to the wolves. With that logic you deserve what you get, which would be a huge pile of dogshit.

SouperMeister 09-18-2016 05:02 PM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1148443]Cousins threw for 365 yards. One TD one pick.
Those aren't horrible numbers.[/quote]Wow, we must have watched different games if you call that performance anything better than horrible. The INT in the end zone completely flipped the momentum and game to Dallas. Add in 2 missed deep balls to DJax, a horrible overthrow for an easy TD to Crowder, an under throw to a wide open Doctson, allowing the defender to catch him, and the bounced ball in the end zone to Garçon. Way too many missed opportunities for a decent pro QB. Make just one of those plays, and the Skins win.

Alvin Walton 09-18-2016 05:08 PM

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[quote=SouperMeister;1148458]Gruden calls it way too soft in the red zone. How about pounding the ball from the 5 yard line instead of calling back to back fades?[/quote]

Those back to back fades were effing stupid.

DYoungJelly 09-18-2016 05:08 PM

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[quote=SouperMeister;1148458]Gruden calls it way too soft in the red zone. How about pounding the ball from the 5 yard line instead of calling back to back fades?[/quote]

100% correct.

Jesus.

Jordan Reed on the field. Matt Jones getting yards after contact all day and we have 1st and goal from the 5.

Like Doc Walker said on the radio broadcast, the 4th quarter of a divisional game isn't the time for Cousins and Doctson to hold training camp.

sdskinsfan2001 09-18-2016 05:09 PM

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[quote=mooby;1148463]Bro, starting a 6th/7th round rookie quarterback in the 4th game of his career is not only wasting a season, you're feeding that kid to the wolves. With that logic you deserve what you get, which would be a huge pile of dogshit.[/quote]

If we start off 0-3 with this schedule, the season is already over. Dak was picked in what the 3rd or 4th round and he's playing good. I'd prefer Cousins just stop stinking but I don't want to watch a whole season of a guy playing like that that won't even be on the team next year (if he kept playing bad).

Hopefully they can find a way to win next week and Cousins gets it together, but based on the first 2 weeks I don't have high hopes.

We just lost at home to a bad team with no defense and their backup QB in.

redskinsfan1980 09-18-2016 05:14 PM

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This team is 100% pure garbage. I'm really disappointed with Kirk. I expected him to be much better than he has been. He missed three easy TD passes. That int in the end zone has to be by far the worse throw I've seen from him while. The defense was dreadful. Them bums can't stop the run or any below average passing game. Joe Barry should be cleaning out his desk along with Jay Gruden.

mooby 09-18-2016 05:15 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1148469]If we start off 0-3 with this schedule, the season is already over. Dak was picked in what the 3rd or 4th round and he's playing good. I'd prefer Cousins just stop stinking but I don't want to watch a whole season of a guy playing like that that won't even be on the team next year if he did play like that.

Hopefully they can find a way to win next week and Cousins gets it together, but based on the first 2 weeks I don't have high hopes.

We just lost at home to a bad team with no defense and their backup QB in.[/quote]

Dak is good because bias aside, the Cowboys have a good squad. They only ask him to do as much as he's comfortable with, and it's working right now. It doesn't mean it will work for the rest of his career though. Pretending like our 6th round project qb could be the next Dak or even Kirk is laughable, he's probably a good two seasons away from knowing whether he's worth keeping or not. I hope you're right and they win next week, but the season isn't shot at 0-3.

Just last year we wasted half the year and still managed to win the division. It's hard but not impossible. Besides, as bad as these first two games have been we know this team is capable of getting into a groove, and anything can happen. We don't need to win the division, that might have been our goal at the start but I wanted to see improvement over last year, and right now it looks like we have regressed.

skinsfan69 09-18-2016 05:24 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1148459][quote=skinsfan69;1148445]

If we lose to the Giants and Cousins played like he did today, I'd say go with Nate. We either find out if we got lucky or we get a top 5 pick to draft a QB. I said same thing in another previous post.[/quote]

Cmon...

sdskinsfan2001 09-18-2016 05:25 PM

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[quote=mooby;1148471]Dak is good because bias aside, the Cowboys have a good squad. They only ask him to do as much as he's comfortable with, and it's working right now. It doesn't mean it will work for the rest of his career though. Pretending like our 6th round project qb could be the next Dak or even Kirk is laughable, he's probably a good two seasons away from knowing whether he's worth keeping or not. I hope you're right and they win next week, but the season isn't shot at 0-3.

