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KI Skins Fan 01-10-2014 10:33 AM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
I HATE revisionist history! Haslett sucks and you all know it!

How many more times are you willing to endure Haslett letting Dallas off the hook on a key FOURTH down play by calling some stupid defense that causes us to lose the game? He's done that more than once, you know.

Trust your own eyes and remember the misery that he has put us through.

GTripp0012 01-10-2014 10:34 AM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
[quote=HailGreen28;1054679]Yeah, which I and I think some others disagree on. Holding teams to FGs for example matters a lot to me. If you aren't talking yds/game *and* pts/game, you aren't accurately describing a D's ranking in the league, IMO.

The Chris Russel quote cherry picks a couple favorable stats on a below average D the last couple years. "Don't understand the hate" he says? Guess he thinks we should be happy with a bottom third defense.[/quote]The Redskins were way worse on defense in the red zone this year than they had been at any point in the past eight. I don't really know why this was though. One of the things that the defense had been consistently good at no matter the coordinator or players was getting stops in short yardage. This year, they couldn't get off the field, and they were even worse in the red zone.

But the football outsiders ranking accounts for that struggle, so I don't know that the defense was necessarily worse.

HailGreen28 01-10-2014 10:35 AM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1054659]What do you get out of being so negative?[/quote]I think I'm being realistic. Jon Gruden and Haslett's recent history isn't that good.

Negative would be suggesting getting Gruden and keeping Haslett is the best we could do, because nobody really good will work for Snyder. Like it's the Zorn situation all over again, we only made him HC after everybody really good turned us down.

KI Skins Fan 01-10-2014 10:51 AM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
[quote=HailGreen28;1054684]I think I'm being realistic. Jon Gruden and Haslett'ss recent history isn't that good.

Negative would be suggesting getting Gruden and keeping Haslett is the best we could do, because nobody really good will work for Snyder. Like it's the Zorn situation all over again, we only made him HC after everybody really good turned us down.[/quote]

No, negartive would be writing dumb-ass lyrics and posting them here so others can wallow in negativity with you. I prefer to look at the hiring of a new HC as a time for optimism.

I hate to pick on your post. There are plenty of other people who post here who need to elevate their sights, as well. Yours was just a negative post too far for me.

As for Haslett, I agree that he is a piss-poor DC and I want him gone, too. But he hasn't been announced as the DC yet, so let's see what happens. Even if he does become the DC, that doesn't necessarily doom us to losing.

I will now get off of your case.

HailGreen28 01-10-2014 10:56 AM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1054685]No, negartive would be writing dumb-ass lyrics and posting them here so others can wallow in negativity with you. I prefer to look at the hiring of a new HC as a time for optimism.

I hate to pick on your post. There are plenty of other people who post here who need to elevate their sights, as well. Yours was just a negative post too far for me.

As for Haslett, I agree that he is a piss-poor DC and I want him gone, too. But he hasn't been announced as the DC yet, so let's see what happens. Even if he does become the DC, that doesn't necessarily doom us to losing.

I will now get off of your case.[/quote]Appreciate it, you're fine. Big difference between calling someone dumb, and their argument dumb. The second one's OK IMO.

What was dumb about the lyrics? That Gruden isn't a household name? That Gruden and Haslett don't really have a lot going for them based on their teams recent performances?

skinsguy 01-10-2014 11:07 AM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
Everyone who's going to find something wrong about this franchise, whether if it is warranted or not, will color themselves as realists. It's not the first time we're hearing this kind of stuff - from the words of Bon Jovi, "It's all the same, only the names will change...".

People's opinions are easily swayed by the likes of the Washington Post, and they'll always assume the worst because they think anything Mike Wise, Jason Reid, or Sally Jenkins writes is pure gospel. Anybody who tries to challenge them with a brighter outlook is going to be pegged as fans who won't take of the rose-colored glasses.

Right now, there's absolutely no reason to bitch and complain about this hire, or the fact that Jim Haslett is still on the coaching staff. Jay Gruden is yet to even get started yet. Why is it too much to ask to wait and see what he does in assembling a complete staff?

