railcon56
12-30-2005, 11:40 AM
I never thought i could feel anything but love and pride for the REDSKINS but this makes me sick and not wanna watch football
Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire careerrailcon56 12-30-2005, 11:40 AM I never thought i could feel anything but love and pride for the REDSKINS but this makes me sick and not wanna watch football skins052bgr8 12-30-2005, 11:52 AM Now I know this article is all completely false, because the coaches haven't ever said anything other than, "he misses assignments", but in my eyes, this tells me that they prejudged LaVar, and have viewed him as a problem from the start. Now I'm not completely in LaVar's corner, because I do think this was a horrible time to make these comments to the media, but obviously, he's been getting the sh-t end of the stick since the new coaching regime got here. Everyone else bought into assignments and proving day in and day out that we work as a team we win as a team. Lavar himself said I didn't know I had to show them in practice. How could he not they preach the off season program and the importance of practice since the get go. What part of the article did you assume was fact and that evidence is there to say they prejudged him ohh yeah it is because Mike Wise of the Post wrote it so it has to be fact or was the final nail in the couffin when after Lavar got yelled at by Lindsey and he has another outburst. The simple thing is they are building a team and they expect things from everybody on a team. Lavar can play and I don't care if he freelances I love watching him make plays, but I am not the coach and I do not make a game plan for individuals to follow to help this team win they do. These coaches are day in and day out coaching players 52 other players and one who has had his ego driven by diehard Arrington fans since 2000 who love the big play capability that he brings, but how come the other 52 are not crying the blues. Arrington is the only one who believes he can play within a system are all the coaches he played for and those players who played beside him all against him as well when they say he is out of position at times more so than many other players. Just play damn it, and stop worrying about what people write or say. I will be completely surprised if he follows through with the retiring mumbo jumbo, his demeanor and comments change like the wind. It is a business and no player is above the team, the owner, or the organization. Bailey was tired of the turnover, nothing against him so he chose to leave, Coles did not want to be here so see ya, Smoot and Pierce said they wanted to be here, but after releasing Coles and the cap hit we could not afford what they were asking for and the coaches made the call why am I going to pay Smoot more than the best corner Springs that is on the roster, that is the direction we are going sorry they missed the boat when we would have paid market value or higher for an individual. Those signings went much further than this year and looked at years ahead salary hits. It was not they were done wrong by the organization, they just could not fit a suitable contract to keep Pierce or Smoot they made a very reasonable offer they did not just say we are not going to be competitive you are not worth anything to us, but we are not going to break the bank. Then again their feelings were hurt due to the way Spurrier and Snyder ran the show in previous years and times are different under Gibbs and Snyder. Build for more stabalized team, no matter how hard you try you are going to loose key players, it happens to everyone. Forget Ty Law was just done so wrong by what most say is the best built team or one of the best built teams. You can't keep dipping in Free Agency and signing big name players or resigning them to lucrative contracts, IT IS NOT PERSONAL! skins052bgr8 12-30-2005, 12:00 PM I am very sad like u...these people just dont understand all they know is shut up lavar....i know what u mean he deserves to be a part of this....and they cant understand the way he feels i am hurt by this too and i have been a skins fan since 1972 but i am not even excited by this game i feel sick that they could treat this man like this... I have not heard anyone from the organization say Lavar does not fit into future plans, only Lavar speculating on his Cap hit. Beyond that the second half of the season he has been playing happy and says he was wrong he was not ready to play the first couple weeks (applaud Lavar you are handling this so well ), all is good until he gets jumped on by Lindsey this weekend (This organization does not want me I may retire) (applaud Lavar he is a true Redskin he won't play for another team he loves this organization). You weap for Lavar because he makes you want to weap for him. I agree he deserves to be a apart of this team in the future, but he is not a victim. I have said before I love what Lavar brought in the seasons we were loosing, he was the only exciting thing, but we were loosing no playoff trips not his fault, but it is beyond him carrying this team now we have good coaches, playmakers in other positions, and a team attitude MTK 12-30-2005, 12:05 PM Poor, poor LaVar. How will the team win without him? Oh, that's right, they already have. FirstandTen 12-30-2005, 12:06 PM Poor, poor LaVar. How will the team win without him? Oh, that's right, they already have. :laughing2 Exactly!! Redskins 12-30-2005, 12:31 PM You know....I see two things here that are vital. (1) Arrington is being a distraction at a time that is absolutely unacceptable. No matter how great of a player he is, he simply cannot be the T.O. of this team. His problems must take a backseat for the greater good until the off-season when both sides have the focus to discuss his future responsibly. I think he knows this as a professional, but he is simply overwhelmed from the media who always seems to want to vilify someone to sell airtime. Sadly, he has been their target for at least the last year. I can understand why he is upset, but as it was said about the USA Hockey Team who took out the Russians back in the day, “the name on the front is a hell of a lot more important than the name on the back”. (2) Whether Arrington can understand a scheme and play as part of a team is not the total issue. He's a great athlete, a specimen of strength and endurance, and a dentist’s worst nightmare. I’d love to see him pigeonholed into schemes where he can’t screw up to prove he is worthy of staying a Redskin for life. More