Roy Williams = dirty tackler

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BrudLee
12-20-2005, 10:50 AM
Whatever, did you want to win by 42 points?
Would you have wanted to?

MTK
12-20-2005, 10:56 AM
Exactly right,

as the rule is currently written, it was not a penalty. He didn't even bend him backwards, he bent him sideways.

Whatever, did you want to win by 42 points?

Yes it was called correctly, I'm just debating as to whether the rule needs to be revised.

I'm concerned about seeing our franchise back being injured by a shady tackle, that's all.

Whatever happened to going for the legs or wrapping up a guy, Williams is constantly dragging people down by the collar.

dmek25
12-20-2005, 11:05 AM
i saw this called once this season.what happened sunday was called correctly because by rule,portis was not pulled down by his PADS.i for one,think this rule is ridiculous and just want football to be football.by the way,we need to move on to the BIGGEST GAME of the year,which happens saturday in our own back yard.if we win saturday,i will be making a trip down 95 to see the skins wrap up the division in philly(our home away from home)

D'BOYZ
12-20-2005, 11:06 AM
I saw a segment with Mike Pereira (NFL's head of officiating), and he explained the rule.

Two things have to happen for a flag to be thrown.
* the defender gets his hand inside of the pads
* the defender immediately yanks the offensive player down

That tackle on Portis literally happened right in front of me and I was screaming and yelling for a flag to be thrown, but the way the rule reads, it was the correct call, I'm affraid.

Exactly this is what I was going to post according to the rule those both things need to happen and neither happend Williams grab the Jersey and didn't immediately yank Portis he ran a few yards before being tackle.

And NO it hasn't been called all season long after players new what needed to happen they just changed they why they do the tackle by doing it like Roy Williams did, and yes this type of Tackle has existed for as long as I can remmember.

It's just that now we all put more attention to it because of the rule

saden1
12-20-2005, 11:06 AM
I would have like to have seen Gibbs tell Sean Taylor to line up on offense and lay the smack-down on Williams.

FRPLG
12-20-2005, 11:07 AM
Maybe Sean Taylor can teach Roy Williams how to actually tackle someone in a non-bush league style. You see he likes to hit people at full speed not wait until they get by him so he can pull them down like a little girl. Its a punk-ass tackle technique and thats why the league banned it. Whether the play in question follows the strict interpretation or not it violated the spirit of the rule. I for one would rather see them them not ban certain types of tackles but rather let the players police it. As in Sean Taylor would have gone in on the next offensive play and ended Roy Williams game by knocking his bitch ass out.

That'll be the only venom I spew towards the Cowboys as I don't like trash talking too much. But I dislike Roy Williams and his overrated ass even more. Karma is a bitch.

SouperMeister
12-20-2005, 11:10 AM
Exactly right,

as the rule is currently written, it was not a penalty. He didn't even bend him backwards, he bent him sideways.

Whatever, did you want to win by 42 points?
Roy Williams should try tackling the old fashioned way - by hitting and wrapping. Whether he actually grabbed the back of the shoulder pads is a moot point. The guy ALWAYS seems to be reaching for the back of the jersey collar, and had two such tackles against Tiki Barber last month at the Meadowlands. On the first, he pulled up a little, because he sensed a flag would have come had he dragged Tiki down immediately. It had always been within the rules to tackle that way, so I don't consider Williams a dirty player. That said, I see him as unsound fundamentally if he's constantly out of position to make a clean hit, and has to resort to grabbing the collar.

FRPLG
12-20-2005, 11:11 AM
I would have like to have seen Gibbs tell Sean Taylor to line up on offense and lay the smack-down on Williams.
Great minds think alike.

Paintrain
12-20-2005, 11:12 AM
I expect a revised rule next year that states that grabbing any part of the jersey or inside the pads and yanking a player down will result in a penalty. As for the way the rule is written, it was the right call.

scowan
12-20-2005, 11:14 AM
Changing the subject a little bit, did Ladell Betts' hit on was is Newman? on that sweep where he ran over him get put on Jacked Up! That hit by Betts was awesome!! Forget the Horse Collar, Newman was Stampeeded!!!!

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