And in terms of the hire itself, the franchise was looking for a candidate that best fits the team. I think Jay has the potential to be the right guy for the job. Time will tell and I'm not going sit here and cheer that this is a great hire nor am I going to sit here and sulk that he's the wrong guy. None of us really truly know until this guy gets in there and starts putting things together. But, I will say this - this is NOT another Jim Zorn hire. Gruden has experience as a head coach - albeit not yet in the NFL. He's been a leader of men. And after watching the presser yesterday, I don't get any type of timid "Zorn Like" qualities where it would make me think the guy would lose a locker room. He's a young coach who looks like he has that "fire in the belly" and wanting to achieve great things as a head coach.

In the end, we'll see. Let's just be glad that this team has found a head coach who's not 100 years old and not power hungry. I think we have a good guy, I'm excited to see what he does.

KI Skins Fan 01-10-2014 11:17 AM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
[quote=HailGreen28;1054686]Appreciate it, you're fine. Big difference between calling someone dumb, and their argument dumb. The second one's OK IMO.

What was dumb about the lyrics? That Gruden isn't a household name? That Gruden and Haslett don't really have a lot going for them based on their team's recent performances?[/quote]

I might have enjoyed the lyrics at some other time. Right now, I just wish that we could all enjoy Redskins football again. Personally, I refuse to let losing get me down.

I was lucky because I was a Redskins fan when George Allen and Joe Gibbs (Version I) coached here. Back then, we knew we could beat anybody and we believed that we were never out of a game. It was a great time!

I want every Redskins fan to enjoy the Redskins the way we did back then. In a way, I must believe that Jay Gruden could be the same type of fortunate hire that Joe Gibbs turned out to be. I believe that one man, the right Head Coach, can make the difference between winning and losing. If Jay Gruden is the right man, I believe we can be good again for a decade or more.

SkinsGuru 01-10-2014 11:29 AM

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[quote=HailGreen28;1054666]What the hell?

[url=http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&season=2013&seasonType=REG&role=OPP&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-p=1&conference=ALL&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&d-447263-s=TOTAL_POINTS_GAME_AVG]NFL Stats: by Team Category[/url]

Haslett's D was tied for next to worst (#30) in giving up points in 2013. #18 ranked D in giving up yards.

For 2012, Haslett's D was tied for being ranked #20 in points given up. #28 ranked D in giving up yards.

For 2011, Haslett's D was ranked #21 in points given up. #13 ranked D in yards.

So Haslett's D was mediocre in 2011, and bad in 2012 and 2013. Sure, let's keep him on our staff! I don't understand the hate either! lol.

Is Chris Russel trolling, or what? Reminds me how how numbers are spun in politics: There's lies, damned lies, and statistics![/quote]

lets not forget that the offense, while moving the ball well, had a ton of turnovers . . . that is going to lead to the defense giving up more points too . . . so while the 18th ranking for yards is not a good measurement by itself . . . either is the points allowed as that is skewed by the offensive turnovers and the special teams blunders too . . . so i would say more in the middle like a 24 to 25 ranking . . . not good no matter how you look at it

SFREDSKIN 01-10-2014 11:51 AM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1054682]I HATE revisionist history! Haslett sucks and you all know it!

How many more times are you willing to endure Haslett letting Dallas off the hook on a key FOURTH down play by calling some stupid defense that causes us to lose the game? He's done that more than once, you know.

Trust your own eyes and remember the misery that he has put us through.[/quote]

Couldn't agree more, they should go after Horton.

Lotus 01-10-2014 12:03 PM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1054690]I might have enjoyed the lyrics at some other time. Right now, I just wish that we could all enjoy Redskins football again. Personally, I refuse to let losing get me down.

[B]I was lucky because I was a Redskins fan when George Allen and Joe Gibbs (Version I) coached here. Back then, we knew we could beat anybody and we believed that we were never out of a game. It was a great time! [/B]

I want every Redskins fan to enjoy the Redskins the way we did back then. In a way, I must believe that Jay Gruden could be the same type of fortunate hire that Joe Gibbs turned out to be. I believe that one man, the right Head Coach, can make the difference between winning and losing. If Jay Gruden is the right man, I believe we can be good again for a decade or more.[/quote]

The salad days. It was an awesome time as a Skins fan.

JoeRedskin 01-10-2014 12:26 PM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1054690]I might have enjoyed the lyrics at some other time. Right now, I just wish that we could all enjoy Redskins football again. Personally, I refuse to let losing get me down.