though, on the opposite end, I do NOT want to see him on an opposing sideline with an axe to grind. He needs to be coached with kid gloves if necessary, but we do not need him to turn into the next L.T. taking shots at Brunell’s bad knees. Put him in a restrictive scheme and utilize his ferociousness for now. As he becomes more competent, give him more responsibility. The bottom line is the Redskins have a shot to make their own destiny. Few teams have ever had this luxury. All for one and one for all. Fight with all your heart because tomorrow you might not be able to. I couldn’t be more psyched or proud of this team. MTK 12-30-2005, 12:37 PM You know....I see two things here that are vital. (1) Arrington is being a distraction at a time that is absolutely unacceptable. No matter how great of a player he is, he simply cannot be the T.O. of this team. His problems must take a backseat for the greater good until the off-season when both sides have the focus to discuss his future responsibly. I think he knows this as a professional, but he is simply overwhelmed from the media who always seems to want to vilify someone to sell airtime. Sadly, he has been their target for at least the last year. I can understand why he is upset, but as it was said about the USA Hockey Team who took out the Russians back in the day, “the name on the front is a hell of a lot more important than the name on the back”. (2) Whether Arrington can understand a scheme and play as part of a team is not the total issue. He's a great athlete, a specimen of strength and endurance, and a dentist’s worst nightmare. I’d love to see him pigeonholed into schemes where he can’t screw up to prove he is worthy of staying a Redskin for life. More though, on the opposite end, I do NOT want to see him on an opposing sideline with an axe to grind. He needs to be coached with kid gloves if necessary, but we do not need him to turn into the next L.T. taking shots at Brunell’s bad knees. Put him in a restrictive scheme and utilize his ferociousness for now. As he becomes more competent, give him more responsibility. The bottom line is the Redskins have a shot to make their own destiny. Few teams have ever had this luxury. All for one and one for all. Fight with all your heart because tomorrow you might not be able to. I couldn’t be more psyched or proud of this team. Nice first post, welcome to the board! Sheriff Gonna Getcha 12-30-2005, 12:40 PM Poor, poor LaVar. How will the team win without him? Oh, that's right, they already have. My problem is Danny has alienated so many players around the league that he is affecting our reputation among not only league observers, but potential future Redskins. Danny first alienated Brian Mitchell, then Stephen Davis, then Champ Bailey, then Laveranues Coles, and now LaVar Arrington. Exactly how many great Redskins does Danny plan on pissing on? MTK 12-30-2005, 12:57 PM My problem is Danny has alienated so many players around the league that he is affecting our reputation among not only league observers, but potential future Redskins. Danny first alienated Brian Mitchell, then Stephen Davis, then Champ Bailey, then Laveranues Coles, and now LaVar Arrington. Exactly how many great Redskins does Danny plan on pissing on? Granted Snyder isn't totally innocent and he's definitely made his share of mistakes, but at the same time some of those guys you mentioned aren't innocent victims either. Mitchell has since reconciled with the team. Davis' departure was more due to a new system in which he didn't fit in, plus his monster contract was a factor. I don't recall Snyder having a falling out with him though. Champ wanted out no matter what due to the constant coaching turnover, yes Snyder is partly to blame there but I don't think Snyder "pissed" on him personally in any way. The Coles situation definitely could have been handled better by Snyder, but again I'm not going to give Coles a free pass. As for Arrington... again he's not an innocent victim. FRPLG 12-30-2005, 01:17 PM Wow... I am 100% torn on this one guys. I have been an ardent coaching staff supporter but part of me is now conflicted. While I trust Gibbs and company 100% to make proper personel decisions I wonder how this situation got so mismanaged. The problem here seems to me not that Lavar should or shouldn't be playing but that Lavar seems to want to be treated one way but all his actions and reputation have soured enough opinions of him that he can't possibly be treated that way. Let's clear one thing up. There have been rumors since he was drafted that he freelanced too much and couldn't be counted on to stick to assignments. These were rumors from everywhere and not within the Skisn necessarily. I think it is pretty obvious that the defensive coaching staff felt strongly that Lavar wouldn't fit in with his style of freelancing and by sheer bad luck he never got a chance to prove them wrong because of injuries. This whole situation has pretty much convinced me that Lavar does indeed freelance too much. It is hard for us to see because we don't know what assignments are what and for whom but considering this defense has been successful for two years now and there are exactly 0 complaints from other players it is real obvious that Lavar is not fitting in as well as we would hope given his abilities. Given all that I would advocate moving Lavar on since he is getting way more money than his value should indicate. But on the other hand I see a guy who is clearly very talented and clearly very positiviely emotional about being a Redskins and I would have thought the coaches could have cultivated this and found the best way to use him since he really seems like a Gibbs kinda guy. I don't think changing a scheme to fit him in is the right thing to do but I can't honestly believe that with work the coaches couldn't get him into the mental state that they needed for him to honor assigments. It disappoints me that it seems they are far too willing to move on without a guy who should be a star player for you even though you have been successful but I also realize that this is the way the league works now. Take it or leave it. Guys can't just stick around because they are liked by fans. The cap means if he can't produce up to what he is paid he has to go. I just wish he could have been treated better. I also wish he didn't take everything so personally and inflame the situation. Nothing good can come from any of this I don't think. |
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