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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1377936]The Dems were never going to get the funding for health care, it was only a matter of time before enough caved. Trump has taking paying SNAP benefits to the Supreme Court. He has great distain for the poor as he does everything he cans to starve them and remove their health care.

Isn't the south a very poor region of the nation full of poverty and SNAP and ACA beneficiaries? Trump carried those states, those morons are now facing the consequences of their vote.[/quote]

Yes playing politics and the Virginia/New Jersey elections were more important for Democrats than funding SNAP benefits. They could have signed the exact same bill 40 days ago. There is no shame with you folks, You applaud it.

Yes let’s talk about the failed Obamacare healthcare legislation that has done nothing to help anyone except load more people on it who shouldn’t qualify and increased healthcare cost across the country since its inception. It’s failed period. And for who? Early retirees:

[url]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/17/aca-enhanced-subsidy-lapse-government-shutdown.html[/url]

Fucking boomers, so again a massive burden on the taxpayers to folks who don’t need the help because of comfort of being able to retire early.

The legislation is an absolute failure from what it would say it would do, to what it actually did. It’s been a boon for the healthcare industry, though. Great job

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[quote=Chico23231;1377999]Yes playing politics and the Virginia/New Jersey elections were more important for Democrats than funding SNAP benefits. They could have signed the exact same bill 40 days ago. There is no shame with you folks, You applaud it.

Yes letÂ’s talk about the failed Obamacare healthcare legislation that has done nothing to help anyone except load more people on it who shouldnÂ’t qualify and increased healthcare cost across the country since its inception. ItÂ’s failed period. And for who? Early retirees:

[url]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/17/aca-enhanced-subsidy-lapse-government-shutdown.html[/url]

Fucking boomers, so again a massive burden on the taxpayers to folks who donÂ’t need the help because of comfort of being able to retire early.

The legislation is an absolute failure from what it would say it would do, to what it actually did. ItÂ’s been a boon for the healthcare industry, though. Great job[/quote]

What do you call it when the federal government refuses to use the emergency SNAP benefits and then takes it to court so they can continue to allow people to starve when a judge rules they need to use the funds? They even went as far as to delete mention of the emergency fund from the USDA website. Isn't that political theater?

I am disappointed in the senate democrats no doubt. If that was what they were going to do they should've just done it. Instead they only put off firing federal employees until the end of January and will definitely lose healthcare.

In terms of the ACA the main reason there is majority of Americans approve it (64%) including 19% of republicans which is the highest it has ever been. Is because it allows for coverage of pre existing conditions which is an abject failure of the private system that nobody wants to revert back to. In terms of increased costs comparing what we had to the ACA, the decade before the ACA 2000-2010 premiums went up 8-10% per a year while wage growth was 2-3%. The decade after the ACA enactment premiums went up at a rate of 4-5% while wages went up 2.5-3%. 2020-2023 premiums went up 3-6% while wages went up 4-5%. My sources (Kaiser Family Foundation (KFF Employer Health Benefits Surveys, 2000–2023), CMS National Health Expenditure Data, Bureau of Labor Statistics)

I am not a fan of the ACA because I believe universal healthcare is the only morally responsible thing for a MDC to do. I also do not like whether my healthcare is decided by the profit margins of a handful of millionaires to billionaires.

So what is the republican solution to this? They have had a decade and have yet to come up with anything in writing. Going back to what we had isn't the answer. I am still waiting for the most favored nation to start reducing pharmaceuticals. There is lots of failure by leadership here.

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[quote=Chico23231;1377999]Yes playing politics and the Virginia/New Jersey elections were more important for Democrats than funding SNAP benefits. They could have signed the exact same bill 40 days ago. There is no shame with you folks, You applaud it. [/quote]

...and the GOP could have ended it day one by nuking the filibuster (save me your tired crap about it being some historical shit, it's not. 1970s is not historical)

Let's talk about your side. Trump not only refused to fund SNAP after the court ordered him, but he specifically took the issue to the Supreme Court. That's how bad he hates poor starving kids. Yeah, that's a much worse look than anything Dems did.



