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Pocket$ $traight 04-13-2010 12:33 PM

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[quote=44ever;687443]Agree! Also ironically, I believe we would give up our 3rd, if we had one for AH in a second.[/quote]


Who wouldn't? I was tilting towards Shanahan on this until I heard the guy on Kornheiser say that Shanny is forcing Haslett to install the 3-4. I think it is fine to move towards a 3-4 but the reason Shanahan was run out of Denver was his failings to build defenses. It is one thing to tell Haslett, "I want to be a 3-4 team in two years". It is completely different to force a 3-4 on your coordinator and run out the best defensive lineman in football on top of that and also render a double digit sack guy useless.

We aren't even 100% positive that we have the linebackers to suceed in the 3-4 and now we are crippling our defensive line? We do not have enough picks to completely revamp a defense and our offense was the main problem last year.

This looks like history repeating itself.

44ever 04-13-2010 12:41 PM

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;687457]
This looks like history repeating itself.[/quote]

If they move AH for a 3rd... I would have no choice but to agree with that.

SFREDSKIN 04-13-2010 12:59 PM

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[quote=44ever;687461]If they move AH for a 3rd... I would have no choice but to agree with that.[/quote]

Best case scenario is if they deal AH to Detroit or TB and get their 2nd rounder, which is like a late 1st rounder. Personally, I want them to get a 1st rounder and then some.

Longtimefan 04-13-2010 12:59 PM

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;687457]Who wouldn't? I was tilting towards Shanahan on this until I heard the guy on Kornheiser say that Shanny is forcing Haslett to install the 3-4. I think it is fine to move towards a 3-4 but the reason Shanahan was run out of Denver was his failings to build defenses. It is one thing to tell Haslett, "I want to be a 3-4 team in two years". It is completely different to force a 3-4 on your coordinator and run out the best defensive lineman in football on top of that and also render a double digit sack guy useless.

We aren't even 100% positive that we have the linebackers to suceed in the 3-4 and now we are crippling our defensive line? We do not have enough picks to completely revamp a defense and our offense was the main problem last year.

This looks like history repeating itself.[/quote]

I have been thinking the exact same thing! A lot of changes taking place simultaneously, maybe too many.

44ever 04-13-2010 01:11 PM

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[quote=Longtimefan;687468]I have been thinking the exact same thing! A lot of changes taking place simultaneously, maybe too many.[/quote]

Well another way of looking at it is this: Most of us have been fans for our entire lives. We know of all the different schemes put into place just to watch them fall. Were tired of losing and don't want to hang around for another wait and see. We want a contending team as quickly as possible.

MS on the other hand has only been a Skins fan for a few months. He was brought in and expected to make this team a contender. In order for him to get us there as quickly as possible, he needs to make drastic changes as quickly as possible.

If that means 2-3 more years to get there so be it. As MS probably sees it. But in his mind he has a plan and planning to get us there as quickly as possible. IMO.

jdc65 04-13-2010 01:12 PM

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I am also having difficulty with the sudden switch to a 3-4. With a win now mentality being displayed by offensive acquisitions, why drastically alter the defensive alignment that was built for a 4-3? If the team was rebuilding on offense with youth and an eye on the future, then a switch to a 3-4 makes more sense. It appears to me now that the entire front 7 needs to be replaced save for Orakpo. Fletcher is questionable in a 3-4, and is probably in his last year. Carter does not fit, not sure about where McIntosh fits, Daniels is a 1 down player, Golston is also questionable in a 3-4.

Losing Haynesworth would leave us with a line-up of : Jarmon, Kemoeatu/Montgomery, Daniels/Golston; and a linebacking corps of: Alexander/Carter, McIntosh/Henson, Fletcher, and Orakpo. This to me is a weak front 7, and we still have secondary issues.

How horrible would it be if the offense is improved, but the defense is noticeably weaker?
It could conceivably cost us a playoff spot.

SmootSmack 04-13-2010 01:18 PM

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;687457]Who wouldn't? I was tilting towards Shanahan on this until I heard the guy on Kornheiser say that Shanny is forcing Haslett to install the 3-4. I think it is fine to move towards a 3-4 but the reason Shanahan was run out of Denver was his failings to build defenses. It is one thing to tell Haslett, "I want to be a 3-4 team in two years". It is completely different to force a 3-4 on your coordinator and run out the best defensive lineman in football on top of that and also render a double digit sack guy useless.