[B]I was lucky because I was a Redskins fan when George Allen and Joe Gibbs (Version I) coached here. Back then, we knew we could beat anybody and we believed that we were never out of a game. It was a great time! [/B]

I want every Redskins fan to enjoy the Redskins the way we did back then. In a way, I must believe that Jay Gruden could be the same type of fortunate hire that Joe Gibbs turned out to be. I believe that one man, the right Head Coach, can make the difference between winning and losing. If Jay Gruden is the right man, I believe we can be good again for a decade or more.[/quote]

My kids are 6 and 10. They kind of like the Skins b/c of me and but we are in the heart of Ravens land and there is a lot of pressure on them to buy in both from friends and b/c, as kids, they want to root for winners.

I desperately need a "salad days" type run to firmly cement them into Redskins Nation for life.

irish 01-10-2014 12:29 PM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1054682]I HATE revisionist history! Haslett sucks and you all know it!

How many more times are you willing to endure Haslett letting Dallas off the hook on a key FOURTH down play by calling some stupid defense that causes us to lose the game? He's done that more than once, you know.

Trust your own eyes and remember the misery that he has put us through.[/quote]

Amen Brother! All this "he didnt do such a bad job" talk is a joke. He was terrible. Haslett should have been gone before Shanny.

CRedskinsRule 01-10-2014 12:58 PM

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[quote=irish;1054716]Amen Brother! All this "he didnt do such a bad job" talk is a joke. He was terrible. Haslett should have been gone before Shanny.[/quote]

I wanted Haslett gone at the bye. I said I would be sick if he stayed.

Now, with visions of sugarplums dancing in my head, I am thinking - Shanny ruined many a DC's career in Denver. The stories that Cooley and others have shared about Haslett getting overturned and micromanaged by Shanny make a lot of sense to me. And then there is the relationship he has with JG and the experience that he could bring to the table.

So, right now, I am at the abyss, I have accepted that he may stay as an assistant head coach - Defense, where he might have some input both to the DC and to JG, but is not actively calling the D, or planning the scheme. If DS is paying him anyway, you might as well get some value from him.

But if they fire him tomorrow, I will still have a big smile :)

Chico23231 01-10-2014 01:00 PM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
[quote=irish;1054716]Amen Brother! All this "he didnt do such a bad job" talk is a joke. He was terrible. Haslett should have been gone before Shanny.[/quote]

agree

donofriose 01-10-2014 01:06 PM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
Hasleet should have been in the same boat as Shanahan.

They both did nothing to prove that they should keep their positions.

Alvin Walton 01-10-2014 01:12 PM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
Huge reason to be optimistic because of process of elimination.
Heres why -

There are basically 4 kinds of ways to get a coach.

A.The college favorite.
B.The wild card.
C.The retread.
D.The up and coming coordinator.

A - Spurrier
B - Zorn
C - Shanahan
D - Gruden

We eliminated all the ones that don't work.
We cant lose!
:joecool:

skinsnut 01-10-2014 01:19 PM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
Let's take a historical view of the last hire

Bruce Allen Hire
Biggest Change, everyone thrilled..we finally have a GM! Although the teams he fielded were somewhat average, and he was known as an average GM
Many considered Best Move

Shanny Hire
Solid hire all around, 2X superbowl champ, specialized in offense. His defenses were generally average at best. Knock was he was never a winner without Elway.
Many considered 2nd Best Move

Shanny Jr.
Produced fantastic results with the Texans. Thought to be groomable as our next head coach. Some had concerns about Dad/Son thing, but not most
Considered a good move
Many considered 3rd Best Move...some argued better move than his Dad

Haslett
Always produced below average defenses over a couple decades. Stunk as a head coach. Many scratched heads wondering why him...many pointed out Shanny hires weak D coordinators. Most were so happy about a GM and a real coach to overlook what many saw as a missed opportunity. But, it was explained to us that Shanny wanted a 3-4, and Haslett would convert us, so we bought in.

NOW:
Shanny(s) cut:
Produced top offenses, wasn't really the problem on the field as the offense was fine (other than player failures and oline talent/RG3 struggles) Major problem is infighting occured...and they needed to axe someone. I wasn't a fan of Shanny...but I didn't see him as the problem as much as Snyder/RG3 immaturity. lack of comments by Allen when needed, etc. Shanny Jr was fine, but should have adjusted more this year.