[quote=Chico23231;1377999]The legislation is an absolute failure from what it would say it would do, to what it actually did. It’s been a boon for the healthcare industry, though. Great job
[/quote]

Trump said he had a healthcare bill ready in 2 weeks. That was back in 2017. If the ACA is such a huge failure that you all keep talking about, why hasn't the Republicans put forth a SINGLE healthcare bill in 3 decades? Not a one. Why?

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Reminder

ACA Subsidies Weren’t Being Taken Away by GOP, Dems ‘Designed Those Tax Credits to Expire In their own legislation

Shrugs…a democrat failure

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1378022]Reminder

ACA Subsidies Weren’t Being Taken Away by GOP, Dems ‘Designed Those Tax Credits to Expire In their own legislation

Shrugs…a democrat failure[/QUOTE]Setting expirations on tax credits isn't a failure. 1 it allows for proper CBO accounting. 2 it allows for revisiting and altering with a deadline in mind. What is an abject failure is the Republicans lack of a promised replacement plan other then back to a system that had been broken.

AND what is even more of an abject failure than the Republicans abject failure is the failure of the moderate republicans and moderate democrats to come up with a bipartisan solution that could carry 2/3rds in both houses.

I'm neither an economist, or healthcare guru, but with all the wisdom and knowledge out there it seems to me there must be a solution that is not all democrat or all republican based.

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chico for you............

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So the spending bill includes potential $500,000 payouts to some senators. Unbelievable.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1378030]Setting expirations on tax credits isn't a failure. 1 it allows for proper CBO accounting. 2 it allows for revisiting and altering with a deadline in mind. What is an abject failure is the Republicans lack of a promised replacement plan other then back to a system that had been broken.

AND what is even more of an abject failure than the Republicans abject failure is the failure of the moderate republicans and moderate democrats to come up with a bipartisan solution that could carry 2/3rds in both houses.

I'm neither an economist, or healthcare guru, but with all the wisdom and knowledge out there it seems to me there must be a solution that is not all democrat or all republican based.

Sent from my SM-S711U using Tapatalk[/quote]

Yes, so fully remove the Covid credits.those were pandemic only. Government paid 130 billion directly to insurance companies. That ends now, the pandemic is over. We are not extending Covid policy healthcare in the ACA

Obamacare premiums are expected to rise by 18% on average in 2026. With or without

My absolute preference would be massive reforms for the ACA along with reforms within Medicaid.

Obviously we aren’t giving free healthcare to everyone and we aren’t giving free healthcare to folks who aren’t citizens. Can we start with that premise and move forward? And no we aren’t going to give states fungible money so they can get around those principles…start with helping the people who need it.

So that means we are not going to focus on early retirees, people who make 500k a year or 250k individually. That’s not who needs the help.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1378037]So the spending bill includes potential $500,000 payouts to some senators. Unbelievable.[/quote]

All for being lawfully subpoenaed

Un fucking believable

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I guess the good news is we'll all be getting our $5000 DOGE checks Trump promised us back in May. Any day now....

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Trump is a gigantic fucking crybaby. A big ole baby. And he lashes out like a bully because of it. Petulance is not an endearing or respectable trait.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1378066]I guess the good news is we'll all be getting our $5000 DOGE checks Trump promised us back in May. Any day now....[/quote]

Do we still get the $2000 too? I could use $7,000.

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Wish this article was not from the New York Times, it will get dismissed due to their reputation being crap and there are bits of this article that are weak and reflect that reputation, but for the most part it shows how corrupt the Trump administration is especially on those actions taken to stop DOJ investigations into corruption.

....March 11 PIN, which in part oversaw corruption cases brought by U.S. attorneys’ offices across the country, was largely stripped of the authority to bring its own prosecutions. Most of the lawyers in the department were reassigned, eventually leaving only two, down from 38 at the beginning of Trump’s second term....."

[url]https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/11/16/magazine/trump-justice-department-staff-attorneys.html?unlocked_article_code=1.108.iA7n.iz7Mi8R5y6lE&smid=url-share[/url]

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[quote=nonniey;1378128]Wish this article was not from the New York Times, it will get dismissed due to their reputation being crap and there are bits of this article that are weak and reflect that reputation, but for the most part it shows how corrupt the Trump administration is especially on those actions taken to stop DOJ investigations into corruption.