We aren't even 100% positive that we have the linebackers to suceed in the 3-4 and now we are crippling our defensive line? We do not have enough picks to completely revamp a defense and our offense was the main problem last year.

This looks like history repeating itself.[/quote]

What guy said that? Was it LaCanfora? Shanahan's not forcing Haslett to run a 3-4. Shahanan hired Haslett because Haslett is well-versed in multiple defenses (including the 3-4 and the 4-3). We'll see a lot of both this year

BleedBurgundy 04-13-2010 01:21 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;687477]What guy said that? Was it LaCanfora? Shanahan's not forcing Haslett to run a 3-4. Shahanan hired Haslett because Haslett is well-versed in multiple defenses (including the 3-4 and the 4-3). We'll see a lot of both this year[/quote]

SS, stop you're killing the rumor mongering. I hate this time of year, everyone throws out this nonsense regarding interpersonal relations at Redskins Park, as if they have the first clue as to what is going on.

BigHairedAristocrat 04-13-2010 01:25 PM

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There are reasons Shanahan, Haslett, and Bruce Allen were all fired from their most recent NFL jobs. What we are seeing here is part of that. That said, all of them represent improvements over their predecessors. While i Think its completely foolish to switch to a 3-4 in 2010, i think that by the time the roster is finalized, we'll have more of the pieces in place to make the team successful.

I really think shanahan's offense will be able to score around 28 points per game. our defense will probably be one of the league's worst this year. i fully expect the switch to the 3-4 to cost us some games, though. hopefully the long-term benefit will be worth it.

Pocket$ $traight 04-13-2010 01:26 PM

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[quote=jdc65;687474]I am also having difficulty with the sudden switch to a 3-4. With a win now mentality being displayed by offensive acquisitions, why drastically alter the defensive alignment that was built for a 4-3? If the team was rebuilding on offense with youth and an eye on the future, then a switch to a 3-4 makes more sense. It appears to me now that the entire front 7 needs to be replaced save for Orakpo. Fletcher is questionable in a 3-4, and is probably in his last year. Carter does not fit, not sure about where McIntosh fits, Daniels is a 1 down player, Golston is also questionable in a 3-4.

Losing Haynesworth would leave us with a line-up of : Jarmon, Kemoeatu/Montgomery, Daniels/Golston; and a linebacking corps of: Alexander/Carter, McIntosh/Henson, Fletcher, and Orakpo. This to me is a weak front 7, and we still have secondary issues.

How horrible would it be if the offense is improved, but the defense is noticeably weaker?
It could conceivably cost us a playoff spot.[/quote]

This is what I am struggling with. McNabb wasn't brought here for a rebuilding process, he mentioned that in his press conference.

I thought that Al was the problem until I heard that Haslett wanted to run a 4-3 but was told that a 3-4 was our base defense. Why wouldn't you fix the offense this year then worry about moving to the 3-4 next year?

So Albert is taking all the heat for this situation (I still think he should show up) but the whole thing with Albert was self-imposed not by the D-Coordinator but by the head coach who has a long track record of making bad defensive decisions.

It is almost like he went out of his way to alienate AH to show that he is in charge.

Pocket$ $traight 04-13-2010 01:27 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;687477]What guy said that? Was it LaCanfora? Shanahan's not forcing Haslett to run a 3-4. Shahanan hired Haslett because Haslett is well-versed in multiple defenses (including the 3-4 and the 4-3). We'll see a lot of both this year[/quote]

I don't know exactly who said it, I missed the introduction of the segment. It was on Kornheiser yesterday.

Pocket$ $traight 04-13-2010 01:38 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;687477]What guy said that? Was it LaCanfora? Shanahan's not forcing Haslett to run a 3-4. Shahanan hired Haslett because Haslett is well-versed in multiple defenses (including the 3-4 and the 4-3). We'll see a lot of both this year[/quote]


So why did Shanny say that Albert is our starting "nose tackle". I have to think those words were carefully chosen. Maybe I am wrong but I just don't see Shanahan making a generalization with that statement. I think it was at least a shot across the bow.

