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[quote=tryfuhl;729969]Where are you getting all of this Jason Reid has reported us wanting to trade for a player and then it got done?

an N.O. newspaper and either Schefter or Glazer reported on it.. Reid just reported on their reports

even HAD he been the one to break it.. how is 1 even close to a track record?[/quote]

That's true, but I generally trust Reid's reporting. If he is rereporting something, I would imagine it is still throughly vetted...or at least I would hope.

While, one player may not be a track record, I am still sticking with my conspiracy theory...though its probably wrong:)

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If he's re-reporting it's already happened. I do that on my Twitter all of the time.

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[quote=mbedner3420;729947]Oh, he's definately gone by Monday (and I couldn't be happier. I'm tired of having to read about Haynesworth everyday).

The Jackson thing though just seems like it would fit. PFT has him going to either the vikings or here...but then again, any article referencing either a trade or signing of a WR has the redskins peppered in there somewhere so you can never really take too much stock in that. Regardless, it all seems to make sense given the Snyder can afford what VJ is asking for and Shanny's strong need for solid WRs.[/quote]

And I guess you are Bruce Allen?:welcome:

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Now how the hell does anyone know he is gone by Monday and VJ arrives later that afternoon? Is this how it will go down? You got the inside info bud? BTW welcome to the board.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;729990]And I guess you are Bruce Allen?:welcome:[/quote]

No, but I did have class with his niece...I'm sure that qualifies me in some way :)

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[quote=mbedner3420;730014]No, but I did have class with his niece...I'm sure that qualifies me in some way :)[/quote]

only if you bedded it and have the scoop

just a tip.. if you don't know.. don't state as if you do

saying something like "I'd look for Albert to be reoffered by Monday due to blah blah" is way diff from "the guys will be gone Monday"

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[quote=skinsfaninok;729990]And I guess you are Bruce Allen?:welcome:[/quote]

No but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

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Let me guess- extremeskins is down and you couldn't wait to rumor monger so you opened an account here? Having class with his niece doesn't qualify you for jack.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;730047]Let me guess- extremeskins is down and you couldn't wait to rumor monger so you opened an account here? Having class with his niece doesn't qualify you for jack.[/quote]

I heard that Jack was a nice young gentleman, but doesn't swing that way.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;730047]Let me guess- extremeskins is down and you couldn't wait to rumor monger so you opened an account here? Having class with his niece doesn't qualify you for jack.[/quote]

Wow! That part was a joke, but I figured that was evident...the holiday inn comment guy got it as a joke.

It's a prediction, I called it a 'conspiracy theory' enough to make that point. But, apparently predictions aren't accepted on this board... Someone should tell the guy who is predicting the Skins to go 14-2 in his sig. :)

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I just got a tweet and a text that AH will be on the field Sunday night doing the Texas Two Step on some Cowboys face. Just watching that clip makes me fall back in love with AH.

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5nlEA8BUTQ&feature=related"]YouTube - Albert Haynesworth stomps Andre Gurode[/URL]

This one also helps.
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aWuTmFCF4I&feature=related"]YouTube - Tom Brady Gets Nailed by Albert HaynesWorth[/URL]

And who is the big man defending our guy.

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1JKgOJpohU&feature=related"]YouTube - Giants fight[/URL]

And once again he comes to defend our guy

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_guAW0CCmsQ&feature=related"]YouTube - 11/8/09-Redskins vs. Falcons Fight![/URL]

We need some nasty so I hope he stays.

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We have told him he was crazy at times already. He is new to. LOL :)

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[quote=mbedner3420;730072]Wow! That part was a joke, but I figured that was evident...the holiday inn comment guy got it as a joke.

It's a prediction, I called it a 'conspiracy theory' enough to make that point. But, apparently predictions aren't accepted on this board... Someone should tell the guy who is predicting the Skins to go 14-2 in his sig. :)[/quote]

you worded it as if you had some sort of inside info. the reason most of us are here, other than the free booze, is to avoid that sort of crap that runs rampant on extremeskins. welcome to the board.

