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Guys he's just one person, he'll have say in who else comes in. I'd live to see Brown stay and have us bring DeCosta back; I could also see is going after Doug Williams if Allen wants to work with him again, I'd rather have DeCosta if they're looking at them for the same position, which I imagine would be head of personnel or at least pro personnel.

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[quote=Ruhskins;641397]And division titles nor SB appearances matter? Seriously man, just give it up and let the guy do something here.[/quote] The man has 5 division championships this decade. I'm more than willing to give this guy the opportunity to see what he does. I hope he does well.

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[quote=hooskins;641351]Marty and Cower are bffl's, and I am sure Marty told him not to touch Washington with a 100 foot pole.[/quote]

Well...the two biggest problems Marty had with the Redskins (Drasner and Cerrato) are now gone

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hahaha.. allen just mentioned respecting the Redskins talent over the years as an opponent, mentioned that some of those TDs might not have stood if the replay was the same as it is now

also mentioned liking the young talent, named orakpo

Just got the news
 

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*tear* I can't believe this has finally happened. Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of the earth. Ladies and gentleman, the messiah is finally upon us. Let us give thanks.

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Certainly you can argue that there are better choices than Allen out there, bu for the five plus years I've been part of this board the two most common sentences I've seen written here are "We need a GM" and "We need to get rid of Vinny"

Well in one morning, we did both....and we still complain

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Allen wants "good teammates, somebody that we can count on"

Snyder "he is a seasoned executive.. very appropriate for the title"

starting today Allen "feels the pain of 4-9" will be talking to the current staff to find out what caused that, etc

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According to DS, Joe Gibbs approves of this move (per news conference).

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[quote=SmootSmack;641412]Certainly you can argue that there are better choices than Allen out there, bu for the five plus years I've been part of this board the two most common sentences I've seen written here are "We need a GM" and "We need to get rid of Vinny"

Well in one morning, we did both....and we still complain[/quote]
Nothing's ever good enough. If we hired Belichick or Tomlin there would be complaints too. Some of these people want a coach that won 5 superbowls in 3 years it seems, but it would've been better if he won 6.

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[quote=SmootSmack;641412]Certainly you can argue that there are better choices than Allen out there, bu for the five plus years I've been part of this board the two most common sentences I've seen written here are "We need a GM" and "We need to get rid of Vinny"

Well in one morning, we did both....and we still complain[/quote]

I declare today Bruce Allen day.

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Allen admitted to making some mistakes in FA and the draft

said we'd be ready whether it's a capped or uncapped year

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[quote=tryfuhl;641418]Allen admitted to making some mistakes in FA and the draft[/quote]

Every GM makes mistakes. What Cerrato made was a whole other story.

*edit* Disasters, thats the word I'm looking for.

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Good answer about Gruden...saying that we do not have an opening at that position right now and that Zorn is the coach. Well I guess that's expected for him to say...but he also said he has relationships with other coaches. I can't tell if Zorn is in the conference room.

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When asked about a possibility of Gruden Allen said "Well we don't have an open position at that spot. Zorn is our coach, I just met him about 2 hours before I met you here, we'll talk with him in the next few weeks and see how that relationship develops" and that he has personal ties to hundreds of coaches

It's GM speak but people who didn't watch will obviously want to know what he said.

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"Bruce has atonomy on the decision making" Dan Snyder

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I like how Snyder keeps referring to Allen as a seasoned executive. He also mentioned that it'd be up to Allen to assess Zorn.

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[quote=SmootSmack;641412]Certainly you can argue that there are better choices than Allen out there, bu for the five plus years I've been part of this board the two most common sentences I've seen written here are "We need a GM" and "We need to get rid of Vinny"

Well in one morning, we did both....and we still complain[/quote]

Wish we could end the thread on this note.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;641386]They were 9-7 that season, so it was more on the ownership then on Allen Gruden. But really, lets at least give the plan time to develop. If the next few pieces don't reflect a change in plan then criticize away.[/quote]

A 9-7 season which is the culmination of 5 years with more losses than wins is nothing to be proud about. 9-7 is mediocre. allen and gruden's record together was very mediocre.

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I am actually impressed with Dan Snyder. How about that? To me, Snyder sounds like he has decided to step back and allow a GM to run the team.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;641425]A 9-7 season which is the culmination of 5 years with more losses than wins is nothing to be proud about. 9-7 is mediocre. allen and gruden's record together was very mediocre.[/quote]

Great, then go follow Vinny to whatever team he'll be on ok? Ciao.

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Is there any possibility Jim Zorn stays? With Allen, there seems to have been a track record of finding players to fit the WCO system that belonged to Gruden. Just because we now have Allen as our VPFO/GM does it necessarily mean its either Gruden or Shanahan?

I'm asking because I'm in slight favor of seeing what year 3 with Zorn-Campbell looks like before we switch HC and offensive schemes again.

If it is Shanahan that comes to town, there have been a few remarks about it being Cerrato 2.0; Allen being Snyder's puppet. This is assuming Shanahan won't have full control and that Snyder is still playing the way he wants to, and not giving autonomy to his HC-GM partnership. I can't wait for us to play spoilers these last three weeks, but am itching for answers to our team's direction.

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[quote=PennSkinsFan;641426]I am actually impressed with Dan Snyder. How about that? To me, Snyder sounds like he has decided to step back and allow a GM to run the team.[/quote]

I do hope they wait until the end of the season to name a new coach. It'd be unnecessary to do this right now. There are only three more weeks left in the season.

