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GTripp0012 08-27-2011 07:28 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)
 
[quote=Bucket;828394]I think your hatred for one of the best CB's the Redskins have ever had is pretty mindbogglingly. It's obvious to the whole community your are anti-Hall[/quote]Except I'm not even remotely anti-Hall. It's silly to say that.

I had a problem with what Hall did on Thursday. It was disgraceful. I was very much anti-Hall apologist to that action. Sorry if I offended you.

JoeRedskin 08-27-2011 07:44 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)
 
[quote=Bucket;828394]I think your hatred for [B]one of the best CB's the Redskins have ever had [/B]is pretty mindbogglingly. It's obvious to the whole community your are anti-Hall[/quote]

Umm, no. He is not in the top 5 of "ever had" and I would trade him tomorrow for Smoot in his prime.

Parrish, Fisher, Bailey, Smoot, Springs, Green, ...

Hall is in the same class as Barry Wilburn, Rogers, Joe Lavender, Cris Dishman & Tom Carter. All these guys had there moments but were replaceable. Same as Hall.

At the same time, GTripp is in denial of Hall Hatred! ;)

GTripp0012 08-27-2011 07:46 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;828407]At the same time, GTripp is in denial of Hall Hatred! ;)[/quote]No I'm not!

I want my Carlos Rogers jersey!

Hog1 08-27-2011 07:49 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)
 
HALL Hater...EHhhh?
I'll be PM'ing you my Haynesworth J........

GTripp0012 08-27-2011 07:57 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)
 
Wait, timeout, I need someone to tell me whether or not I'm a Haynesworth hater. I totally don't know who I hate anymore.

Can somebody please help me?

Bucket 08-27-2011 08:16 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;828407]Umm, no. He is not in the top 5 of "ever had" and I would trade him tomorrow for Smoot in his prime.

Parrish, Fisher, Bailey, Smoot, Springs, Green, ...

Hall is in the same class as Barry Wilburn, Rogers, Joe Lavender, Cris Dishman & Tom Carter. All these guys had there moments but were replaceable. Same as Hall.

At the same time, GTripp is in denial of Hall Hatred! ;)[/quote]

Considering he's only 27, and had his best season in his career last year. I would say he's not replaceable...

12thMan 08-27-2011 08:42 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)
 
JoeRedskin, Smoot better than Hall? Really?

doughtydoubter 08-27-2011 08:47 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)
 
[quote=GTripp0012;828413]Wait, timeout, I need someone to tell me whether or not I'm a Haynesworth hater. I totally don't know who I hate anymore.

Can somebody please help me?[/quote]

ummm isnt everybody supposed to hate fat al at this point?? Hes like the guy that stole your chocolate milk at lunch and then whipped your a$$ because he thought it was funny...whoa..that just brought back some repressed memories..

SFREDSKIN 08-27-2011 08:52 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)
 
Here's some entertaining reading:

[url=http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=79054]NFL Forum :: - DeAngelo Hall rips Steve Smith...[/url]

mooby 08-27-2011 09:33 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)
 
[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;828359]UPDATED: Finally had a chance to review the game. Hopefully this is a preview of a weekly SS33 Game Review.

OL - Huge improvement from last year. Familiarity with the ZB scheme is helping the guys from last year. I finally saw an important component of the ZB scheme that was missing last year.....the cut blocks. On the Hightower TD, the cut from KL took down two Ravens and opened the cutback lane. I specifically saw good two good cuts by TW and another by KL. Didn't notice any from Brown/Chester, but hope they're coming.

Monty at C, without bashing ol' turnstile Rabach for a paragraph, let's just say Monty is a huge upgrade at C. The only bad play from him was a mis-communication between him and Chester that allowed the DT to shoot the A gap and blow up a run. Monty went 2nd level too early and Chester couldn't reach the DT.

Pass-pro is much improved. Not seeing the OL getting beaten with a 4 or 5 man rush. The OL is getting at worst a stalemate in pass-pro, which is a win and big improvement from last year where our OL were not only doing a poor job of blitz pick-up, but were losing individual battles.

Blitz Pick-up - An area that needs work, but with new players at C, RG, RB and TE this should improve and is an area that can be "coached up". TW has to get better at reading overload C-gap pressure and stay home rather than get sucked down to the B gap. Brown and Chester need to improve communication in passing the rushers between them. The blitz pick-up appears to be more of an issue on Brown's side. Hopefully by game 4-5 Brown, Chester and the backs/Davis will have settled in.

Davis is much improved in blocking and appears to be taking pride in this effort here. He still has work to do in blitz pick-up, but the run blocking appears to be coming along well and he's showing "want-to".

Hightower looks to be a great fit, excellent cut in the open field on the TD, also excellent explosion and "second gear" which we haven't had in our backfield in quite some time. He did well in pass-pro, another good "want to" showing.