Haslett
The biggest problem with the team, outside of our 1st yr special teams coach
He should have been fired long ago. No improvement. team sucked, deflated any offense success....almost horrible.

Overall:
The team would have been better off keeping Shanny and team and getting a Wade Phillips d coordinator and new special teams coach....instead....they did the exact opposite.

The main reason Shanny was fired was his record, and the infighting dilema.
Had Shanny demanded a new defensive coordinator and handled his players better, he might still be here. Shanny is not a bad coach, Haslett is.

donofriose 01-10-2014 01:24 PM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
[quote=skinsnut;1054735]Let's take a historical view of the last hire

Bruce Allen Hire
Biggest Change, everyone thrilled..we finally have a GM! Although the teams he fielded were somewhat average, and he was known as an average GM
Many considered Best Move

Shanny Hire
Solid hire all around, 2X superbowl champ, specialized in offense. His defenses were generally average at best. Knock was he was never a winner without Elway.
Many considered 2nd Best Move

Shanny Jr.
Produced fantastic results with the Texans. Thought to be groomable as our next head coach. Some had concerns about Dad/Son thing, but not most
Considered a good move
Many considered 3rd Best Move...some argued better move than his Dad

Haslett
Always produced below average defenses over a couple decades. Stunk as a head coach. Many scratched heads wondering why him...many pointed out Shanny hires weak D coordinators. Most were so happy about a GM and a real coach to overlook what many saw as a missed opportunity. But, it was explained to us that Shanny wanted a 3-4, and Haslett would convert us, so we bought in.

NOW:
Shanny(s) cut:
Produced top offenses, wasn't really the problem on the field as the offense was fine (other than player failures and oline talent/RG3 struggles) Major problem is infighting occured...and they needed to axe someone. I wasn't a fan of Shanny...but I didn't see him as the problem as much as Snyder/RG3 immaturity. lack of comments by Allen when needed, etc. Shanny Jr was fine, but should have adjusted more this year.

Haslett
The biggest problem with the team, outside of our 1st yr special teams coach
He should have been fired long ago. No improvement. team sucked, deflated any offense success....almost horrible.

Overall:
The team would have been better off keeping Shanny and team and getting a Wade Phillips d coordinator and new special teams coach....instead....they did the exact opposite.

[B]The main reason Shanny was fired was his record[/B], and the infighting dilema.
Had Shanny demanded a new defensive coordinator and handled his players better, he might still be here. Shanny is not a bad coach, Haslett is.[/quote]

Yea he did not win games. He is a head coach, that is his main job. He failed miserably at his job. Record says it all.

Also the offense sucked last year as well. The entire team was garbage.

skinsfan69 01-10-2014 01:28 PM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
[quote=skinsguy;1054687]Everyone who's going to find something wrong about this franchise, whether if it is warranted or not, will color themselves as realists. It's not the first time we're hearing this kind of stuff - from the words of Bon Jovi, "It's all the same, only the names will change...".

People's opinions are easily swayed by the likes of the Washington Post, and they'll always assume the worst because they think anything Mike Wise, Jason Reid, or Sally Jenkins writes is pure gospel. Anybody who tries to challenge them with a brighter outlook is going to be pegged as fans who won't take of the rose-colored glasses.

Right now, there's absolutely no reason to bitch and complain about this hire, [B]or the fact that Jim Haslett is still on the coaching staff[/B]. Jay Gruden is yet to even get started yet. Why is it too much to ask to wait and see what he does in assembling a complete staff?

And in terms of the hire itself, the franchise was looking for a candidate that best fits the team. I think Jay has the potential to be the right guy for the job. Time will tell and I'm not going sit here and cheer that this is a great hire nor am I going to sit here and sulk that he's the wrong guy. None of us really truly know until this guy gets in there and starts putting things together. But, I will say this - this is NOT another Jim Zorn hire. Gruden has experience as a head coach - albeit not yet in the NFL. He's been a leader of men. And after watching the presser yesterday, I don't get any type of timid "Zorn Like" qualities where it would make me think the guy would lose a locker room. He's a young coach who looks like he has that "fire in the belly" and wanting to achieve great things as a head coach.