Pocket$ $traight 04-13-2010 01:42 PM

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;687481]SS, stop you're killing the rumor mongering. I hate this time of year, everyone throws out this nonsense regarding interpersonal relations at Redskins Park, as if they have the first clue as to what is going on.[/quote]


By "everyone" are you refering to employees of NFL network? This information came from an analyst speaking during a segment of the Tony Kornheiser show. This isn't, "Hey what if Champ comes back".

SBXVII 04-13-2010 01:45 PM

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;687402]Not to mention that Bradford will be gone by the 4th pick.[/quote]

Unless they pass on him. :)

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/08/some-still-arent-sold-on-bradford-as-no-1-pick/]Some still aren't sold on Bradford as No. 1 pick | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/07/rams-gm-insists-team-hasnt-zeroed-in-on-bradford/]Rams G.M. insists team hasn't zeroed in on Bradford | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/06/trent-dilfer-says-sam-bradford-is-not-even-close-to-the-best-player-in-the-draft/]Trent Dilfer says Sam Bradford is "not even close to the best player in the draft" | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]


Plus there's this...

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/03/sam-bradford-thinks-it-would-be-cool-to-play-for-mike-shanahan/]Sam Bradford thinks it would be cool to play for Mike Shanahan | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

DCSportsFan98 04-13-2010 01:49 PM

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[quote=44ever;687461]If they move AH for a 3rd... I would have no choice but to agree with that.[/quote]

3rd?:nono: AH is worth a 1st or a package of picks. if the best we can get is a 3rd then id rather keep him

SmootSmack 04-13-2010 01:52 PM

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;687499]So why did Shanny say that Albert is our starting "nose tackle". I have to think those words were carefully chosen. Maybe I am wrong but I just don't see Shanahan making a generalization with that statement. I think it was at least a shot across the bow.[/quote]

Cause hopefully he will be, but he'll also play DE, some DT in a 4-3, even linebacker (well maybe not)

But anyway, it was LaCanfora that you heard.

But I don't disagree that we'll run the 3-4 a lot, moreso with JLC's assessment that it's being forced upon Haslett

44ever 04-13-2010 01:59 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;687510][B]Cause hopefully he will be[/B], but he'll also play DE, some DT in a 4-3, even linebacker (well maybe not)

But anyway, it was LaCanfora that you heard.

But I don't disagree that we'll run the 3-4 a lot, moreso with JLC's assessment that it's being forced upon Haslett[/quote]
Well I'd much rather have him here playing NT,DE and DT than trading him away.

Pocket$ $traight 04-13-2010 02:00 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;687510]Cause hopefully he will be, but he'll also play DE, some DT in a 4-3, even linebacker (well maybe not)

But anyway, it was LaCanfora that you heard.

But I don't disagree that we'll run the 3-4 a lot, moreso with JLC's assessment that it's being forced upon Haslett[/quote]


I hope you are right. I just find it fascinating that someone like JLC would feel comfortable making something like that up and presenting it as if there was truth behind it.

Maybe I am being naive.

SmootSmack 04-13-2010 02:04 PM

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;687516]I hope you are right. I just find it fascinating that someone like JLC would feel comfortable making something like that up and presenting it as if there was truth behind it.

Maybe I am being naive.[/quote]

JLC prefaced it by saying "I've been told..."

Well I've been told otherwise

Longtimefan 04-13-2010 02:36 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;687467]Best case scenario is if they deal AH to Detroit or TB and get their 2nd rounder, which is like a late 1st rounder. Personally, I want them to get a 1st rounder and then some.[/quote]

Under normal circumstances Haynesworth should command a 1st round pick. His reputation has taken such a hit, there are teams that want him but are reluctant to make a deal, at least not for a 1st.

I just hope the team wont be in such haste to trade him (if they decide too) that they won't receive his value in return.

Monkeydad 04-13-2010 02:48 PM

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Wow, 4 straight posts from pocket$ $traight.

ChickenMonkey 04-13-2010 03:07 PM

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All the talk about changing things too quickly is Bull....How much worse can this team get? The 2009 record was 4-12.....If Shanny comes in and blows the whole freakin team up, so be it.....Redskins fans are still hoping and praying for the SUPERBOWL..This team needs to be rebuilt, Offense and Defense...Stop hoping for the playoffs and be realistic. Donavan was added for stability during the transition, not for a 1yr Superbowl run.. Look at the defense for Green bay, they made the transition to the 3-4 fairly easy by adding linebackers through the draft and plugging in thier old DE's & DT's.... As long as the team improves on 4-12 im all for change!!!!!


