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[quote=SBXVII;687778]I agree with you on the second paragraph, but not so much the first. They definitly are better then our last duo. However I think Allen was let go the same time Gruden was let go. Ownership chose to go in a different direction completely. Similar to our situation with Cerrato. I'm in no way saying Cerrato was awsome and he simply got thrown out with the bath water. I actually think Tampa made a mistake letting him go, but I guess that would mean the Raiders did also. So I could be wrong. Shanahan on the other hand is different. I think he probably would have been allowed to stay had he fired the DC like the owner wanted and brought in someone more qualified. Instead Shanahan was too loyal and wouldn't fire the DC. The owner got tired of the SSDD so he let Shanahan go. He never should have let Shanahan go.

Haslett has his issues. No where has he been that his defenses were top 5. If I'm not mistakent they even drifted down the chart. I'm actually worried about the defensive side of the ball. I hope and pray it turns out dominant but if it's not .... is Shanahan prepared to fire someone and bring in someone better? or will he be too loyal again?[/quote]

We aren't even to the draft, and question of which coach will be fired first...

I guess I wonder, Shanahan basically had all year to contemplate which coaches he would want. Now I have no clue how much time he actually spent doing that, but he certainly wasn't disregarding football. So my question is, if after a year away, and time and resources to "get his guy", if Haslett doesn't pan out, why would any other coach he choose be better.

Finally, I am not sold on Haslett, but I'll at least wait til the season to see how he performs.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;687800]We aren't even to the draft, and question of which coach will be fired first...

I guess I wonder, Shanahan basically had all year to contemplate which coaches he would want. Now I have no clue how much time he actually spent doing that, but he certainly wasn't disregarding football. So my question is, if after a year away, and time and resources to "get his guy", if Haslett doesn't pan out, why would any other coach he choose be better.

[B]Finally, I am not sold on Haslett, but I'll at least wait til the season to see how he performs[/B].[/quote]

Uh, I didn't say I wouldn't? My comment was based off of someone elses comment in regards to Allen, Shanahan, and Haslett not being all that great cause they were fired from their last jobs.

I pointed out that I think Allen is going to be great for us. I respect Shanahan and have always liked what he's brought to the table. So I don't think our Offense will be a problem for the future. My only concern and still is my only concern is defense. I don't have any say in what happens if it works out or not. I think you even eluded to the fact that you have some concern about Haslett as our DC.

Going back to what I was talking about I refered to Shanahan not wanting to fire his DC while in Denver. It's fact. Shanahan stayed too loyal to his DC and got fired. Had Shanahan fired his DC ( who by the way was not getting it done over several seasons) then he might still be working in Denver.

I in no way implied after one season we should can Haslett. What I said was he really has not done anything in the NFL to speak of with any of his defenses and I'm a little concerned. I hope that if ever the time comes that Shanahan has to make a decision about letting someone go who is not getting the job done he does. I'd rather keep Shanahan who is a proven HC vs. having to fire him cause he's being too loyal.

and yes there are better people out there who can do the job better then Haslett.... they just weren't available.

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fair enough, mine was a knee jerk post on a slow moving day.

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I am comfortable with Shanahan as Head Coach and Kyle as Offensive Co-ordinator, but I do have serious reservations about Haslett as Defensive Co-ordinator. His track record suggests he is a short-timer, and his defenses are good the first year or two, but then get progressively worse until he is canned in year 3 or 4.

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[quote=SBXVII;687797]I just don't get this arguement? No we won't have someone AH's size and agility on the OL, but I don't see how we will be helpless? We essentially will have Daniels, kemoeatu, Bryant, Jarmin, Carter, and Orakpo.

Seeing a line of

Daniels, Kemoeatu/Bryant, Jarmin

with LB's of Orakpo and Carter?

Still dominating. Obviously not AH dominating but still dominating.[/quote]

Daniels-OLD
Kemoeatu-Coming back from major injury
Bryant-4th or 5th team he's in, what is that tell you?
Jarmon-Same as Kemoeatu
Carter- Might be gone

God I Love Drunk People
 

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[quote]I don't think it's him but PFT claims it is:
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/13/jerry-jones-video-contains-strong-comments-about-bill-parcells/]Jerry Jones video contains strong comments about Bill Parcells | ProFootballTalk.com[/url][/quote]


[quote]
Star-Telegram:
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[quote]Man 2: What if you were the Jaguars or...would you just, just draft him and sell f-----g jerseys?

Jones: That's the only reason I brought in Bill Parcells.

Jones: Bill's not worth a s--t. I love him.

Man 2: I know you do.