Austin has earned a roster spot. Sure hands, making plays, appears to have a good grasp on his responsibilities.

Our O faced the Ravens 1st team D and played well, I wouldn't say "dominated" but they did win the battle up front and displayed a very good effort all around.

DL - Very pleased here. Cofield is showing why he was the most improtant off-season acquisition. He holds his ground in the run game and creates pressure in the pass game. The base 3-4 rush and 4-man front are getting pressure without needing blitz support....huge improvement from last year. I really like the even front with Rak and Kerrigan off the edges and Cofield and possibly Carriker/Bowen/Scott (JJ loss is awful, overall we'll be fine but he was a pleasant surprise).

Not real happy with Bowen's pre-snap stance (I get in a similar stance in the early AM), but he's doing his job so far.

I think Scott earned himself a roster spot with his versatility and effort. He created good pressure in pass rush and held up well in the run game overall.

Defensive Secondary: We've discussed Hall in other posts so I won't repeat.

Rushkins made a great post on this earlier. We are going to be hurt by not having OJA and LL on the field together in camp and pre-season. There were two specific plays where OJA was completely lost/out of position. The one that hurt most was the Boldin cross. OJA gets sucked out of his zone by the post and Boldin comes underneath into his vacated zone for a big play. I initially thought Hall got sucked up on a flat route, but a closer look showed a Cover 3 Zone deep and OJA was the culprit. Also, our youngsters didn't play particularly well, Gomes and Jones didn't help their cause.

Rak looked very good, Kerrigan too. Not worried about the penalties on 91, they're effort penalties and will be corrected. I'd like to see Neild make the team, he's doing a good job holding his ground and taking up space in the run game. He got a good push in pass rush, but I don't think he'll ever be considered a sack threat.

I liked the playcalls by Haslett. Good mix on D, different looks, coverages, blitzes.

I think Locklear, Golston, and Clemens can be cut.

And finally.....Beck vs. Rex. Beck has a better grasp of the O. He's making the correct reads and quick/accurate throws. The deep INT appeared to be a miscommunication between him and Stallworth that will be corrected once the final 53 is determined and they get familiar with each other. Beck led him in, Stallworth was looking out. If in doubt, throw it out(side) should be the rule of thumb....less chance for INT. Or Beck just made a $hitty throw....but I think it was the former.

Rex is still the same guy, great throws in stretches, but too many poor throws/reads that will kill drives and lose games. Before the TD, Smith should've picked him on a VERY poor throw. That being said Moss dropped a TD right before that. Rex also doesn't identify the blitz and coverage quite as quickly as Beck does.

SS, 12th, 53, thanks for the kind words. Any reviews I do are Warpath Exclusives :) I'll do my best to keep them up every week.[/quote]

SS33, your value to this site should never be in question. Great job.

Hog1 08-27-2011 09:55 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)
 
It IS nice work SS. I was afraid to tell you as it might go to your head and you become......"The Ego".

12thMan 08-27-2011 09:59 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)
 
SS33, written like a true Democrat.

Giantone 08-27-2011 10:04 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)
 
[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;828359]UPDATED: Finally had a chance to review the game. Hopefully this is a preview of a weekly SS33 Game Review.

OL - Huge improvement from last year. Familiarity with the ZB scheme is helping the guys from last year. I finally saw an important component of the ZB scheme that was missing last year.....the cut blocks. On the Hightower TD, the cut from KL took down two Ravens and opened the cutback lane. I specifically saw good two good cuts by TW and another by KL. Didn't notice any from Brown/Chester, but hope they're coming.

.[/quote]

Couple of things here 1) love the review SS33 I'm on a few boards and you are definetly one of the best at what you do.
2) I love ZB...I believe more teams should do it.
3)CUT BLOCKS= chop blocks and those are illegal.......Shannahan has a bad rep when it come to this his lines in Denver were called "dirty" at times,the O line has to be careful ...

53Fan 08-28-2011 12:26 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)
 
"Rak looked very good, Kerrigan too. Not worried about the penalties on 91, they're effort penalties and will be corrected. I'd like to see Neild make the team, he's doing a good job holding his ground and taking up space in the run game. He got a good push in pass rush, but I don't think he'll ever be considered a sack threat."

Good stuff Sammy. Good to hear about Kerrigan and I agree about the penalties. He's young, aggressive, and motivated. He'll be fine. Really excited about our Linebacking corps this year! I'd also like to see Neild make the team. Good nose tackles are hard to come by and it's always nice to have a good young back up in case of injury or to give the starter a breather.

tmandoug1 08-28-2011 09:46 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)
 
Let the Hall thing go please, the horse is dead. With that being said I like our chances, D looks great, offense is ten times better than the past 5 years and we have finally scored more than twenty points against a good team. I personally cannot wait for the season to start. Go skins!!!!!!


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