[QUOTE=Paintrain;1055128]According to the Redskins and 49ers official statements, that didn't happen.

#stopbelievingeverythingyouhear[/QUOTE]

Well Adam is usually pretty Damn accurate but who cares if it even happened

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1055110]I agree. The Broncos, Colts, Patriots, Seahwaks.....all of the playoff teams for that matter...all of them have coaches who let the world know that there is constant open competition for their quarterback positions.[/quote]

I get what you are trying to say and I appreciate it. But i don't think it's fair to compare our situation to those teams above. Those teams above have a clear-cut bonafide starting QB. Those guys you know for sure are going to be a "sure thing" every year. Peyton, Luck, Brady, Wilson....

Can you say in your heart that beyond the shadow of a doubt we have a "sure thing" starting QB in RG3? Meaning that there is no doubt whatsoever that RG3 is going to come out this year and play in the same way as those guys above??

I think we should at least take the "wait and see" approach before throwing all the cards in the hat and saying "for sure" we have a starting QB for the next 15+ years.....

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Based on how Cousins looked in his 3 starts, and what we've seen from Griffin when healthy, I don't see any need for any competition. RG3 is the guy moving forward, end of story.

I'm glad Gruden squashed any potential QB drama nonsense right from the start.

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[quote=Mattyk;1055143]Based on how Cousins looked in his 3 starts, and what we've seen from Griffin when healthy, I don't see any need for any competition. RG3 is the guy moving forward, end of story.

I'm glad Gruden squashed any potential QB drama nonsense right from the start.[/quote]

Exactly. People are acting like Cousins has done something to warrant there being a competition. He is a solid backup.

RG3 has shown he can play. He had the best rookie season out of those "for sure" guys in Wilson and Luck. I want to see what RG3 can do with a coach that believes in him and isn't worried about his own ego.

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I'm taking a wait and see approach with this hire.....one thing I do like is that Gruden has never been a head coach on the NFL level.....I'm encouraged by the improvements of his offenses in Cincinnati for each of the past three years.....under Shanahan the Redskins showed what it was capable of.....I think once the offense gets the few more pieces it needs it will be unstoppable..... but I'm greatly concerned about the defense.....

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[quote=Bucket;1055125]I've never seen a head coach who was hired receive so much criticism from the media or from it's fans. I really hope he succeeds after all of it.[/quote]

Let them talk all they want. IMO Gruden will inject more spread concepts into the offense, leading to domination by RGIII.

Anything Dalton can do, RGIII can do better.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1055141]

Can you say in your heart that beyond the shadow of a doubt we have a "sure thing" starting QB in RG3? Meaning that there is no doubt whatsoever that RG3 is going to come out this year and play in the same way as those guys above??

[/quote]

Yes. Yes I can.

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[quote=Mattyk;1055143]Based on how Cousins looked in his 3 starts, and what we've seen from Griffin when healthy, I don't see any need for any competition. RG3 is the guy moving forward, end of story.

I'm glad Gruden squashed any potential QB drama nonsense right from the start.[/quote]


Cousins is a solid QB and maybe he'll be a starter for another team next yr

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1055109]Saw an article on SI about Jay Gruden. Sort of disgusted me. It said that one of the things that was told to Gruden by Dan Snyder was that he was to announce RG3 was the starting QB, and that there would be no competition.

While RG3 should start next year, this to me says that things are already going down the same path that they've always been : Dan Snyder tells the coach who he is going to play, instead of the coach deciding on how he will put the best players on the field.

Competition is always good for everyone. No way this team wins or is successful as long as this crap is going on - the owner telling the coach who he must play. It is disgusting[/quote]

When a team wins 3 games there should be competition everywhere. RG3 should be the starter, but he should also have to prove that he's the best player. If I were Gruden I would make it uncomfortable for everyone.

If Snyder did in fact say this, and that's a big if, then you're correct...same old same old.

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Snyder didn't say anything.

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Schefter just shut up:

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/12/redskins-say-interviews-with-roman-and-fangio-werent-scheduled/#comment-3082030]Redskins say interviews with Roman and Fangio weren’t scheduled | ProFootballTalk[/url]

It’s possible that there was a misunderstanding. It’s also possible that someone who currently works for the Redskins — or who until very recently worked for the Redskins — embellished, exaggerated, and/or fabricated the snafu, out of disgruntlement.

The latter may be more likely, given that the 49ers told the Washington Post that they have no concerns about the manner in which the situation was handled.