Trade em all and let the draft sort it out..............

BleedBurgundy 04-13-2010 03:13 PM

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;687500]By "everyone" are you refering to employees of NFL network? This information came from an analyst speaking during a segment of the Tony Kornheiser show. This isn't, "Hey what if Champ comes back".[/quote]

I mean everyone acting as if hearing an analyst (still unnamed) on a radio show say something means it's gospel. These clowns are just making noise to justify their airtime. Haslett did have to interview for the job and if he took it after being told what the head coach wanted, now's not the time to bitch. But until i see him quoted directly, i'm not buying any division within the new staff over scheme.

Pocket$ $traight 04-13-2010 03:14 PM

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[quote=Buster;687570]Wow, 4 straight posts from pocket$ $traight.[/quote]


My fingers are in mid-season form.

Pocket$ $traight 04-13-2010 03:15 PM

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;687603]I mean everyone acting as if hearing an analyst (still unnamed) on a radio show say something means it's gospel. These clowns are just making noise to justify their airtime. Haslett did have to interview for the job and if he took it after being told what the head coach wanted, now's not the time to bitch. But until i see him quoted directly, i'm not buying any division within the new staff over scheme.[/quote]


It was JLC. Take that for what its worth.

BigHairedAristocrat 04-13-2010 03:19 PM

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i am dying for some rumors. anyone got anything thats semi legit and doesn't involve campbell?

i have a feeling we'll be making ALOT of moves during the draft and they'll be coming so fast we can't keep up with them. i hate the calm before the storm!

SFREDSKIN 04-13-2010 03:24 PM

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Too bad Haynesworth doesn't have Carter's attitude:


Carter opts to attend minicamp to be with teammates, learn new system

After spending time in California while rehabbing from surgery to repair a torn biceps, linebacker/defensive end Andre Carter has returned to the area for the minicamp that begins Friday at Redskins Park.

Carter has not been cleared to participate in team drills, "but I wanted to be here to support my teammates and get going on all the new stuff we're going to be doing," Carter said in a phone interview Monday. "They haven't cleared me to do everything yet, so I'll just have to get a lot of mental reps and work with my position coach [linebackers coach Lou Spanos] on some of the things I'll need to do. But I wanted to be here. I felt I needed to be here."

Carter is coming off the best year of his career as a hand-down end. He was the Redskins' most productive defensive lineman in their 4-3 scheme last season.

But the Redskins are switching to a 3-4 defense, and Carter struggled in his only season as an outside linebacker while with the San Francisco 49ers. Because of Carter's previous limitations in man-to-man coverage, the Redskins are reportedly considering trading Carter, who has a no-trade clause for the length of his contract.

"It's fair to say that this is where I want to be. I want to be right here in Washington," Carter said. "I'm really just focused on finishing my rehab and working to get in the best possible position I can to prepare myself for playing for the Redskins this season."

Pocket$ $traight 04-13-2010 03:28 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;687621]Too bad Haynesworth doesn't have Carter's attitude:


Carter opts to attend minicamp to be with teammates, learn new system

After spending time in California while rehabbing from surgery to repair a torn biceps, linebacker/defensive end Andre Carter has returned to the area for the minicamp that begins Friday at Redskins Park.

Carter has not been cleared to participate in team drills, "but I wanted to be here to support my teammates and get going on all the new stuff we're going to be doing," Carter said in a phone interview Monday. "They haven't cleared me to do everything yet, so I'll just have to get a lot of mental reps and work with my position coach [linebackers coach Lou Spanos] on some of the things I'll need to do. But I wanted to be here. I felt I needed to be here."

Carter is coming off the best year of his career as a hand-down end. He was the Redskins' most productive defensive lineman in their 4-3 scheme last season.

But the Redskins are switching to a 3-4 defense, and Carter struggled in his only season as an outside linebacker while with the San Francisco 49ers. Because of Carter's previous limitations in man-to-man coverage, the Redskins are reportedly considering trading Carter, who has a no-trade clause for the length of his contract.

"It's fair to say that this is where I want to be. I want to be right here in Washington," Carter said. "I'm really just focused on finishing my rehab and working to get in the best possible position I can to prepare myself for playing for the Redskins this season."[/quote]

Just another reason to stick with the 4-3. I love what AC brings every Sunday.