....March 11 PIN, which in part oversaw corruption cases brought by U.S. attorneys’ offices across the country, was largely stripped of the authority to bring its own prosecutions. Most of the lawyers in the department were reassigned, eventually leaving only two, down from 38 at the beginning of Trump’s second term....."

[url]https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/11/16/magazine/trump-justice-department-staff-attorneys.html?unlocked_article_code=1.108.iA7n.iz7Mi8R5y6lE&smid=url-share[/url][/quote]


Draining the swamp by firing all the people going after corruption. Right on brand.

By now The Cult has been completely desensitized to his lying, total corruption and general mob boss behavior. So let’s be honest, him firing all the lawyers who look into his corruption won't move the needle to his followers. Hell the Epstein Files could show that he was banging 16 year olds and they will find a way to blame everyone but Donald Trump.

I'll be so glad when he is gone from the White House. Maybe just maybe we can end all of this craziness and become all Americans again.

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So who or what is bubba?

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[quote=MTK;1378134]So who or what is bubba?[/quote]

We will never know, surprised?

[url]https://x.com/atrupar/status/1990808968734630189?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1990808968734630189%7Ctwgr%5Ee8c451f3c0c34388c0a2debdb3f7c54813952d36%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthegiantsboard.proboards.com%2Fthread%2F7390%2Fpolitical-discussion%3Fpage%3D1764[/url]



House Speaker Mike Johnson, who himself had tried to block a vote from coming to the House floor, voted in favor of the release of the files. However, Johnson also called on the Senate to amend the legislation, claiming that the bill provides no protection for victims.

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The fat fuck calling a woman piggy. This fucking guy man. He is who we thought he was.

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[quote=MTK;1378147]The fat fuck calling a woman piggy. This fucking guy man. He is who we thought he was.[/quote]

[IMG]https://i.imgflip.com/acjig1.jpg[/IMG]

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Yeah I've been saying since 2016 the level of behavior from this guy that is somehow acceptable is disgusting A President of the United States should never act like this.

But they just don't care. As long as he is going after people who don't look like them he is their hero. It apparently does not matter that every one of Trump's supporters had their ancestors come here from another nation.

Just downright disgusting. I'm just counting down the days until he is gone.

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1378172]Yeah I've been saying since 2016 the level of behavior from this guy that is somehow acceptable is disgusting A President of the United States should never act like this.

But they just don't care. As long as he is going after people who don't look like them he is their hero. It apparently does not matter that every one of Trump's supporters had their ancestors come here from another nation.

Just downright disgusting. I'm just counting down the days until he is gone.[/quote]

The joke is on the trumpettes that voted for him. He is screwing over his supporters and screwing the republicans at the sametime. Mid terms should be fun as long as the voter base doesn't get bought off with his checks.

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chico's girlfriend is history.................

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/articles/rep-marjorie-taylor-greene-georgia-012330266.html[/url]

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, former Trump loyalist, says she is resigning from Congress

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[quote=Giantone;1378176]chico's girlfriend is history.................

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/articles/rep-marjorie-taylor-greene-georgia-012330266.html[/url]

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, former Trump loyalist, says she is resigning from Congress[/quote]

This is gonna get lost in the sauce but she's resigning the day after she gets vested meaning she's gonna get a crappy pension (1k/mo) and more importantly lifetime health insurance from Congress. The grift continues.

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[quote=Chico23231;1378022]Reminder

ACA Subsidies Weren’t Being Taken Away by GOP, Dems ‘Designed Those Tax Credits to Expire In their own legislation

Shrugs…a democrat failure[/quote]

I'm just gonna post this in every thread you defend Trump in. This is what you support.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/6hvAu27.png[/img]

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[IMG]https://y.yarn.co/ede126c6-09b8-45ed-a9d3-f71ebb370b56_text.gif[/IMG]

Apparently congress attempt to deal with health care jfc