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[quote=firstdown;730097]I just got a tweet and a text that AH will be on the field Sunday night doing the Texas Two Step on some Cowboys face. Just watching that clip makes me fall back in love with AH.

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5nlEA8BUTQ&feature=related"]YouTube - Albert Haynesworth stomps Andre Gurode[/URL]

This one also helps.
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aWuTmFCF4I&feature=related"]YouTube - Tom Brady Gets Nailed by Albert HaynesWorth[/URL]

And who is the big man defending our guy.

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1JKgOJpohU&feature=related"]YouTube - Giants fight[/URL]

And once again he comes to defend our guy

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_guAW0CCmsQ&feature=related"]YouTube - 11/8/09-Redskins vs. Falcons Fight![/URL]

We need some nasty so I hope he stays.[/quote]

I want to find a youtube video of AH plowing Faneca from last Thursday's game.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;730116]you worded it as if you had some sort of inside info. the reason most of us are here, other than the free booze, is to avoid that sort of crap that runs rampant on extremeskins. welcome to the board.[/quote]

I don't really ever look at extremeskins so I didn't realize, but if that's the case, i'll keep that in mind when I post. Thank for the welcome!

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The fix to all of this is to play Haynesworth, and he gets 3 TFL and 3 sacks, all while blowing up their OLine. In the remote possibility that happens, I think the Titans, as well as other teams, will forget the soap opera and readily hand us a 2nd and a 3rd for him. The question is, if he does that great, will we want to ship him????

I say keep him, repair that bridge, and let him topple other teams bridges.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;730116]you worded it as if you had some sort of inside info. the reason most of us are here, other than the free booze, is to avoid that sort of crap that runs rampant on extremeskins. welcome to the board.[/quote]

Wait you get free booze? Matty WTF?? Smootsmack I am looking at you too

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;730371]Wait you get free booze? Matty WTF?? Smootsmack I am looking ar you too[/quote]

I second this inquiry! LOL.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;730371]Wait you get free booze? Matty WTF?? Smootsmack I am looking ar you too[/quote]

TMC's the liquor and beer mod, take it up with him

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[quote=SmootSmack;730389]TMC's the liquor and beer mod, take it up with him[/quote]

Oh so we are just gonna pass the buck around here

[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;730450]Oh so we are just gonna pass the buck around here[/QUOTE]

Wait I thought we were passing the bottle?!!

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;730455]Wait I thought we were passing the bottle?!![/quote]

Well Ruhskins and I never got the bottle, so IDK but "TMC's the liquor and beer mod. Take it up with him."

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[quote=Longtimefan;729813]Maybe instead of discussing a trade with the Titans, we should be discussing how they managed to coax two pro bowl seasons out of Haynesworth and we can't manage to get him to play six consecutive plays.[/quote]

How about a 21 million dollar bonus check.

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[quote=skins89moss;730502]How about a 21 million dollar bonus check.[/quote]

They were smart enough not to give him that, that's why he's here.

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[quote=mbedner3420;729935]after the "he will be a Redskin on Sunday" remark, does anyone else feel like Haynesworth will be gone by next week and Vincent Jackson will be coming in to town?

its just seems a bit strange given that an unnamed team made a bid for Jackson a week or two ago and the chargers where unhappy with the compensation and now Shanny and Allen are furiously trying to deal Haynesworth for a second round pick.

Can't say I'd be terribly upset with that if thats the outcome.[/quote]

Does AH want to play for the Redskins is the question? If he dosen't should the Redskins try to accomodate him with a trade for both parties? Would a AH that does not want to play for the Redskins go out on Sundays and give a 100% on the field? A professional would do that but I think we have come to learn that AH is not a professional by the way he handled the OTA's situation and complaining about playing in a 3-4 defense.
If AH does want to play here in Washington he should come out with a public statement saying he wants to stay here. I think as fans we rather here it from the player or coaches mouth then some unnamed source.