Jones: Not worth a s--t, but I wanted, [B]they were on my ass so bad. J's gotta have a yes man. So to get this f----n' stadium, I need to bring his ass in.[/B][/quote]

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Cheaper option than Marshall and great return skills,

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8177fe7e&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true]Dolphins trying to trade WR Ginn, possibly during next week's draft[/url]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;687870]Cheaper option than Marshall and great return skills,

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8177fe7e&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true]Dolphins trying to trade WR Ginn, possibly during next week's draft[/url][/quote]

Ginn needs a QB to be successful. Brandon Marshall is the type that can get a 1,000 yards with even a second string QB.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;687871]Ginn needs a QB to be successful. Brandon Marshall is the type that can get a 1,000 yards with even a second string QB.[/quote]

No denying Marshall can play, it's his diva attitude I don't like. I think Ginn has the skills and given the chance can be very good. To be honest I would much rather pick Golden Tate if that was possible.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;687870]Cheaper option than Marshall and great return skills,

[URL="http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8177fe7e&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true"]Dolphins trying to trade WR Ginn, possibly during next week's draft[/URL][/quote]
JC to Miami for Ginn and a late round pick, but something tells me that they wouldn't be too fond of picking up JC or giving up a pick

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No way. Ginn is nothing more than a decent kick returner.


Sure we could use one, but they'd be getting the better end of that deal.

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yeah, i'm not interested in Ginn at all. i think moss, thomas, kelly, and mitchell are all better than him.

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[quote=Buster;688089]No way. Ginn is nothing more than a decent kick returner.

Sure we could use one, but they'd be getting the better end of that deal.[/quote]
Yeah but what's the going rate for JC? Ginn is prob worth a 5th or 6th according to reports.. then throw in another pick? I know that Ginn is known for his vertical speed but maybe he could do something in the slot? Or does he not have the cojones to go over the middle?

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[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Ginn,_Jr]Ted Ginn, Jr. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url].

Sounds like he's Carlos's lost twin brother.

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does anyone else think it is telling that we havent resigned levi jones, a ufa, that started a significant amount of games as our LT last year? granted he didnt do a great job, but i feel like a big reason not to resign him is because you are going to take someone at his position early in the draft. thoughts?

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[quote=johno;688126]does anyone else think it is telling that we havent resigned levi jones, a ufa, that started a significant amount of games as our LT last year? granted he didnt do a great job, but i feel like a big reason not to resign him is because you are going to take someone at his position early in the draft. thoughts?[/quote]
I don't feel like it has anything to do with what we're going to draft. Mostly because he isn't very good and if he's anything like last year, wants to start at LT.

I think that we'll go LT, but not re-signing Levi probably has little to nothing to do with it.

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[quote=johno;688126]does anyone else think it is telling that we havent resigned levi jones, a ufa, that started a significant amount of games as our LT last year? granted he didnt do a great job, but i feel like a big reason not to resign him is because you are going to take someone at his position early in the draft. thoughts?[/quote]

Not surprised. They'll probably wait to see how the draft shakes out and will probably look to re-sign him before training camp

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[quote=SmootSmack;688141]Not surprised. They'll probably wait to see how the draft shakes out and will probably look to re-sign him before training camp[/quote]
So he's an actual target for us?

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;688122][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Ginn,_Jr"]Ted Ginn, Jr. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/URL].

Sounds like he's Carlos's lost twin brother.[/quote]


This is off topic but I thought it was hilarious when Carlos was holding up fingers in front of Smoot after Fred got knocked out in Texas stadium.

And any interview with Carlos is funny. He is a clown.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;688122][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Ginn,_Jr"]Ted Ginn, Jr. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/URL].

Sounds like he's Carlos's lost twin brother.[/quote]
No way, Ginn was actually moved to receiver due to his ability to catch. Though maybe they should try him at DB after last year.

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[quote=SmootSmack;688141]Not surprised. They'll probably wait to see how the draft shakes out and will probably look to re-sign him before training camp[/quote]

I've heard we made an offer to him, but he didn't take it as of yet.
How about any smoke signals linking the skins to TO?

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Not worth a new thread to me:



RT @RedskinsDotCom: Latest #Redskins to sign RFA contracts: Stephon Heyer & Anthony Montgomery. Team to announce signings on Wed.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;688294]Not worth a new thread to me:



RT @RedskinsDotCom: Latest #Redskins to sign RFA contracts: Stephon Heyer & Anthony Montgomery. Team to announce signings on Wed.[/quote]

Montgomery is a guy the Rams for one have expressed interest in...so when we trade Montgomery in a deal that gets us Carriker from the Rams, then it will be new thread worthy

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[quote=SmootSmack;688303]Montgomery is a guy the Rams for one have expressed interest in...so when we trade Montgomery in a deal that gets us Carriker from the Rams, then it will be new thread worthy[/quote]

You say this as if you know for a certainty that this will transpire. What is it - Monty, Carter, and Haynesworth for Carriker and the Rams 2nd?

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;688307]You say this as if you know for a certainty that this will transpire. What is it - Monty, Carter, and Haynesworth for Carriker and the Rams 2nd?[/quote]

Um yeah sure, throw in Atogwe too. Why not?