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[quote=Lotus;1055149]Let them talk all they want. IMO Gruden will inject more spread concepts into the offense, leading to domination by RGIII.

Anything Dalton can do, RGIII can do better.[/quote]

I love how everyone thinks Dalton is a garbage QB. He's made the playoffs every year, improved his numbers every year and threw 30 plus Td's. He's come up short in the big games but he has done a lot of good things as a young QB. At this time he's a more accomplished QB than RG3 is. RG3 has more potential but potential has gotten a lot of people fired in the NFL. Let's hope Gruden can get RG3 to reach his potential.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1055176][B]I love how everyone thinks Dalton is a garbage QB.[/B] He's made the playoffs every year, improved his numbers every year and threw 30 plus Td's. He's come up short in the big games but he has done a lot of good things as a young QB. At this time he's a more accomplished QB than RG3 is. RG3 has more potential but potential has gotten a lot of people fired in the NFL. Let's hope Gruden can get RG3 to reach his potential.[/quote]

I do not think that Dalton is garbage. What he has done the last few years has been impressive.

But his skillset is not that of RGIII, making his ceiling much lower. Dalton may be as good now as he will ever be. RGIII has lots of room for growth.

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Bengals fans are acting like Hue Jackson is an upgrade for them. Zimmer >>>>>Haslett. Bevell, Quinn, Wisenhunt, Fangio, Roman > Gruden.

Please prove me wrong, skins.

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The skins should look back to the Redskins of the 80's and build a physical D and OL just the 49ers.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1055211]The skins should look back to the Redskins of the 80's and build a physical D and OL just the 49ers.[/quote]

Just like every team that won a playoff game this year. There was a stat where the team that was able to run the ball won the game. The line of scrimmage is where games are still won.

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[quote=HailGreen28;1055209]Bengals fans are acting like Hue Jackson is an upgrade for them. Zimmer >>>>>Haslett. Bevell, Quinn, Wisenhunt, Fangio, Roman > Gruden.

Please prove me wrong, skins.[/quote]

Better Coordinators. Yes. Good Coordinators do not always make the best head coaches. And Good Coaches a lot of the time are mediocre coordinators.

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

[quote=donofriose;1055214]Better Coordinators. Yes. Good Coordinators do not always make the best head coaches. And Good Coaches a lot of the time are mediocre coordinators.[/quote]true Zimmer is a better coordinator I don't think he's a better head coach candidate.

here's hoping the skins see qualities in Gruden you don't see just from the cordinator side of things.

[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1055211]The skins should look back to the Redskins of the 80's and build a physical D and OL just the 49ers.[/QUOTE]

Easier said than done

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For the people that voted that Gruden was a bad hire, can they suggest who they would've rather the Skins hire and why?

Just cuz I'm curious.

I don't think there was a bad hire considering what we just went through

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1055211]The skins should look back to the Redskins of the 80's and build a physical D and OL just the 49ers.[/quote]

agreed

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

[quote=DynamiteRave;1055219]For the people that voted that Gruden was a bad hire, can they suggest who they would've rather the Skins hire and why?

Just cuz I'm curious.[/quote]

Well they could have hired Hue Jackson off that same staff. Jackson is more qualified and had the Raiders playing good football. However Jackson might do and say things that may not go along with the program. The NFL will always be the good ole boy network.

I like the hire, I just don't love it. There were better choices out there. There are already signs of cronyism.

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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;1055219]For the people that voted that Gruden was a bad hire, can they suggest who they would've rather the Skins hire and why? ]Bevell has gotten the most out of Russell Wilson. Quinn runs a good 4-3 with multiple fronts. Whisenhunt's done good things with rivers and kurt warner. those are my top 3 I'd rather have than Gruden.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1055173]Schefter just shut up:

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/12/redskins-say-interviews-with-roman-and-fangio-werent-scheduled/#comment-3082030]Redskins say interviews with Roman and Fangio weren’t scheduled | ProFootballTalk[/url]

It’s possible that there was a misunderstanding. It’s also possible that someone who currently works for the Redskins — or who until very recently worked for the Redskins — embellished, exaggerated, and/or fabricated the snafu, out of disgruntlement.

The latter may be more likely, given that the 49ers told the Washington Post that they have no concerns about the manner in which the situation was handled.[/quote]



I'd trust Schefter before I would Tony Wyllie. If it is true, it's bush league.


ps. if you are implying somehow Shanny fed him this info, how in the fuck would he know who they were interviewing for HIS old job?