Just last year we wasted half the year and still managed to win the division. It's hard but not impossible. Besides, as bad as these first two games have been we know this team is capable of getting into a groove, and anything can happen. We don't need to win the division, that might have been our goal at the start but I wanted to see improvement over last year, and right now it looks like we have regressed.[/quote]

He was a long term starter in college so he's played in a lot of games. He's a project but projects get better by playing. I'm not saying he is the answer, but if he played and stunk we'd get a top pick to get another QB. I don't want to go 6-10 with Kirk. I'd rather go 3-13 Nate.

This conversation is probably better to have after the Giants game. We beat the Giants and the Browns and we're back in business at 2-2.

Our schedule is brutal this year, would be very very tough to make playoffs if we start 0-3.

sdskinsfan2001 09-18-2016 05:31 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1148473][quote=sdskinsfan2001;1148459]

Cmon...[/quote]

How many bad games would it take before you'd yank him? If he plays like this all season he isn't going to be on the team next year so there'd be no point to keep playing Kirk the whole season. Maybe my leash is too soon, but it has to be somewhere this season if his play and our record don't drastically improve.

Like I said, I hope it was just a couple bad games and he starts playing better, but if it doesn't at some point you might as well see if Nate looks capable, even of just staying on as the backup QB once Colt leaves in a couple years.

SolidSnake84 09-18-2016 07:37 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1148469]If we start off 0-3 with this schedule, the season is already over. Dak was picked in what the 3rd or 4th round and he's playing good. I'd prefer Cousins just stop stinking but I don't want to watch a whole season of a guy playing like that that won't even be on the team next year (if he kept playing bad).

Hopefully they can find a way to win next week and Cousins gets it together, but based on the first 2 weeks I don't have high hopes.

We just lost at home to a bad team with no defense and their backup QB in.[/quote]

This is how i was thinking today. I think statistically teams that have started 0-3 or 0-4 have like an insanely low chance of making the playoffs when you look at historical records.

I suggested that by 0-4 or 0-5 it is time for a QB change because the simple fact is your season IS basically over and you need to use the remaining time to look at next year's squad. I really don't see Cousins being here next year. I said it all off-season and in the pre-season.

But, like history has always shown with us - when we let Cousins go, he will go somewhere else and become a great superstar like what happened with Trent Green

mredskins 09-18-2016 08:37 PM

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Cousins really isn't the problem. It's the defense. The problem is if kc doesn't play at a Roger's level to over come our shitty defense he looks bad.

redskinsfan1980 09-18-2016 09:31 PM

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[quote=mredskins;1148506]Cousins really isn't the problem. It's the defense. The problem is if kc doesn't play at a Roger's level to over come our shitty defense he looks bad.[/quote]
The defense is horrid, but Cousins is a problem. The man has been bad thus far. He can turn it around buy it doesn't look good.

CASKINS 09-18-2016 09:46 PM

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1148502]This is how i was thinking today. I think statistically teams that have started 0-3 or 0-4 have like an insanely low chance of making the playoffs when you look at historical records.

I suggested that by 0-4 or 0-5 it is time for a QB change because the simple fact is your season IS basically over and you need to use the remaining time to look at next year's squad. I really don't see Cousins being here next year. I said it all off-season and in the pre-season.

But, like history has always shown with us - when we let Cousins go, he will go somewhere else and become a great superstar like what happened with Trent Green[/quote]

Brad Johnson.

SolidSnake84 09-18-2016 10:51 PM

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[quote=CASKINS;1148519]Brad Johnson.[/quote]

Yes he's an excellent mention too. He slipped my mind. We let rich Gannon go too and he became a star

sdskinsfan2001 09-18-2016 11:33 PM

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1148527]Yes he's an excellent mention too. He slipped my mind. We let rich Gannon go too and he became a star[/quote]

Every franchise has a list of players that left their team and played better somewhere else. All you can do is base it off what they did while on your team and decide if the guy is a keeper or not. Based on the first 2 games, Cousins is not a keeper. Hopefully against the Giants he starts working on swinging that feeling back the other direction. But it'll obviously need to be for more than 1 game.

los panda 09-19-2016 09:20 AM

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[quote=CASKINS;1148519]Brad Johnson.[/quote]

he was well established before her got here.


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