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lifetimeskin 12-12-2005, 10:15 PM I have seen many questions about the draft, and I decided to do a lil' analysis of the last 10 years. From looking at our draft history here, I noticed that for the last ten years we have;
-Drafted 62 out of an alloted 70 choices or 88.6%
-From 1996-2000 we drafted 36 players out of an alloted 35 choices or 102%
* 11 top draft choices (TDC-rounds 1-3) OUT of a possible 15 choices 73%
* 3 TDC players are still with the squad or 27% (3/11)
* 1 player outside TDC choices on the squad 4% (1/25)
* SMART DRAFT QUOTIENT- 26% (80% of TDC players +20% of other players)
-From 2001-2005 we drafted 26 players out of an alloted 36 choices or 74%
* 11 top draft choices OUT of a possible 15 choices 73%
* 7 TDC players are still on squad 63% (7/11)
* 1 player outside TDC choices on the squad 6.6% (1/15)
* SMART DRAFT QUOTIENT- 52% (80% of TDC players +20% of other players)
-JOE GIBBS II we drafted 10 out of an allocated 14 choices or 71%
* 4 TDC out of a possible 6 choices or 66%
* 4 TDC players are still on squad or 100%
* 3 players outside TDC choices are on squad 50% or (3/6)
* SMART DRAFT QUOTIENT- 90% (80% of TDC players +20% of other players).
There are multiple variables here that I am not taking into account such as losses via free agency, such as smoot/champ. Secondly, as it is obvious, players drafted in 1996 would have 10 years of experience, there aren't many in the NFL. Having said that, 3 sources of concern; 1) In the last 5 years, we are trading away too many choices, we are only drafting 66+% of what we are capable on TDC players, 2) Of what we are drafting in the TDC we are only able to put on the squad 63%, 3) Our draft capability in the lower rounds is abysmal.
My 2 cents worth....
la73hof 12-12-2005, 10:23 PM I have seen many questions about the draft, and I decided to do a lil' analysis of the last 10 years. From looking at our draft history here, I noticed that for the last ten years we have;
-Drafted 62 out of an alloted 70 choices or 88.6%
-From 1996-2000 we drafted 36 players out of an alloted 35 choices or 102%
* 11 top draft choices (TDC-rounds 1-3) OUT of a possible 15 choices 73%
* 3 TDC players are still with the squad or 27% (3/11)
* 1 player outside TDC choices on the squad 4% (1/25)
* SMART DRAFT QUOTIENT- 26% (80% of TDC players +20% of other players)
-From 2001-2005 we drafted 26 players out of an alloted 36 choices or 74%
* 11 top draft choices OUT of a possible 15 choices 73%
* 7 TDC players are still on squad 63% (7/11)
* 1 player outside TDC choices on the squad 6.6% (1/15)
* SMART DRAFT QUOTIENT- 52% (80% of TDC players +20% of other players)
-JOE GIBBS II we drafted 10 out of an allocated 14 choices or 71%
* 4 TDC out of a possible 6 choices or 66%
* 4 TDC players are still on squad or 100%
* 3 players outside TDC choices are on squad 50% or (3/6)
* SMART DRAFT QUOTIENT- 90% (80% of TDC players +20% of other players).
There are multiple variables here that I am not taking into account such as losses via free agency, such as smoot/champ. Secondly, as it is obvious, players drafted in 1996 would have 10 years of experience, there aren't many in the NFL. Having said that, 3 sources of concern; 1) In the last 5 years, we are trading away too many choices, we are only drafting 66+% of what we are capable on TDC players, 2) Of what we are drafting in the TDC we are only able to put on the squad 63%, 3) Our draft capability in the lower rounds is abysmal.
My 2 cents worth....
Ya'll need to keep your draft picks for starters and stop your owner from putting your team in cap hell every 5 years
I should know after wathing Jerry Jones drive this teams into the ground with poor drafts, trading 2 number 1's for Galloway and mismanage the cap by overpaying for aging vets and poor FA decisions
Until snyder follows the lead of the new Jerry Jones, my heart goes out to you guys--mediocrity will reign
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 12-13-2005, 12:03 AM Ya'll need to keep your draft picks for starters and stop your owner from putting your team in cap hell every 5 years
I should know after wathing Jerry Jones drive this teams into the ground with poor drafts, trading 2 number 1's for Galloway and mismanage the cap by overpaying for aging vets and poor FA decisions
Until snyder follows the lead of the new Jerry Jones, my heart goes out to you guys--mediocrity will reign
I think Snyder has gotten a bad rap for his 2000 free agency spending spree. Aside from that year, he hasn't been going overboard during free agency. In 2001, we went after no one. In 2002, we didn't go after a bunch of guys. The 2003 free agency plans were directed by Spurrier. Our 2004 free agent spending spree was directed by Gibbs. This year, we hardly picked up anyone.
offiss 12-13-2005, 02:18 AM I think Snyder has gotten a bad rap for his 2000 free agency spending spree. Aside from that year, he hasn't been going overboard during free agency. In 2001, we went after no one. In 2002, we didn't go after a bunch of guys. The 2003 free agency plans were directed by Spurrier. Our 2004 free agent spending spree was directed by Gibbs. This year, we hardly picked up anyone.