In the end, we'll see. Let's just be glad that this team has found a head coach who's not 100 years old and not power hungry. I think we have a good guy, I'm excited to see what he does.[/quote]

I would agree with this post except Haslett. Dude has been a bum!! Remember the first Philadelphia game? Or Green Bay? Chicago? Denver? What about Ponder and Cassel looking like Dan Marino? Simply pathetic defense. Piss poor, horse shit tackling... all year. There has to be someone out there better than Haslett. Rob Ryan made a difference for New Orleans so find a guy that can do what he did. Haslett needs a pink slip. Today!

Monkeydad 01-10-2014 01:36 PM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
Welcome to the circus, Jay.

The media is going to make him go bald before the end of the year.

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/yahoo-sports-minute/jay-gruden-priceless-reaction-rg3-092233486.html?vp=1]ESPN asking Jay the same question 3 times in a row, although he answered it already...[/url]



I love his answers though.

When will you see RGIII?
I don't know, I've been talking to you guy for 3-4 hours.

When will you see RGIII?
I just got here, I need to find coaches.

When will you see RGIII?
<eyes pop out from the level of media idiocy>

No wonder his eyes popped out of his head...who could be ready for this level of stupidity? He's handling himself well though.



It was bad enough ESPN put him through such a waste of time, then Yahoo turns it into a movie production, zooming in and out on his eyeballs.

skinsnut 01-10-2014 01:40 PM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
[quote=donofriose;1054738]Yea he did not win games. He is a head coach, that is his main job. He failed miserably at his job. Record says it all.

Also the offense sucked last year as well. The entire team was garbage.[/quote]

Perhaps offense wasn't that great, kinda average, which is what we won with in the past and much of that was because RG3 wasn't healed or fully developed.... but the defense was TERRIBLE!

I'm not sure what our overall offense ranking was...but it wasn't 31th in points allowed! Quite frankly, when you have a defense like that...the only way you can win is with with the #1 offense in the league and that is asking a bit much considering we don't have Peyton Manning.

Let's be honest, our weakest link is Defense...it has been for the last 4 years.
If somehow, Gruden shocks us all and fires his defensive staff to hire a better staff, I will be happy to eat my words...but this all looks like a bit of you got/kept the job because of who you know..not because you are the best option available.

donofriose 01-10-2014 01:42 PM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
[quote=skinsnut;1054747]Perhaps offense wasn't that great, kinda average, which is what we won with in the past and much of that was because RG3 wasn't healed or fully developed.... but the defense was TERRIBLE!

I'm not sure what our overall offense ranking was...but it wasn't 31th in points allowed! Quite frankly, when you have a defense like that...the only way you can win is with with the #1 offense in the league and that is asking a bit much considering we don't have Peyton Manning.

Let's be honest, our weakest link is Defense...it has been for the last 4 years.
If somehow, Gruden shocks us all and fires his defensive staff to hire a better staff, I will be happy to eat my words...but this all looks like a bit of you got/kept the job because of who you know..not because you are the best option available.[/quote]

I do not like Hasleet either. I hope he either just stays on as an "assistant" or just gets fired.

skinsfaninok 01-10-2014 01:55 PM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
[quote=Monkeydad;1054744]Welcome to the circus, Jay.

The media is going to make him go bald before the end of the year.

[URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/yahoo-sports-minute/jay-gruden-priceless-reaction-rg3-092233486.html?vp=1"]ESPN asking Jay the same question 3 times in a row, although he answered it already...[/URL]



I love his answers though.

When will you see RGIII?
I don't know, I've been talking to you guy for 3-4 hours.

When will you see RGIII?
I just got here, I need to find coaches.

When will you see RGIII?
<eyes pop out from the level of media idiocy>

No wonder his eyes popped out of his head...who could be ready for this level of stupidity? He's handling himself well though.



It was bad enough ESPN put him through such a waste of time, then Yahoo turns it into a movie production, zooming in and out on his eyeballs.[/quote]


Skip the tool Bayless tried to spin it in a way that he is concerned Gruden is already avoiding RG3 by not meeting w him yet lol

MTK 01-10-2014 02:21 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1054753]Skip the tool Bayless tried to spin it in a way that he is concerned Gruden is already avoiding RG3 by not meeting w him yet lol[/quote]

He should be on a plane to Hawaii if he knows what's best.

