That Guy
12-20-2005, 02:42 PM
i was afraid after the last two weeks of dreadful offense that we'd gone back to the failed 2004 scheme... i was hoping against hope it was a rope-a-dope for tuna but doubted it. Turns out it was, he used a flea flicker, a reverse, and deep passes to moss in coverage. He didn't need to do much after that.
FRPLG
12-20-2005, 02:52 PM
i was afraid after the last two weeks of dreadful offense that we'd gone back to the failed 2004 scheme... i was hoping against hope it was a rope-a-dope for tuna but doubted it. Turns out it was, he used a flea flicker, a reverse, and deep passes to moss in coverage. He didn't need to do much after that.
Other than a couple couple plays it was the exact same scheme they have run since the SD game. It is amazing how good a scheme is when players actually execute it well and how bad the scheme must be when they don't. Me thinks it is beoming more apparent that many of our issues resided with execution rather than scheme as many had thought (including I).
irish
12-20-2005, 02:52 PM
My opinion has not changed, I had a good opinion of Gibbs et al and I still do. However I still have questions/concerns about what's going to happen when gibb's is gone.
skinsguy
12-20-2005, 04:08 PM
Other than a couple couple plays it was the exact same scheme they have run since the SD game. It is amazing how good a scheme is when players actually execute it well and how bad the scheme must be when they don't. Me thinks it is beoming more apparent that many of our issues resided with execution rather than scheme as many had thought (including I).
That's it right there. When the execution is there, it opens the playcalling up even more. However, what Gibbs called Sunday is EXACTLY what this offense is all about.
We might make the playoffs, we might not. Either way, I am very excited with the direction this team is taking.
djnemo65
12-20-2005, 04:56 PM
I don't know that the playcalling was all that different from what it usually is, everything just fell into place perfectly today.
Gibbs and the rest of the staff had the team prepared today. That's what it's all about, coming ready to play. And they were ready. And when I say team I mean all 53 players. They didn't get much love in the box score but it was great to see guys like Harris and Holdman come back from injuries and fan abuse (for lack of a better term) and really step it up Sunday.
I think what is really changing is the sequence of playcalling, if not the actual plays themselves. Before we were way to predictable, running on first and second and giving ourselves only one chance to pass for a first on third down. Now we are mixing it up, and even peppering a little trickeration in there for good measure. I think Gibbs is learning that its impossible to dominate this NFL on the ground the way it was in the 80's - that you need to do things like pass on first down. They are giving our offense opportunities to make big plays without deviating from their conservative principles, and I think its working.
That Guy
12-20-2005, 08:31 PM
Other than a couple couple plays it was the exact same scheme they have run since the SD game. It is amazing how good a scheme is when players actually execute it well and how bad the scheme must be when they don't. Me thinks it is beoming more apparent that many of our issues resided with execution rather than scheme as many had thought (including I).
other than a couple plays we werent calling so the defense could keep 8-9 in the box every play... the playcalling was way different than the last few weeks cause we purposefully went deep even with good coverage and tried trick plays we haven't been using. the scheme was different and it helped.
skinsttw
12-20-2005, 09:32 PM
Gibbs and his staff are a class act. The players respect the coaches and now they are starting to play together as a team. We showed the NFL what the skins can do if they
play their best ball. This is the perfect time to get hot. Would not be surprised if we win out and make the playoffs. Super Bowl would be a stretch this year, but this year
has been hard to predict.
skinsguy
12-21-2005, 09:21 AM
I think what is really changing is the sequence of playcalling, if not the actual plays themselves. Before we were way to predictable, running on first and second and giving ourselves only one chance to pass for a first on third down. Now we are mixing it up, and even peppering a little trickeration in there for good measure. I think Gibbs is learning that its impossible to dominate this NFL on the ground the way it was in the 80's - that you need to do things like pass on first down. They are giving our offense opportunities to make big plays without deviating from their conservative principles, and I think its working.
We still ran the ball on first down, and that is going to be our strength if we are to make the playoffs or at least win out this season. When we're running the ball effectively on first and second down, that opens the passing up that much more, so then mixing it up later and throwing a couple passes on first and second down is easier to do than to just do it for the sake of not being able to run the ball effectively on those downs. I believe it comes down to execution. When players execute the plays well, the coach finds it easier to mix up his playcalling - that is what happened against the Cowboys. If our players come out and once again execute well, it is very tough to defend against Joe Gibbs' playcalling. The Dallas game was a prime example. Of course, it also helps when the defense is being as dominate as what they were. It's going to be tougher against the Giants this week though. They have a great running game, and we have to slow it down. If we can get on top early like we did against Dallas, then it is going to force the Giants to throw more, and I think that puts us at an advantage even though our secondary is still beat up.
56FAN
12-21-2005, 12:55 PM
never and i mean never a question.if he can't no one can.i know he can and in fact is.
rock on JOe gibbs