Pro Bowl Bound - Samuels, Moss

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MTK
12-22-2005, 08:49 AM
Vick is nothing but a name. His stats are pathetic for a "Pro Bowl QB".

12thMan
12-22-2005, 08:51 AM
Vick is nothing but a name. His stats are pathetic for a "Pro Bowl QB".

Dude, you'd better chill....wewhite is gonna getcha for talking about his main man, M. Vick!! :)

MTK
12-22-2005, 09:35 AM
Dude, you'd better chill....wewhite is gonna getcha for talking about his main man, M. Vick!! :)

The truth hurts.

Both Bledsoe and Brunell were much more deserving. It's not even close.

bigmarley4
12-22-2005, 09:46 AM
Check the stats, it's rediculous Brunell didn't get in. Look at his TD/INT ratio:
Drew Bledsoe, Cowboys (3,188 yards, 21 TDs, 14 INTs)
Mark Brunell, Redskins (2,797, 20 TDs, 8 INTs)
Jake Delhomme, Panthers (2,998, 20 TDs, 15 INTs)
Brett Favre, Packers (3,305 yards, 19 TDs, 24 INTs)
Matt Hasselbeck, Seahawks (3,215, 22 TDs, 9 INTs)
Eli Manning, Giants (3,314, 22 TDs, 16 INTs)
Michael Vick, Falcons (2,136 yards, 13 TDs, 12 INTs; 534 rushing yards, 6 TDs)



Also, Portis should definitely be in there instead of Dunn. 6 more TD's and only 30 less yards:
Shaun Alexander, Seahawks (1,668 rushing yards, 24 TDs)
Tiki Barber, Giants (1,577 rushing yards, 8 TDs; 421 receiving yards, 2 TDs)Warrick Dunn, Falcons (1,328 rushing yards, 2 TDs; 205 receiving yards, 1 TD)Steven Jackson, Rams (1,018 rushing yards, 7 TDs; 299 receiving yards, 2 TDs)
Thomas Jones, Bears (1,168 rushing yards, 8 TDs)
Clinton Portis, Redskins (1,296 rushing yards, 8 TDs)
Carnell ''Cadillac'' Williams, Buccaneers (947 yards, 5 TDs)

hail_2_da_skins
12-22-2005, 09:54 AM
F@#% the Pro Bowl. No one watches it anyway. The Skins get no respect. They will just have to earn it by going to the playoffs and winning playoff games. The Pro Bowl selections will follow next year.

Southpaw
12-22-2005, 10:21 AM
Vick is nothing but a name. His stats are pathetic for a "Pro Bowl QB".

If the Pro Bowl is supposed to be based purely on statistics, then you can make an argument that he is not as good as some of the other quarterbacks in the NFC. But I thought the only stat that matters in football is wins, which is what Vick does, win games. He is one of the few players in the league that can change a game, almost completely by himself.

Vick's record as a starter is 33-21-1 since 2001. Atlanta's record without him is 9-18. So it would seem he's not quite as overrated as some people think.

MTK
12-22-2005, 10:27 AM
If the Pro Bowl is supposed to be based purely on statistics, then you can make an argument that he is not as good as some of the other quarterbacks in the NFC. But I thought the only stat that matters in football is wins, which is what Vick does, win games. He is one of the few players in the league that can change a game, almost completely by himself.

Vick's record as a starter is 33-21-1 since 2001. Atlanta's record without him is 9-18. So it would seem he's not quite as overrated as some people think.

Bledsoe and Brunell both have 8 wins this year just like Vick.

Vick = overrated name.

dmek25
12-22-2005, 10:37 AM
matty your right on.vick might be the most over rated name in sports,not just football

TheMalcolmConnection
12-22-2005, 10:41 AM
Ugh. Why are people so willing to slurp Vick and no other worthy names? Like I've never seen people who loyal to one player. Again, I won't deny that he's exciting to watch but that's about it. Yes, his presence in the game DOES make his teammates better, but what is up with everyone defending him for the Pro Bowl this year? People SERIOUSLY have man crushes on Ramsey and some are STILL calling for him to play, but I've never seen loyalty the likes of people with Vick.

Southpaw
12-22-2005, 10:43 AM
Bledsoe and Brunell both have 8 wins this year just like Vick.

Vick = overrated name.

If Vick had Bledsoe's receivers or Washington's defense, he'd have more than eight wins.


Yes, his presence in the game DOES make his teammates better, but what is up with everyone defending him for the Pro Bowl this year?

I'm not actually defending him for the Pro Bowl, I'm just giving reasons why I can understand he was picked. You guys seem to forget that it's not just fans that pick the Pro Bowl, which is very apparent from the fact that Cooley didn't make it, in spite of being far and away the fan favorite. So obviously his peers and the coaches think he's worthy too.

Coaches gameplan for Vick and are always attempting to keep him contained. I highly doubt any coach in the league is saying to himself before a Dallas game, "How are we going to stop Bledsoe?".

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