DCSportsFan98 04-13-2010 04:02 PM

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;687629]Just another reason to stick with the 4-3. I love what AC brings every Sunday.[/quote]

carters more of a tweener and benefited alot from AH. i love that were switching to the 3-4. orakpo blitzing from the olb position is going to be devastating

SFREDSKIN 04-13-2010 04:08 PM

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[quote=DCSportsFan98;687672]carters more of a tweener and benefited alot from AH. i love that were switching to the 3-4. orakpo blitzing from the olb position is going to be devastating[/quote]

What's going to be more devastating is if Haynesworth leaves via trade and we don't get an equal replacement.

Pocket$ $traight 04-13-2010 04:12 PM

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[quote=DCSportsFan98;687672]carters more of a tweener and benefited alot from AH. i love that were switching to the 3-4. orakpo blitzing from the olb position is going to be devastating[/quote]


I don't know how much of a tweener Carter is. He didn't do well as an OLB in San Fran. I think he is a 4-3 DE.

Orakpo is so talented that he will thrive in any defense. I am worried about our D-line if we ship out or misuse AC and AH. I just think that is the wrong move this year.

DCSportsFan98 04-13-2010 04:16 PM

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;687686]I don't know how much of a tweener Carter is. He didn't do well as an OLB in San Fran. I think he is a 4-3 DE.

Orakpo is so talented that he will thrive in any defense. I am worried about our D-line if we ship out or misuse AC and AH. I just think that is the wrong move this year.[/quote]
well kemo is going to be our NT. daniels can be an end and if we trade AH i see us using the pick or the highest pick we get to replace him

BigHairedAristocrat 04-13-2010 05:07 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;687682]What's going to be more devastating is if Haynesworth leaves via trade and we don't get an equal replacement.[/quote]

Really? Consider 10 facts that provide indisputable proof that the Redskins will be just fine without Albert Haynesworth.

Fact 1: we were 4-12 with haynesworth playing his natural position as 4-3 DT.

Fact 2: Given that, Haynesworth alone likely wouldnt make the teams final record any better playing out of position in the 3-4.

Fact 3: The redskins generally had top 10 defenses for years without any semblence of a pass rush. Its our offense that is primarily to blame for our recent mediocrity.

Fact 4: Last year, 28 teams finished with a record better than the Redskins without Albert Haynesworth or an "equivalent" DT.

Fact 5: Every NFL team that has ever won a conference championship or superbowl has done so without Albert Haynesworth.

Fact 6: With or without Haynesworth, the defense doesn't have the personnel to run the 3-4. its probably going to be pretty bad whether he's on the team or not. Simply put, he won't make much of a difference to this team in 2010.

Fact 7: By hiring shanahan and trading for McNabb, we've signaled that we are going to become an offensive team. Unfortunately, we don't have a single starting quality tackle on our offense. Last time i checked, Albert Haynesworth does not play left or right tackle. he will not protect our franchise QB, donovan mcnabb. An offensive linemen acquired (directly or indirectly) as a result of trading Haynesworth could.

Fact 8: Albert Haynesworth is not Chuck Norris.

Fact 9: Albert Haynesworth is not Jack Bauer.

Fact 10: If Facts 1-7 do not convince you that the Redskins will do just fine without Haynesworth, read and meditate on Facts 8 and 9. There really is no arguing with them.

SFREDSKIN 04-13-2010 05:34 PM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;687709]Really? Consider 10 facts that provide indisputable proof that the Redskins will be just fine without Albert Haynesworth.

Fact 1: we were 4-12 with haynesworth playing his natural position as 4-3 DT.

Fact 2: Given that, Haynesworth alone likely wouldnt make the teams final record any better playing out of position in the 3-4.

Fact 3: The redskins generally had top 10 defenses for years without any semblence of a pass rush. Its our offense that is primarily to blame for our recent mediocrity.

Fact 4: Last year, 28 teams finished with a record better than the Redskins without Albert Haynesworth or an "equivalent" DT.

Fact 5: Every NFL team that has ever won a conference championship or superbowl has done so without Albert Haynesworth.

Fact 6: With or without Haynesworth, the defense doesn't have the personnel to run the 3-4. its probably going to be pretty bad whether he's on the team or not. Simply put, he won't make much of a difference to this team in 2010.

