Looks like Skins are $10 mil over cap next year, who goes?

Hall and Harris are no-brainers. Bowen might be as well.

Not to keep responding on this thread :)

but I really think we should keep Harris. I think he is an excellent nickel corner, who has enough starting experience to be a spot starter should Rogers get hurt next year. I just dont know that you can get that much more of an experienced, decent corner for $2.4m. But I definitely agree that something is wrong with Hall and we need to replace him...he just dont look right.

Not to keep responding on this thread :)

but I really think we should keep Harris. I think he is an excellent nickel corner, who has enough starting experience to be a spot starter should Rogers get hurt next year. I just dont know that you can get that much more of an experienced, decent corner for $2.4m. But I definitely agree that something is wrong with Hall and we need to replace him...he just dont look right.

Hey - at least you aren't quoting yourself yet!

I think he's a decent nickel corner, but I disagree that he can step into fill for Rogers. His tackling is abysmal and he just doesn't seem to be that good (based on his play this season). I think we can upgrade (somewhat - not substantially) for the amount we are paying Harris.

I agree about Hall - he just hasn't recovered. We need to drop at least ONE kickoff in the endzone this season!

Bowen I just haven't seen much this year. I know he was hurt for a bit, but it seems like we could survive without him. Unless, of course, ST ends up in jail. :(

Not to keep responding on this thread :)

but I really think we should keep Harris. I think he is an excellent nickel corner, who has enough starting experience to be a spot starter should Rogers get hurt next year. I just dont know that you can get that much more of an experienced, decent corner for $2.4m. But I definitely agree that something is wrong with Hall and we need to replace him...he just dont look right.


I have to agree, as much as Harris has been burnt this year as our No. 2 corner, he still is above average nickle back and can match up well with a No. 3 wideout. That being said, you would hope that in case of injury your No. 3 corner could move up to No. 2 without much drop off, but that clearly is not the case with Harris.

I'm not a fan of Harris being cut because I do think he's a quality nicklel, but his '06 base salary is a hefty $2.75M which has to make one think he could be on the block simply because of that fairly large cap #.

I'm not a fan of Harris being cut because I do think he's a quality nicklel, but his '06 base salary is a hefty $2.75M which has to make one think he could be on the block simply because of that fairly large cap #.

Agreed. That's way too much for Harris.

Agreed. That's way too much for Harris.

Id like to see how much other veteran nickel corners are making before I say its too much...it actually seems pretty reasonable to me. Also, I would want to know who we plan on replacing him with before we cut him without a backup plan. If Ade Jimoh is playing nickelback for us next year I have a friend who is going to have a heart attack...so just let me know so I can take out that life insurance policy :)

I think 112 is high. Looks like it is actually under 110 but we won't know until the end of the year. If the cap ends up at 92 then we need to "trim" 18.
I am thinking they possibly restructure Taylor because his number is a relatively high 4.6 and his subsequent numbers fall much lower. They can restructure that to save a couple mil in '06. Jansen will get extended and his number reduced. Ramsey will be gone. Washignton will get restructure same as Taylor. Somethign will happen with Wynn. I'd guess he is gone. Noble is gone. Daniels is relatively cheap but for what production? He might be gone. Bowen is gone unless he takes a deep pay cut. Soemthing has to be done about Springs. Without doing the real math all of those moves saves about 23 or 24 mil counting release fees and all.

"Early word is that the official cap number for 2006 will land somewhere between $92 million and $95 million per team, up from $85 million this year and higher than the previously anticipated range of $89 million to $90 million.




Even at $95 million, several teams need to trim more than $20 million in 2006 payroll. The Jets and Raiders each exceed $120 million, and the Broncos have more than $118 million committed to next season.



The Chiefs are at $114 million, and the Redskins are at $112 million."

The above quote is from profootballtalk.com. So, knowing this who goes and who stays? I think Hall goes, Phillip Daniels goes, Taylor Jacobs but who else? Im not a capologist, but there are those on here who are, so who do you guys think is going, restructuring, etc.




I would like to hear from all the people that said we are not in any cap trouble for the next couple of years. what is your fix for this situation?

Samuels and Lavar are our two biggest hits. I don't see Lavar restructuring. Samuels maybe, but he has another 6 years on his contract and I haven't heard his name mentioned.

Samuel just signed a longterm deal, he is not going to restructure. LaVar may restructure his roster bonus to signing bonus which could create some room. Trading him isn't an option if they are that much over the cap now, but remember there is a possibility there isn't going to be a cap next year if the CBA isnt signed.

Not to keep responding on this thread :)

but I really think we should keep Harris. I think he is an excellent nickel corner, who has enough starting experience to be a spot starter should Rogers get hurt next year. I just dont know that you can get that much more of an experienced, decent corner for $2.4m. But I definitely agree that something is wrong with Hall and we need to replace him...he just dont look right.

Hall had a nagging leg injury. which I believe is getting better. No way should we cut him. dont you remember all the damn troubles we have had with crappy kickers over the last 10 years. His leg is getting stronger, and appears to be healing. On the 45 yarder he missed last week, It was well long enough. It would have been long enought from over 50+. and his kick offs were getting to the goal line again. When Hall is healthy he is automatic from the 45-47 and in. Good teams have good reliable kickers. We need a HEALTHY John Hall, which it looks like he is getting healthy.