King RGIII awaits.

Chico23231 01-10-2014 02:31 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;1054757]He should be on a plane to Hawaii if he knows what's best.

King RGIII awaits.[/quote]

Boy Emperor

SmootSmack 01-10-2014 02:52 PM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
[quote=Monkeydad;1054744]Welcome to the circus, Jay.

The media is going to make him go bald before the end of the year.

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/yahoo-sports-minute/jay-gruden-priceless-reaction-rg3-092233486.html?vp=1]ESPN asking Jay the same question 3 times in a row, although he answered it already...[/url]



I love his answers though.

When will you see RGIII?
I don't know, I've been talking to you guy for 3-4 hours.

When will you see RGIII?
I just got here, I need to find coaches.

When will you see RGIII?
<eyes pop out from the level of media idiocy>

No wonder his eyes popped out of his head...who could be ready for this level of stupidity? He's handling himself well though.



It was bad enough ESPN put him through such a waste of time, then Yahoo turns it into a movie production, zooming in and out on his eyeballs.[/quote]

It's not the same question, but whatever

Monkeydad 01-10-2014 03:15 PM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
^ ESPN's pro bono PR man has checked in.

Gary84Clark 01-10-2014 03:21 PM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
Please mods lock this thread, it is infected with that Thelma and Louis picture.

Bucket 01-10-2014 03:38 PM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
His initials are JG.

Who else had those?

Its in the stars. Super Bowl

skinsfaninok 01-10-2014 03:41 PM

[QUOTE=Bucket;1054783]His initials are JG.

Who else had those?

Its in the stars. Super Bowl[/QUOTE]

This LOL

skinsfaninok 01-10-2014 03:42 PM

Looks like Morocco Brown will interview in Tampa

SmootSmack 01-10-2014 04:20 PM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
[quote=Monkeydad;1054775]^ ESPN's pro bono PR man has checked in.[/quote]

I figured your response would be something like that.

Chico23231 01-10-2014 04:48 PM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
AJ Smith is a canidate for another GM job? interesting

jamf 01-10-2014 04:51 PM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
[quote=Bucket;1054783]His initials are JG.

Who else had those?

Its in the stars. Super Bowl[/quote]

Jeff George?

JoeRedskin 01-10-2014 05:57 PM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
[quote=Bucket;1054783]His initials are JG.

Who else had those?

Its in the stars. Super Bowl[/quote]

Jeff Gordon?

Jerry Garcia??

Julia Gillard???

Who? Who could you be referring to????

JoeRedskin 01-10-2014 05:59 PM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
[quote=Monkeydad;1054775]^ ESPN's [B]pro bono [/B]PR man has checked in.[/quote]

pro bono? hellz no! SS gots to get paid.

SirLK26 01-10-2014 06:14 PM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
The average height and weight of the Bengals' starting OL is 6-5, 322. The average height and weight of the Redskins' starting OL is 6-4, 305(And that is because of Williams, who is 6-5, 325). I believe this means we will be seeing larger O-linemen soon. Yay! No more Polumbuses backing up as soon as the ball is snapped.

artmonkforhallofamein07 01-10-2014 09:03 PM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
Yeah but they need to be better than Cincy's a lot of their fans were complainin about the Oline after their loss to the chargers

sdskinsfan2001 01-11-2014 02:01 AM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
The defensive coaching situation as rumored so far seems a little weird to me. Morris is an ex-head coach, he is definitely ready and qualified to be a DC. But if Haslett is staying he should stay as DC and Morris should stay as secondary coach if he's open to it. I think moving Haslett to "Assistant" Head Coach regardless if the money is more is still a demotion in terms of control/coaching of the team. There can be only one head coach.

To sum up if they want Morris to be DC then I think Haslett needs to be let go, if they are keeping Haslett, then he should be DC and Morris should remain DB coach.

I'm glad we got Gruden, I was for giving someone new a chance to be head coach.

FRPLG 01-11-2014 02:31 AM

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 
I admit...I don't get what they're thinking on D. I have to believe we're not getting even remotely the right story. Unless it's just a plain money thing which would be a first for DS. Just seems very odd based on the reports. I suppose we'll know more in the coming weeks and it'll make better sense.


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