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I see 3 scenarios in all this drama...

#1)Start Albert against Dallas and hope he plays inspired football because he's starting,thus increasing his probable very low trade value and trade him by week 6 for picks/players thus weakening the D-Line but getting the best we can in compensation.

#2)Start Albert against Dallas and hope he plays inspired football because we need him and if he plays well,keep him and just deal with him and his character on the team. Drop all trade talks about Albert unless we get an offer we absolutely can't refuse.

#3)Slowly bring Albert along in the D-line rotation as a backup or situational player and see how he handles it. Hopefully all this drama ends and possibly he can earn his way to the starting rotation sooner rather than later. If the problems continues and he mouths off to the media and or causes problems,then trade him to the Titans for what we can get by week 6 or perhaps sooner.

Most media outlets and fans believe #3 will happen....

The Redskins fans are hoping #2 happens and this would be the best outcome for Redskins,fans and even Albert as well.

But it also wouldn't surprise me if #1 happens since the continuous strain between Shanny and Albert and we know that Allen and Shanny can be shrewed and are very intelligent and strategic coaches,GM.

I personally think #1 would be a mistake as I think Albert is a very good player and we need his presence on the D-line imo...

#2 would be the best case scenario imo...

#3 seems to be what they are currently going to do and I totally disagree with this handling of it,because I don't think Albert is going to turn a blind eye being a backup or slowly put in the game. If #3 happens,I see no resolve of this issue and we will end up cutting him or trading him for nothing imo...

IMO....You have to start him and deal with him on a game by game basis and decide by week 6,what you want to do...It would also make the decision much easier imo...

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Bah, who cares at this point. If he plays, great, if he doesn't........then whatever.

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Why is this still being discussed?

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For those who care (it has already been all over twitter)

Rich_Campbell

RT @1067thefandc Chris Cooley on the Junkies this am: "Albert's played a lot of the practice team this week." 10 minutes ago via twidroid

Not sure what that really means for this Sunday and beyond

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;730603]For those who care (it has already been all over twitter)

Rich_Campbell

RT @1067thefandc Chris Cooley on the Junkies this am: "Albert's played a lot of the practice team this week." 10 minutes ago via twidroid

Not sure what that really means for this Sunday and beyond[/quote]

Thats not to big of a deal. We only have 7 defensive lineman in a 3-4. Seeing as how we're playing the Cowboys that would only really leave 4 non starters to imitate the Cowboys.

I'd be more worried if we were playing against a 4-3 team seeing as how in that case we have around 11 D-Lineman (Carter, Orakpo, Wlison, and Alexander can all play 4-3 DE).

Also @RedskinsInsider:
Told Redskins have used 1st-, 2nd- and 3rd-stringers on scout team this week. Told this isnt unusual for Shanahan. It is for Haynesworth tho
43 minutes ago via web

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[quote=aceinthehouse;730508]I see 3 scenarios in all this drama...

#1)Start Albert against Dallas and hope he plays inspired football because he's starting,thus increasing his probable very low trade value and trade him by week 6 for picks/players thus weakening the D-Line but getting the best we can in compensation.

#2)Start Albert against Dallas and hope he plays inspired football because we need him and if he plays well,keep him and just deal with him and his character on the team. Drop all trade talks about Albert unless we get an offer we absolutely can't refuse.

#3)Slowly bring Albert along in the D-line rotation as a backup or situational player and see how he handles it. Hopefully all this drama ends and possibly he can earn his way to the starting rotation sooner rather than later. If the problems continues and he mouths off to the media and or causes problems,then trade him to the Titans for what we can get by week 6 or perhaps sooner.

Most media outlets and fans believe #3 will happen....

The Redskins fans are hoping #2 happens and this would be the best outcome for Redskins,fans and even Albert as well.

But it also wouldn't surprise me if #1 happens since the continuous strain between Shanny and Albert and we know that Allen and Shanny can be shrewed and are very intelligent and strategic coaches,GM.