Agreed, the problem is we are not maximizing the draft, other than 2 top 10 picks in Taylor and Rogers, we really have 1 player that I can see, and that's Cooley, in 2 drafts that is it, and I wouldn't expect anything out of this upcoming draft considering we really don't have much of a draft left.
NM Redskin 12-13-2005, 02:33 AM What about Rock, he was a damn good find....Gibbs and company has done a pretty good job.
offiss 12-13-2005, 02:44 AM What about Rock, he was a damn good find....Gibbs and company has done a pretty good job.
Rock was picked under SS. and he is still a 3rd string back.
JoeRedskin 12-13-2005, 04:18 AM I have seen many questions about the draft, and I decided to do a lil' analysis of the last 10 years. From looking at our draft history here, I noticed that for the last ten years we have;
-Drafted 62 out of an alloted 70 choices or 88.6%
-From 1996-2000 we drafted 36 players out of an alloted 35 choices or 102%
* 11 top draft choices (TDC-rounds 1-3) OUT of a possible 15 choices 73%
* 3 TDC players are still with the squad or 27% (3/11)
* 1 player outside TDC choices on the squad 4% (1/25)
* SMART DRAFT QUOTIENT- 26% (80% of TDC players +20% of other players)
-From 2001-2005 we drafted 26 players out of an alloted 36 choices or 74%
* 11 top draft choices OUT of a possible 15 choices 73%
* 7 TDC players are still on squad 63% (7/11)
* 1 player outside TDC choices on the squad 6.6% (1/15)
* SMART DRAFT QUOTIENT- 52% (80% of TDC players +20% of other players)
-JOE GIBBS II we drafted 10 out of an allocated 14 choices or 71%
* 4 TDC out of a possible 6 choices or 66%
* 4 TDC players are still on squad or 100%
* 3 players outside TDC choices are on squad 50% or (3/6)
* SMART DRAFT QUOTIENT- 90% (80% of TDC players +20% of other players).
There are multiple variables here that I am not taking into account such as losses via free agency, such as smoot/champ. Secondly, as it is obvious, players drafted in 1996 would have 10 years of experience, there aren't many in the NFL. Having said that, 3 sources of concern; 1) In the last 5 years, we are trading away too many choices, we are only drafting 66+% of what we are capable on TDC players, 2) Of what we are drafting in the TDC we are only able to put on the squad 63%, 3) Our draft capability in the lower rounds is abysmal.
My 2 cents worth....
An interesting and informative analysis. Clearly, we haven't hit on all draft choices. But, before claiming that our lower round drafting is abysmal, how does the Skins draft record compare to other teams. Perhaps it is higher than all but a few teams. Maybe not. Just don't know. The draft is a crap shoot. Also, to be truly comparitive of DRAFTING ability, you have to take into account whether the players are still in the league (Smoot).
NM Redskin 12-13-2005, 04:39 AM Rock was picked under SS. and he is still a 3rd string back.
Uhh ..... most 7th rounder dont even make the team. Hes been here 3 years. How can you even judge Gibbs picks just 2 years after he took over. Also it not easy even to get good players at the top of the draft. Plus Gibbs brings in rookies the right way.... slowly and doesn't expect them to be a quick fix....cause he remembers Desmond Howard lol.
offiss 12-13-2005, 05:03 AM Uhh ..... most 7th rounder dont even make the team. Hes been here 3 years. How can you even judge Gibbs picks just 2 years after he took over. Also it not easy even to get good players at the top of the draft. Plus Gibbs brings in rookies the right way.... slowly and doesn't expect them to be a quick fix....cause he remembers Desmond Howard lol.
Well most of them aren't on our roster, or sitting the bench or practice squad somewhere's else.
I remember Desmond to, that's another reason I worry about Gibbs ability to judge talent. lol
irish 12-13-2005, 09:28 AM Your anaylsis proves what some on this site dont seem to understand, the draft is an inexact science. A team needs to have as many draft picks as possible in order to minimize the 'risk' of this unproven talent and maximize the chance of getting a future star. Unfortunately (I've said this a million time before on this site) the skins have a coach and front office that likes to give away their draft picks so the organization never realizes the full potential of the draft and is constantly stuck plugging holes with high priced free agents. This is not how successful teams are run.
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