Nothing is a certainty

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;688307]You say this as if you know for a certainty that this will transpire. What is it - Monty, Carter, and Haynesworth for Carriker and the Rams 2nd?[/quote]

This propose might sound good, but who would we have playing DTs and LB if we trade them all? Carriker probably will take over DE but we can't expect to depend on Kemo- (I can't spell his name) and Golston to play DT all the time?

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[quote=SmootSmack;688303]Montgomery is a guy the Rams for one have expressed interest in...so when we trade Montgomery in a deal that gets us Carriker from the Rams, then it will be new thread worthy[/quote]Montgomery did always seem to have his best games against the Giants, which could be what is driving the Rams' interest.

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According to Jason LaCanfra: NT Howard Green is visiting the Redskins for 2 days.

^it's half way down the page. Post #11.

The thread though is about the Skins signing DT Greg Peterson. Apparently drafted by Bucs when Allen was there. He's with the Jags now.

[url=http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=321555]Russell: Redskins will sign DE Greg Peterson - EXTREMESKINS.com[/url]

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The Redskins are hosting free agent DT Howard Green on Wednesday.
The Redskins are expected to sign free agent DL Greg Peterson shortly
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All the signing on the DL , looks like Haynesworth might be dealt on draft day??

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Our D-Line is looking pretty damn good now to be honest. It's definetely better the Bronco's going into last year and they ended up ranked 7th in overall defense, of course it would have been higher if they didn't collapse down the strech. Kemo, Haynesworth, Daniels is a very respectable 3-4 D-Line. My concern right now has more to do with McIntosh, Fletcher, and even Blades making the transition to ILB. Personally I would love to have Rolando McClain but thats just a pipe dream.

[quote=ChickenMonkey;688337]The Redskins are hosting free agent DT Howard Green on Wednesday.
The Redskins are expected to sign free agent DL Greg Peterson shortly
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All the signing on the DL , looks like Haynesworth might be dealt on draft day??[/quote]

Even without Haynesworth we still have the tools to be successful in the 3-4 on the defensive line albeit not nearly as much with "Fatal Bert." Then again we should count on 4 games without Haynesworth this year if he stays.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;688339]Our D-Line is looking pretty damn good now to be honest. It's definetely better the Bronco's going into last year and they ended up ranked 7th in overall defense, of course it would have been higher if they didn't collapse down the strech. Kemo, Haynesworth, Daniels is a very respectable 3-4 D-Line. My concern right now has more to do with McIntosh, Fletcher, and even Blades making the transition to ILB. Personally I would love to have Rolando McClain but thats just a pipe dream.



Even without Haynesworth we still have the tools to be successful in the 3-4 on the defensive line albeit not nearly as much with "Fatal Bert." Then again we should count on 4 games without Haynesworth this year if he stays.[/quote]

I don't think we have the talent at linebacker to be very good at the 3-4 yet. Especially since we don't know how Rocky and Fletch are going to fit in.

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[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d817854e4&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true]Haynesworth avoiding Redskins' voluntary minicamp; trade possible[/url]

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^^^^
It seems like every year there is a diffrent team with the same problem. I hope we dont do a stupid trade where we spend all this money and just come out with a second rounder for AH, He is a monster and if Shanny screws this up it's going to be hard for me to get totally behind Shanny. AH was a hell of a player and teammate last year.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;688307]You say this as if you know for a certainty that this will transpire. What is it - Monty, Carter, and Haynesworth for Carriker and the Rams 2nd?[/quote]


I hope the Rams add in a bottle of lube or that trade is really going to hurt.

What a joke of a trade that would be.

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^^ Agreed Warpaint. He was an abosolute beast on the goaline.

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[quote=warpaint;688345]^^^^
It seems like every year there is a diffrent team with the same problem. I hope we dont do a stupid trade where we spend all this money and just come out with a second rounder for AH, He is a monster and if Shanny screws this up it's going to be hard for me to get totally behind Shanny. AH was a hell of a player and teammate last year.[/quote]

I am right there with you.

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If Fat Albert cant get on board the Redskins Team concept train. SCREW EM...I like Haynesworth as a player but, weve gotta have a good team atmosphere....

If the Rams offer Carriker and thier 2nd Round pick, Id jump all over it.....
Im sure a good 3-4 OLB or ILB would be avaliable early in the 2nd!!!!

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Who is this Greg Peterson?

[url=http://twitter.com/Russellmania09/status/12188715641]Twitter / Chris Russell: Per a #NFL source - #Redsk ...[/url]

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[quote=backrow;688484]Who is this Greg Peterson?

[URL="http://twitter.com/Russellmania09/status/12188715641"]Twitter / Chris Russell: Per a #NFL source - #Redsk ...[/URL][/quote]
Would be sweet if we were scouting guys other than Allen's former signees. That's one of the most annoying things when a new regime takes over, new coordinator comes in. I know that we're not guaranteed to keep him or anything.

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