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wilsowilso 09-20-2009 11:16 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams)
 
[quote=SouperMeister;592447]My bigger problem in the red zone than the plays is the personnel packages that Zorn is using. On several occasions inside the 10, Zorn took Kelly out of the game. You have got to be kidding. Kelly is only our biggest target, and supposedly has the best hands on the team. He should NEVER be out of the game when we're inside the opponent's 10.[/quote]

I really really agree with this. Take out Moss before Kelly.

Paintrain 09-20-2009 11:18 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams)
 
[quote=roth74va;592419]You gotta be kidding, the ball hits you in the hands you have to catch the damn ball....PERIOD!!!! So we complain when Campbell under/over throws someone, and now your making excuses for the receiver because he throws the ball too hard, what a joke!!![/quote]

Don't even waste your time. Some people are going to complain and blame Campbell for anything and everything.

More concerning is that of the 'cupcakes' we have ahead on our schedule, each one of them (Detroit-13, Bucs-20, Panthers-20, Chiefs-10) all outscored us today. Instead of them being the marks on our schedule, we just became marks on theirs! I'm expecting an ugly Halloween season around the Zorn household. The 'bye' week may have a dual meaning.

Dirtbag59 09-20-2009 11:20 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams)
 
Campbell needs to save Zorn from himself and start calling audibles at the line.

Paintrain 09-20-2009 11:20 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams)
 
[quote=wilsowilso;592451]I really really agree with this. Take out Moss before Kelly.[/quote]

If you put in Kelly, Thomas, Mitchell and Cooley in a 4 WR spread don't you think that may open up some running lanes as well as passing opportunities?!? Nah, let's go 4 TE and run the stretch!

MTK 09-20-2009 11:21 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams)
 
[quote=SBXVII;592365]Hold up, If your talking about Sellers and the pass thrown his way? I doubt he would have made the end zone, but even saying that JC threw the ball way to hard. The ball went in and out of Sellers hands due to JC simply blasting the ball everywhere. JC needs to learn not to blast the ball when his WR's are within 15 yrds of him.[/quote]

You've gotta be joking that was a completely catchable ball

FRPLG 09-20-2009 11:22 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams)
 
[quote=Mattyk72;592466]You've gotta be joking that was a completely catchable ball[/quote]

You gotta understand...even when it's not JC's fault, it still is to these guys.

GMScud 09-20-2009 11:26 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams)
 
[quote=Mattyk72;592362]Carter is getting some good pressures though, better than nothing[/quote]

Yeah, but for as good as Orkapo looked in the preseason, he's been invisible thus far 2 weeks in. Maybe we should let him play his natural position. Only we could screw up a prospect like Orakpo.

Lotus 09-20-2009 11:29 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams)
 
[quote=GMScud;592478]Yeah, but for as good as Orkapo looked in the preseason, he's been invisible thus far 2 weeks in. Maybe we should let him play his natural position. Only we could screw up a prospect like Orakpo.[/quote]

My guess is that Orakpo is still getting used to the speed of the game, which is much faster in the regular season than it is in preseason. Patience please. If he is still invisible around Thanksgiving, then we can have this discussion.

GMScud 09-20-2009 11:35 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams)
 
[quote=Lotus;592483]My guess is that Orakpo is still getting used to the speed of the game, which is much faster in the regular season than it is in preseason. Patience please. If he is still invisible around Thanksgiving, then we can have this discussion.[/quote]

Look, I've been skeptical of changing his position since before he was drafted. Stud defensive prospects like him usually start contributing early and often. I just don't like what I've seen (nothing) from him thus far. He's mediocre in coverage and not getting to the QB. I think he'll come around, but you can't help but wonder how he'd be doing as a full time DE. The guy is strong as an ox. I'm not sure he'd be struggling against the run as much as some assume.

While he's "getting used to the speed of the game," our defense is having the same problems as last year as far as QB pressure, or lack thereof. In addition to not being able to get off the field on 3rd down....

Ruhskins 09-20-2009 11:36 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams)
 
[quote=Lotus;592483]My guess is that Orakpo is still getting used to the speed of the game, which is much faster in the regular season than it is in preseason. Patience please. If he is still invisible around Thanksgiving, then we can have this discussion.[/quote]

Orakpo was hurrying Bulger out there...he had a pretty big mistake with that PF penalty though. I'm sure he'll learn.

Beemnseven 09-20-2009 11:44 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams)
 
I think they're afraid of two guys who aren't good at stopping the run at both ends -- Carter and Orakpo -- full time.

On passing down Orakpo should be at his natural position absolutely.

Paintrain 09-20-2009 11:48 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams)
 
Ultimate optimism, we're in a 3 way tie for 2nd!

Ruhskins 09-20-2009 11:50 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams)
 
[quote=Paintrain;592520]Ultimate optimism, we're in a 3 way tie for 2nd![/quote]

Well at least our starting QB and RB are healthy (crossing fingers) unlike in Philly, and Campbell didn't throw 4 INTs in a home game like Tony Turnover.

wilsowilso 09-20-2009 11:50 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams)
 
[quote=SBXVII;592365]Hold up, If your talking about Sellers and the pass thrown his way? I doubt he would have made the end zone, but even saying that JC threw the ball way to hard.[/quote]

Are you working on some kind of football related comedic routine?

Paintrain 09-20-2009 11:57 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams)
 
[quote=Ruhskins;592523]Well at least our starting QB and RB are healthy (crossing fingers) unlike in Philly, and Campbell didn't throw 4 INTs in a home game like Tony Turnover.[/quote]
Barber looked like he popped a quad muscle tonight in the 4th.


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