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[quote=charlielyons;507021]this offense has stuggled for years, hence the reason i said when we are mathimatically eliminated why not see what others can do.
QB-brennan for campbell,OL-rinehart and heyer,TE-davis for yoder,WR-thomas and kelly for ARE and thrash[/quote]

Since you seem to be hung up on the topic of deliveries, what do you think about Colt's sidearm sling?

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[quote=charlielyons;507048]no axe to grind....just thinking once we are out of the playoff hunt....look at the backups for the future.[/quote]

While you are entitled to your opinion of course, it's pretty annoying to see someone get thoroughly beat down by reasoned argumentation and repeatedly come back with the same take: whatever dude, put in Brennan :Smoker:

If you aren't going to come with more than "why not see what the backups can do" (as if benching the franchise quarterback is something to be done on a lark), why not just move onto a new thread? I mean, we get it.

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[quote=Mattyk72;507058]Since you seem to be hung up on the topic of deliveries, what do you think about Colt's sidearm sling?[/quote]
needs to be brought up, but his delievery is quick(potienally alot of batted balls)

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[quote=djnemo65;507059]While you are entitled to your opinion of course, it's pretty annoying to see someone get thoroughly beat down by reasoned argumentation and repeatedly come back with the same take: whatever dude, put in Brennan :Smoker:

If you aren't going to come with more than "why not see what the backups can do" (as if benching the franchise quarterback is something to be done on a lark), why not just move onto a new thread? I mean, we get it.[/quote]
all i was saying if the season is dead, with 2 games left, see how the bench looks in regular season action.....to help prepare for the draft and free agency.

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[quote=charlielyons;507062]all i was saying if the season is dead, with 2 games left, see how the bench looks in regular season action.....to help prepare for the draft and free agency.[/quote]

The point he is trying to make is we understand what you are trying to say - you've said it about 100 times in this thread.

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[quote=JLW428;507067]The point he is trying to make is we understand what you are trying to say - you've said it about 100 times in this thread.[/quote]
well then get off my nuts about it. my opinion and its not gonna happen

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[quote=charlielyons;507068]well then get off my nuts about it. my opinion and its not gonna happen[/quote]

You know, if you make outlandish statements, expect outlandish answers. And I'm going to guess that the biggest problem people are having is not so much what you're saying but the fact you're stating it 10 different ways.

You don't like JC as the QB. Okay. We get it. Moving on...

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Honestly I do not think Campbell has been the issue this year so IMHO there is no QB controversy but I guess you have to have everyone in DC.

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Jason seems like a very good person & I hope he can become a great QB but when things go bad the 1st two to take the blame will be him & Zorn. I just hope both can help the Skins make a run the next five weeks.

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[quote=Mattyk72;507000]Maybe I'm missing something, but I honestly don't see JC's delivery as being an issue anymore. I look at other QBs and see much more quirky deliveries. Kerry Collins has always had a big hitch. Leftwich has to have the longest windup in the history of the game. Phillip Rivers seems to almost push the ball. Our own Colt Brennan has a pretty unconventional delivery.

JC's delivery has been cleaned up to the point where I don't even see it as being an issue. One thing to consider that I've brought up in the past is [B]he's pretty lanky so I think the illusion is there that he has a longer delivery.[/B][/quote]

Lanky doesn't quite go far enough - sometimes he makes me think we have a giant "gummy man" at QB the way his arm contorts... does make for a pretty long ball though :)

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[quote=Mattyk72;507019]The entire offense is struggling, not just him. Thinking he's the one to blame is a pretty narrow minded view. There's 11 guys on offense.[/quote]

yeah, in fact i think one could argue JC performs better (at his position, respectively) than say 6 or 7 of the other guys on offense most of the time. Obviously CP, Sellers, and Cooley perform at a high level quite consistently. And while Moss can be spectacular he can also catch the dropsies overnight and somehow fail to get open for long stretches. i say JC is consistently our 4 best player on offense (again respective of position), so yeah we could do a lot to improve elsewhere.

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[quote=The Goat;507077]Lanky doesn't quite go far enough - sometimes he makes me think we have a giant [B]"gummy man" [/B]at QB the way his arm contorts... does make for a pretty long ball though :)[/quote]

So now JC is kind of like Gumby? :laughing2

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[quote=DynamiteRave;507079]So now JC is kind of like Gumby? :laughing2[/quote]

Yeah, Gumby is exactly what I was going for but my memory doesn't work for shit anymore!

Wonder if this nickname will stick... nah :)

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[quote=The Goat;507078]yeah, in fact i think one could argue JC performs better (at his position, respectively) than say 6 or 7 of the other guys on offense most of the time. Obviously CP, Sellers, and Cooley perform at a high level quite consistently. And while Moss can be spectacular he can also catch the dropsies overnight and somehow fail to get open for long stretches. i say JC is consistently our 4 best player on offense (again respective of position), so yeah we could do a lot to improve elsewhere.[/quote]

Maybe you throw Samuels into that too and earlier I would say ARE, but he dropping oh so many passes.

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[quote=hooskins;507084]Maybe you throw Samuels into that too and earlier I would say ARE, but he dropping oh so many passes.[/quote]

good points. def before this year samuels would be ahead of JC. ARE is so damn hard to analyze IMO. As, I believe, GTripp explained in a game-review thread El's numbers seem to jive w/ a decent 2nd receiver. But his presence just isn't inspiring out there. Too streaky? Not enough yards after catch? Hard to say...