Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

Good to hear this...

John Keim ‏@john_keim 8m
Talked to Gruden's agent. Two things mattered most: Familiarity with staff. And RG3 potential.

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

[quote=irish;1054401]Read the article in Sunday's WaPo and you will see that isnt true. If the experts agree with him then he goes with their opinion if not then he goes with his opinion. 2 examples cited in the article. He wanted to draft Malcom Kelly (the experts had big issues with his health) and the experts wanted Jordy Nelson. You know the rest. Shanny wanted Bulger but DS wanted McNabb who was a bigger more marketable name. Again, you know the rest.

It seems like DS's best PR move has been to get the public to think he's defered to the experts. He hasnt.[/quote]

Citing the WP for proof of DS being a bad owner is not really very useful. I am sure that, like every other owner in the league, he has pushed his ideas, but it is clear from Gibbs to Shanahan and now Allen, that he has been reducing the amount of hands on meddling that he has been doing. The Washington Post, or at least some of its writers, will never acknowledge DS doing anything other than being a petulant owner, but that doesn't seem to jive with most of the facts that are out there now.

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

I really have to question this move.

We have the 9th ranked offense and the 18th ranked defense that gave up 30 pnts/game, so we get rid of our offensive coaches for someone who had a WORSE ranked offense than ours and retain the DC?

I will say that Cincy averaged more points than us, so that is good. I am not totally down on Gruden but it is clear to me that he must have been our #1 choice all along. The only 3 coaches they don't fire are the ones that have connections to Gruden? The ONLY reason they kept Haslett is to help lure Gruden and that is some backwards ass thinking to me.

Don't try to sell me on the Shanny interfered with Haslett's defense theory. He could have walked away anytime the last 4 years if that was the case.

As for him not having the right players, we spent multiple high picks on Defense and brought in the defensive FAs we could afford. I'm sure as DC he had input on these players. My point is if it was personnel problem then Haslett and the salary cap penalty had as much to do with it as Shanny.

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

@FauxJohnMadden: BREAKING: Daniel Snyder completely unaware he hired the wrong Gruden brother

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

[quote=Beemnseven;1054399]What is ths fixation with moving back to the 4-3? Why do people believe that's going to magically solve the issue? We've had 4 years now in the 3-4 and our personnel all along has been built to conform to it.

Why not go get some better guys who can play with the system we have?[/quote]

Yeah, I hear you, but what I'd really like to see is them build a team with best talent availble in draft and FA, and based on the personnel they have come next season (and of course the game situation) mix up the formations to take full advantage of the talent and depth they have availble.

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

I am happy they got a move done quickly, tho. Now we can start moving on.

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

[quote=hutch17;1054395]I don't know about that I like the idea of Rak with his hand in the dirt he will dominate there, have Rob Jackson and Kerrigan as the OLB's Riley and Robinson in the Middle (or draft Shayne Skov) and then have the pass rush specialist Chris Jenkins out of FSU we drafted last year as the other starting DE or Bowen. Cofield and Jarvis Jenkins would be great 4-3 tackles.[/quote]

If we're only going to move one of Ryan or Brian to DE, you picked the right one. Kerrigan seems to have a knack for batting balls and getting INTs around or behind the line of scrimmage from the LB position. Orakpo has one great talent, pass rushing.

[QUOTE=SKINSnCANES;1054229]Is there something I dont know about why Haslett is still here? Like was Shanahan forcing him to call bad plays and have bad schemes and hes good otherwise?

I think him staying is bigger news that us hiring a coach[/QUOTE]

Same could be said for him getting this job in the first place. I guess it wasnt hos fault he sucked everywhere he ever went. Im happy about Gruden but i hope Haz is on a damn short leash.

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[quote=81forHOF;1054413]I am happy they got a move done quickly, tho. Now we can start moving on.[/quote]

Me too, we reached out and got alot of input and reached a decision quick. So much for this is toxic job nobody wanted. Figured Tampa and Houston, the best jobs first, would go and then us. Detroit, Minny, and Cleveland, the worst jobs, still available.

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

[quote=davy;1054370]Same old crap, Gruden was already pencilled in as head coach before the season ended and the interviews were purely for show.

Hate it.[/quote]

I agree. The hiring process started so well and then ran into the ditch.

But if luck is on our side and Gruden turns out to be the right man, the process won't matter...or so says the optimist in me.

Nice Fleetwood Mac sig btw.

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

[quote=davy;1054370]Same old crap, Gruden was already pencilled in as head coach before the season ended and the interviews were purely for show.

Hate it.[/quote]

The same way Andy Reid, Chip Kelly, and Bill O'Brien were hired. So what's so terrible about this?

Lets atleast give the guy a few hours. Lmao

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[quote=Lotus;1054418]I agree. The hiring process started so well and then ran into the ditch.

But if luck is on our side and Gruden turns out to be the right man, the process won't matter...or so says the optimist in me.

Nice Fleetwood Mac sig btw.[/quote]

only time will tell if it will work out. just like any hire if works the way the did is brilliant and if it fails it was the same old redskins. BTW Bobby Bethard hired Joe Gibbs that way, he told him he had the job and just interviewed other guys for show.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1054324]Only someone as persistently negative as you are would even be thinking of that right now.[/quote]


What should I be thinking? Enlighten me with your positivism.

14 years of ownership.
8 head coaches.
2 playoff win.
0 super bowls.
failure, price of admission.

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

[quote=Lotus;1054418]I agree. The hiring process started so well and then ran into the ditch.

But if luck is on our side and Gruden turns out to be the right man, the process won't matter...or so says the optimist in me.

Nice Fleetwood Mac sig btw.[/quote]

Yeah, I said on the locked thread that I'd be happy if this JG has half the success of the last JG.

Nice spot on the sig btw. :)