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[quote=PennSkinsFan;641426]I am actually impressed with Dan Snyder. How about that? To me, Snyder sounds like he has decided to step back and allow a GM to run the team.[/quote]

Yes that seems to be the case. Ladies and gents the Redskins have their first true 'GM' under Snyder.

I think you can tell there's a true element of trust that Snyder has with Allen.

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[quote=Mattyk72;641424]Wish we could end the thread on this note.[/quote]

You have the power!

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[quote=Mattyk72;641424]Wish we could end the thread on this note.[/quote]

How the hell are people complaining? We just got rid of Vinny Cerrato. This day should be declared a holiday. Kids should be let out of school, shops should close, and people should come home from work.

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Anyone else think that Allen's voice sounded very similar to Gruden's? Kinda spooky.

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[quote=SmootSmack;641434]You have the power![/quote]

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[quote=Dirtbag359;641436][B]How the hell are people complaining?[/B] We just got rid of Vinny Cerrato. This day should be declared a holiday. Kids should be let out of school, shops should close, and people should come home from work.[/quote]

Because people like to complain for the sake of complaining and pull stuff out of their asses and say they are facts.

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[quote=PennSkinsFan;641426]I am actually impressed with Dan Snyder. How about that? To me, Snyder sounds like he has decided to step back and allow a GM to run the team.[/quote]

He's got no another choice but to do that if he wants to attract coaches.

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Snyder made the comment that Allen's decision will be final. Good first step.

Personal opinion--
Zorn will impress Allen - winning these next 2 NFC East battles, and will be asked to stay, minus playcalling. Zorn will not give up this HC job, and will keep Campbell. Allen will round out the FO with "football people". Blache will retire.

From there who knows.

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[quote=SmootSmack;641434]You have the power![/quote]

I was thinking more about this...

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[quote=Dirtbag359;641436]How the hell are people complaining? We just got rid of Vinny Cerrato. This day should be declared a holiday. Kids should be let out of school, shops should close, and people should come home from work.[/quote]

I was thinking a parade like after the SB!

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[quote=SmootSmack;641412]Certainly you can argue that there are better choices than Allen out there, bu for the five plus years I've been part of this board the two most common sentences I've seen written here are "We need a GM" and "We need to get rid of Vinny"

Well in one morning, we did both....and we still complain[/quote]

I'm not! I'm very happy that Vinny is gone.

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[quote=franklinhimself;641429]Is there any possibility Jim Zorn stays? With Allen, there seems to have been a track record of finding players to fit the WCO system that belonged to Gruden. Just because we now have Allen as our VPFO/GM does it necessarily mean its either Gruden or Shanahan?

I'm asking because I'm in slight favor of seeing what year 3 with Zorn-Campbell looks like before we switch HC and offensive schemes again.

If it is Shanahan that comes to town, there have been a few remarks about it being Cerrato 2.0; Allen being Snyder's puppet. This is assuming Shanahan won't have full control and that Snyder is still playing the way he wants to, and not giving autonomy to his HC-GM partnership. I can't wait for us to play spoilers these last three weeks, but am itching for answers to our team's direction.[/quote]

I agree, but too many people want Zorn's head too. I want to see Zorn for at least one more year before we decide to go with a different HC. As long as he understands that we need someone else to be the playcaller.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;641441]Snyder made the comment that Allen's decision will be final. Good first step.

Personal opinion--
Zorn will impress Allen - winning these next 2 NFC East battles, and will be asked to stay, minus playcalling. Zorn will not give up this HC job, and will keep Campbell. Allen will round out the FO with "football people". Blache will retire.

From there who knows.[/quote]

You forgot the part where we draft a tackle with the first rounder :headbange

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Just found this comment on RI. Wish I could take credit for it but in the end the person who came up with it deserves it.

"how hillarious would it be if nfl network hired vinny and jlc had to work with him?"
-drewkinnear

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[quote=SmootSmack;641412]Certainly you can argue that there are better choices than Allen out there, bu for the five plus years I've been part of this board the two most common sentences I've seen written here are "We need a GM" and "We need to get rid of Vinny"

Well in one morning, we did both....and we still complain[/quote]

Right now, i see Snyder manipulating the fans into thinking something's changed when, really, nothing has. The dysfunctional front office structure remains the same - only the players have changed. If you didn't get a chance to listen to Mike Wilbon on the Tony Kornheiser show this morning, then you should.

A character in Snatch said, "Don't piss in my bucket and tell me its raining." By all apperanaces, that's exactly whats happening here. Snyder fired one yes-man and hired another. Allen has never been a "real" GM before. He's only been a yes man. If Snyder wanted a real GM, he wouldnt have hired Allen. Snyder has lead a dysfunctional franchise for so long, he doesn't deserve us to suddenly beleive he has changed now. He doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt.

Time will tell, but i'm remaining skeptical until proven otherwise.

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[quote=Ruhskins;641448]You forgot the part where we draft a tackle with the first rounder :headbange[/quote]

Allen had a reputation of drafting OL, early and often.

[quote=CRedskinsRule;641443]I was thinking a parade like after the SB![/quote]

Lol, this is our Super Bowl, at least for the foreseeable future.

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[quote=Ruhskins;641448]You forgot the part where we draft a tackle with the first rounder :headbange[/quote]

I sure did but I like the sound of that too :headbange

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The Bruce Allen presser was pretty good. He didn't throw anything out there to make you think Zorn is staying or going, but if I had to read between the lines I think Mr. Portis is done here.

Allen said he's a big proponent of practicing 52 weeks a year; Not a good one here and there. He also said that the team will be cap ready regardless of what happens with the CBA. Didn't committ on Zorn one way or another, but for the first time I'm starting to believe Zorn is gone too.