Fact 7: By hiring shanahan and trading for McNabb, we've signaled that we are going to become an offensive team. Unfortunately, we don't have a single starting quality tackle on our offense. Last time i checked, Albert Haynesworth does not play left or right tackle. he will not protect our franchise QB, donovan mcnabb. An offensive linemen acquired (directly or indirectly) as a result of trading Haynesworth could.

Fact 8: Albert Haynesworth is not Chuck Norris.

Fact 9: Albert Haynesworth is not Jack Bauer.

Fact 10: If Facts 1-7 do not convince you that the Redskins will do just fine without Haynesworth, read and meditate on Facts 8 and 9. There really is no arguing with them.[/quote]

After such a wonderful list, did you remember we also lost Cornelius Griffin. No Griffin, No Haynesworth, do you think Montgomery can step up? I like Golston and Alexander (moving to LB), the rest are question marks or too old (Daniels) for the NT position.

44ever 04-13-2010 06:04 PM

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They would have to be crazy to get rid of this guy. One of the Best in the biz IMO.
[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/376751-could-asante-samuel-be-part-of-a-draft-day-trade]NFL Trade Rumors: Could Asante Samuel Be Part of a Draft-Day Trade? | Bleacher Report[/url]

CRedskinsRule 04-13-2010 06:27 PM

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[quote=44ever;687744]They would have to be crazy to get rid of this guy. One of the Best in the biz IMO.
[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/376751-could-asante-samuel-be-part-of-a-draft-day-trade]NFL Trade Rumors: Could Asante Samuel Be Part of a Draft-Day Trade? | Bleacher Report[/url][/quote]

ouch
[quote]"The whole team needs to improve from the front office, to the head coach, to the players," Samuel told CSNPhilly.com's Derrick Gunn.[/quote]

CRedskinsRule 04-13-2010 06:32 PM

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Adam_Schefter

The New Orleans Saints have re-signed restricted free agent offensive tackle Jermon Bushrod. Only OT they haven't signed is Jammal Brown.

SBXVII 04-13-2010 07:29 PM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;687485]There are reasons Shanahan, Haslett, and Bruce Allen were all fired from their most recent NFL jobs. What we are seeing here is part of that. That said, all of them represent improvements over their predecessors. While i Think its completely foolish to switch to a 3-4 in 2010, i think that by the time the roster is finalized, we'll have more of the pieces in place to make the team successful.

I really think shanahan's offense will be able to score around 28 points per game. our defense will probably be one of the league's worst this year. i fully expect the switch to the 3-4 to cost us some games, though. hopefully the long-term benefit will be worth it.[/quote]


I agree with you on the second paragraph, but not so much the first. They definitly are better then our last duo. However I think Allen was let go the same time Gruden was let go. Ownership chose to go in a different direction completely. Similar to our situation with Cerrato. I'm in no way saying Cerrato was awsome and he simply got thrown out with the bath water. I actually think Tampa made a mistake letting him go, but I guess that would mean the Raiders did also. So I could be wrong. Shanahan on the other hand is different. I think he probably would have been allowed to stay had he fired the DC like the owner wanted and brought in someone more qualified. Instead Shanahan was too loyal and wouldn't fire the DC. The owner got tired of the SSDD so he let Shanahan go. He never should have let Shanahan go.

Haslett has his issues. No where has he been that his defenses were top 5. If I'm not mistakent they even drifted down the chart. I'm actually worried about the defensive side of the ball. I hope and pray it turns out dominant but if it's not .... is Shanahan prepared to fire someone and bring in someone better? or will he be too loyal again?

Longtimefan 04-13-2010 07:47 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 5)
 
Just finished watching the Tuesday edition of Redskins Nation with Larry Michael. He spoke to the issue of Laron Landry, saying he's been at Redskin Park working out every day and does not know how the rumors got started that he was not, or that he left at one point in time.

SBXVII 04-13-2010 08:22 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 5)
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;687682]What's going to be more devastating is if Haynesworth leaves via trade and we don't get an equal replacement.[/quote]

I just don't get this arguement? No we won't have someone AH's size and agility on the OL, but I don't see how we will be helpless? We essentially will have Daniels, kemoeatu, Bryant, Jarmin, Carter, and Orakpo.

Seeing a line of

Daniels, Kemoeatu/Bryant, Jarmin

with LB's of Orakpo and Carter?

Still dominating. Obviously not AH dominating but still dominating.


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