Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

[quote=Monkeydad;1054386]2006 Antwaan Randel El vs. Colts (PR)



Wait, what? How?[/quote]

I remember that, but I am pretty sure Moss had one too when Devin Thomas (Yep, that gem of a pick) Ran directly into him at the start of it.

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

[quote=jamf;1054385]With McVay as OC, will Cooley try to make a comeback?

Normally I'm all for getting younger and faster players but we don't have anyone at TE and Gruden runs a two TE system.

Reed is talented but I don't think anyone can expect him to play more than 10 games next year.[/quote]

1. He had a concussion. That can happen to anyone and coming back is a fight against the doctors and the league office.

2. He was a rookie.

3. He didn't blow a knee or break anything, he got bumped on the head.

4. The season was lost, he was shut down like Griffin to save them for next year.

5. Paulsen is a decent backup.

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1054387]I remember that, but I am pretty sure Moss had one too when Devin Thomas (Yep, that gem of a pick) Ran directly into him at the start of it.[/quote]

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Seriously looked like Thomas was trying to tackle him!

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

Also, Brandon Tate is a FA, you could sign him cheap to return kicks.

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

[quote=Dirtbag59;1054303]Went to check on a couple of stories on Washington Post concerning Gruden and come to find out that they've been limiting people to 20 free articles per month since June.

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Granted it seems I can get around it with Incognito mode in Chrome but still the attempt to use paywall as a revenue stream is absurd. In terms of Redskins related news they weren't even in the top 5. It's beyond me how someone can get to an upper management position and not understand basic concepts concerning the internet. All they see is 'x amount of people read us online so if we charge them we'll be rich.' Sorry I know I'm late to this party but the stupidity of some of these companies is enough to drive me insane.

Anyway Jay Gruden. Good hire. Kind of preferred Wisenhunt but certainly not disappointed with JG. Slightly concerned that most of the staff is already in place. A little bit of deja vu from the Zorn train wreck. Would kind of like to see a switch back to the 4-3 but unfortunately we are very short on traditional linebackers right now, a problem which plagued the Eagles for many years after the death of Johnson.[/quote]



I don't know about that I like the idea of Rak with his hand in the dirt he will dominate there, have Rob Jackson and Kerrigan as the OLB's Riley and Robinson in the Middle (or draft Shayne Skov) and then have the pass rush specialist Chris Jenkins out of FSU we drafted last year as the other starting DE or Bowen. Cofield and Jarvis Jenkins would be great 4-3 tackles.

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

[quote=Monkeydad;1054389]1. He had a concussion. That can happen to anyone and coming back is a fight against the doctors and the league office.

2. He was a rookie.

3. He didn't blow a knee or break anything, he got bumped on the head.

4. The season was lost, he was shut down like Griffin to save them for next year.

5. Paulsen is a decent backup.[/quote]


1. He missed games with a bruised thigh and other injuries.

2. He was a rookie so we have no proven history with him other than getting injured.

3. True but he doesn't play dinged up and every player gets dinged up. You can't have a part time TE as your go to guy. You have to find a way to play.

4. can't argue with this.

5. He is but this will be a two TE system and I wouldn't want Paulsen to start. He is a horrible blocker and too slow to get downfield.

I wonder what is going to happen with the interior Oline.

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

[quote=jamf;1054397]1. He missed games with a bruised thigh and other injuries.

2. He was a rookie so we have no proven history with him other than getting injured.

3. True but he doesn't play dinged up and every player gets dinged up. You can't have a part time te as your go to guy. You have to find a way to play.

4. Can't argue with this.

5. He is but this will be a two te system and i wouldn't want paulsen to start. He is a horrible blocker and too slow to get downfield.

[b]i wonder what is going to happen with the interior oline.[/b][/quote]


walk the plank!

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

What is ths fixation with moving back to the 4-3? Why do people believe that's going to magically solve the issue? We've had 4 years now in the 3-4 and our personnel all along has been built to conform to it.

Why not go get some better guys who can play with the system we have?

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

[quote=jamf;1054385]With McVay as OC, will Cooley try to make a comeback?

Normally I'm all for getting younger and faster players but we don't have anyone at TE and Gruden runs a two TE system.

Reed is talented but I don't think anyone can expect him to play more than 10 games next year.[/quote]


Cooley for TE coach

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[quote=Coff;1054378]I think he's shown over the past few years that he is more willing to defer to expert opinions.[/quote]

Read the article in Sunday's WaPo and you will see that isnt true. If the experts agree with him then he goes with their opinion if not then he goes with his opinion. 2 examples cited in the article. He wanted to draft Malcom Kelly (the experts had big issues with his health) and the experts wanted Jordy Nelson. You know the rest. Shanny wanted Bulger but DS wanted McNabb who was a bigger more marketable name. Again, you know the rest.

It seems like DS's best PR move has been to get the public to think he's defered to the experts. He hasnt.

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

[quote=Monkeydad;1054341]I'd pilfer the bolded. Imagine Hawkins and Aldrick Robinson running streaks beside each other...we'd have the fastest WR corps in the league. He'd also make a great returner for us.

A punter named Zoltan? You can't let that once-in-a-lifetime opportunity pass you by.[/quote]

I am TOTALLY down with a punter named Zoltan. (By the way, wasn't that the name of the wizard in Big who granted Tom Hanks' wish?) Kickers named Cobra Kai and Zoltan. Speacial teams has already improved.

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

[quote=Monkeydad;1054386]2006 Antwaan Randel El vs. Colts (PR)



Wait, what? How?[/quote]



That is one every two years that means we will have two this year to make up for the lost one in 12'

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I like Cooley as an announcer, he seems to have good connections, and good insight. Off topic I know, but let him stay there and be a staple for years to come.

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

[quote=Beemnseven;1054399]What is ths fixation with moving back to the 4-3? Why do people believe that's going to magically solve the issue? We've had 4 years now in the 3-4 and our personnel all along has been built to conform to it.

Why not go get some better guys who can play with the system we have?[/quote]

It is not going to magically solve everything, but I personally feel we've always had a 4-3 personnel or at least defensive players with mostly 4-3 experience. And I think there are two huge benefits about going back to this scheme:

1. Cofield has been a very good NT, but I think he will be an even better 4-3 DT

2. Rak/Kerrigan can become our own version of Freeney/Mathis.

Regardless of the scheme, we need to fill some key areas (LBs and Safeties).

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

[quote=Beemnseven;1054399]What is ths fixation with moving back to the 4-3? Why do people believe that's going to magically solve the issue? We've had 4 years now in the 3-4 and our personnel all along has been built to conform to it.

Why not go get some better guys who can play with the system we have?[/quote]

I think it's because Haslett is naturally a 4-3 coordinator. Also, Kerrigan and Orakpo would be much more effective pass rushers as DEs in the 4-3. I've never been a fan of the 3-4, so I would welcome the change.