I personally think #1 would be a mistake as I think Albert is a very good player and we need his presence on the D-line imo...

#2 would be the best case scenario imo...

#3 seems to be what they are currently going to do and I totally disagree with this handling of it,because I don't think Albert is going to turn a blind eye being a backup or slowly put in the game. If #3 happens,I see no resolve of this issue and we will end up cutting him or trading him for nothing imo...

IMO..You have to start him and deal with him on a game by game basis and decide by week 6,what you want to do...It would also make the decision much easier imo...[/quote]
I doubt seriously thay we would just out right release AH. I think they would find a way to just suspend him and put him on the PUP list and call it a season. Why just release him that would allow AH to go to another team and make more money.

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for the sake of not starting another AH thread:

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5558920]Source: Albert Haynesworth will play for Washington Redskins on Sunday - ESPN[/url]

looks like he'll be playing on passing downs, hope he proves himself

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:point:There you have it.

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[quote=Kindoy;730943]for the sake of not starting another AH thread:

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5558920"]Source: Albert Haynesworth will play for Washington Redskins on Sunday - ESPN[/URL]

looks like he'll be playing on passing downs, hope he proves himself[/quote]


So essentially the best possible thing for us would be for Ma'ake, Carriker or Golston to sprain an ankle in pre-game.

To not line up Albert in front of that back up Guard and first year left tackle on every play may be the dumbest move Shanahan has ever made. They better effing win if they only play him on 3rd and long.

I don't give a shit what happened in the offseason, tommorow is game day and we need this effing game.

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:Smoker:

Everytime we near the season with this drama it makes me want to start smoking cigarettes again after 9 months

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Man, joe montana is such a douche. Couldn't just leave it the hell alone. Best QB in NFL History, but he has to cast a shadow of doubt about one of the most feel-good stories in sports history. What a ****in asshole.

[url=http://www.thirdage.com/news/rudy-ruettiger-story-sensationalized-says-joe-montana_9-9-2010]Rudy Ruettiger Story Sensationalized, Says Joe Montana | ThirdAge[/url]

Why couldn't he just let Ruettiger have that??????

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[quote=Mechanix544;730975]Man, joe montana is such a douche. Couldn't just leave it the hell alone. Best QB in NFL History, but he has to cast a shadow of doubt about one of the most feel-good stories in sports history. What a ****in asshole.

[url=http://www.thirdage.com/news/rudy-ruettiger-story-sensationalized-says-joe-montana_9-9-2010]Rudy Ruettiger Story Sensationalized, Says Joe Montana | ThirdAge[/url]

Why couldn't he just let Ruettiger have that??????[/quote]

Agreed it was a pretty d-bag thing to say

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Haynesworth better be in on short yardage too.

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[quote=Mechanix544;730975]Man, joe montana is such a douche. Couldn't just leave it the hell alone. Best QB in NFL History, but he has to cast a shadow of doubt about one of the most feel-good stories in sports history. What a ****in asshole.

[url=http://www.thirdage.com/news/rudy-ruettiger-story-sensationalized-says-joe-montana_9-9-2010]Rudy Ruettiger Story Sensationalized, Says Joe Montana | ThirdAge[/url]

Why couldn't he just let Ruettiger have that??????[/quote]

Reality usually isn't picture-perfect. It's not about "doubt"; it's about WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED, and last time I checked, truth is immune to propaganda techniques and emotional sway.

Either the crowds cheered in the movie or they didn't. Joe would probably know.

Either the the players threw in the jerseys or they didn't and it was just the captain asking the coach to put him in. Joe would probably know.

Etc.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;731006]Reality usually isn't picture-perfect. It's not about "doubt"; it's about WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED, and last time I checked, truth is immune to propaganda techniques and emotional sway.

Either the crowds cheered in the movie or they didn't. Joe would probably know.

Either the the players threw in the jerseys or they didn't and it was just the captain asking the coach to put him in. Joe would probably know.

Etc.[/quote]
friend of mine saying haynesworth released