[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1055170]When a team wins 3 games there should be competition everywhere. RG3 should be the starter, but he should also have to prove that he's the best player. If I were Gruden I would make it uncomfortable for everyone.



If Snyder did in fact say this, and that's a big if, then you're correct...same old same old.[/QUOTE]


This.


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[QUOTE=Lotus;1055182]I do not think that Dalton is garbage. What he has done the last few years has been impressive.



But his skillset is not that of RGIII, making his ceiling much lower. Dalton may be as good now as he will ever be. RGIII has lots of room for growth.[/QUOTE]


Let's hope!


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[quote=NC_Skins;1055253]I'd trust Schefter before I would Tony Wyllie. If it is true, it's bush league.


ps. if you are implying somehow Shanny fed him this info, how in the fuck would he know who they were interviewing for HIS old job?[/quote]

[SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]I don’t think anybody is implying he received the information from Shanny. What I believe they are implying is Schefty is close friends with Shanny and his friendship may be clouding his judgment. [/FONT][/SIZE]
[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]Also the 49ers have came out and denied the rumor, in this case I believe Tony Wyllie.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]This is a non-issue and BS story.[/SIZE][/FONT]

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[quote=HailGreen28;1055215]true Zimmer is a better coordinator I don't think he's a better head coach candidate.

here's hoping the skins see qualities in Gruden you don't see just from the cordinator side of things.[/quote]

Look at Norv Turner or Wade Phillips. Great coordinators; shitty head coaches.

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[quote=OmahaRedskins;1055262][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]I don’t think anybody is implying he received the information from Shanny. What I believe they are implying is Schefty is close friends with Shanny and his friendship may be clouding his judgment. [/FONT][/SIZE]
[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]Also the 49ers have came out and denied the rumor, in this case I believe Tony Wyllie.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]This is a non-issue and BS story.[/SIZE][/FONT][/quote]

Schefter isn't going to run some bogus report just because he's buddies with Shanahan. I'm quite positive he wouldn't sacrifice his career for a coach who probably will never be a head coach again in the NFL.

If Schefter is reporting something, it's something from a legit source. Legit source being key here, and I doubt that source is any former coaches that have no knowledge on the situation.

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It appears his sources were wrong this time, because this article/rumor has been denied all over the internet. I guess we have three options.
1. His source was wrong.
2. His source was right and both Redskins and 49ers are wrong
3. His source wasn’t very accurate and he reported it anyway.
If its number three, why would he do this?

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[quote=NC_Skins;1055253]I'd trust Schefter before I would Tony Wyllie. If it is true, it's bush league.


ps. if you are implying somehow Shanny fed him this info, how in the fuck would he know who they were interviewing for HIS old job?[/quote]

There are holdover coaches on staff from the Shanahan regime, I would imagine there's a rat in the ship.

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[quote=Paintrain;1055128]According to the Redskins and 49ers official statements, that didn't happen.

#stopbelievingeverythingyouhear[/quote]

According to my internet browser, this is not Twitter.




Nice, we have ONE person who voted no. HailGreen28.



Did everyone else see this on the team blog? Jay was a legend in Zubaz.

[url=http://blog.redskins.com/2014/01/08/jay-gruden-makes-his-own-name/]The Redskins Blog | Jay Gruden Makes His Own Name[/url]

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As for the rumor that the interviews of the 49'er coaches were not cancelled, I DON'T CARE! True or false, it's nothing more than gossip. When did the NFL become TMV, anyway?

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1055342]As for the rumor that the interviews of the 49'er coaches were not cancelled, I DON'T CARE! True or false, it's nothing more than gossip. [B]When did the NFL become TMV[/B], anyway?[/quote]

When Mike Florio started to write about football.

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[I]OMG . . . can you believe the "Washington Team," didn't even call the 9'ers back to let them know . . . it's like tots rude! Snyder is like the NFL's #1 frienemy!

And that tie Bruce was wearing at the press conference . . . hello 1990's much?[/I]

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980 saying Bobby Turner is out?

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Seems like Turner would be one we'd want to keep. Our running game was the ONE bright spot on the team last year.

Then again, he was also Shanahan's RB coach in Denver so maybe it's just a full purge of anyone close to Shanahan.

[IMG]http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/54477/Bobby_Turner.jpg[/IMG]

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Interesting read about how Gruden likes to fill out the offensive roster:

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/4786/how-jay-gruden-shaped-his-roster]How Jay Gruden shaped his roster - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url]