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paulskinsfan 12-07-2005, 03:07 PM I totally agree with you firstdown. We're just blind optimists.
The only problem I have with the total optimists is that my life experience is that the squeaky wheel gets the oil. By that I mean, if Redskin fans would raise hell about Snyder's methods, maybe just maybe he would eventually have to listen. Snyder cares about public opinion, and he cares about the fans. If no one ever questions or bitches about moves made by this team, then that pretty much turns us all into Kool-Aid drinking fans who never question our team's moves. Id rather stop being a fan than to follow blindly, never questioning authority. Its easy to come on here and say "never question Joe Gibbs", but do those of you who are total optimists ever come to this site and say "yep, in hindsight, Gibbs was totally wrong" . If you are going to complain about the bitching and moaning on this board, don't you have to fess up when the bitching and moaning is legit?
dmek25 12-07-2005, 03:15 PM what more can a skins fan want out of owner?so far,in his brief time as redskins owner,mr snyder has pretty much tried everything(other than the draft)to make the redskins a winner.there isnt a redskin fan out here that can say he isnt willing to spend what it takes.we went thru that,now we are going old school by trying to keep a certain nucleus of "core players" and filling in where needed.i think his judgement in the past may have been alittle off,but i think what he wants in the end for the skins is what we all want,another super bowl trophy
firstdown 12-07-2005, 03:19 PM The only problem I have with the total optimists is that my life experience is that the squeaky wheel gets the oil. By that I mean, if Redskin fans would raise hell about Snyder's methods, maybe just maybe he would eventually have to listen. Snyder cares about public opinion, and he cares about the fans. If no one ever questions or bitches about moves made by this team, then that pretty much turns us all into Kool-Aid drinking fans who never question our team's moves. Id rather stop being a fan than to follow blindly, never questioning authority. Its easy to come on here and say "never question Joe Gibbs", but do those of you who are total optimists ever come to this site and say "yep, in hindsight, Gibbs was totally wrong" . If you are going to complain about the bitching and moaning on this board, don't you have to fess up when the bitching and moaning is legit?What I ment was the person who was always looking at the glass half empty no matter what.
Southpaw 12-07-2005, 04:29 PM what more can a skins fan want out of owner?so far,in his brief time as redskins owner,mr snyder has pretty much tried everything(other than the draft)to make the redskins a winner.
Up until last year, Snyder did nothing but attempt to buy championships, and in that time, he hasn't even been able to buy a winning record. If he continues to keep his mouth shut, and let the coaches do their job, I'll be a little more accepting of him.
dmek25 12-07-2005, 05:11 PM southpaw would you will be more accepting of snyder if he spent nothing,sitting quietly along the sidelines,making his millions,and watch out team turn into the arizona cardinals?he tried a veteran coach(schottenheimer) a college coach(spurrier) old school(gibbs)there isnt a redskin fan out there that wasnt happy with all the big name,high priced talent he brought in to help the skins try to win.say whay you want,that formula was mildly sucessful(playoffs 1999)i do think we are going the right way this time
VTSkins897 12-07-2005, 05:46 PM this is where we come to sulk, bitch, and moan. if we ever get into the playoffs on a consistent basis the site's traffic will be nonexistent!
skinsguy 12-07-2005, 05:51 PM Up until last year, Snyder did nothing but attempt to buy championships, and in that time, he hasn't even been able to buy a winning record. If he continues to keep his mouth shut, and let the coaches do their job, I'll be a little more accepting of him.
But what you don't understand is that Snyder actually thought he was helping the team by doing so. And really, Snyder was basically acting upon the intentions of what we hear quite often around here everytime the Redskins lose or don't play up to what we think they should be playing to - that is to get rid of the coach and put one in if we're not up to championship level or let's go out and sign big names. Snyder had to go through some major AND costly growing pains to finally see that that approach was not the best for this franchise. I believe he redeemed himself a bit on hiring Joe Gibbs back as head coach. Because of this, I believe Snyder has so much respect for Joe, that he is staying back and letting Gibbs run the team. That is probably the best thing Snyder has done since becoming owner. I realize that he's still heavily involved in the player decision making - I'm sure Jack Kent Cooke probably wanted some sense of involvement as well.
I believe if and when Joe turns this team around and gets them back into being contenders, Snyder will pull back quite a bit - at least as long as Gibbs is there or whoever takes over for Gibbs maintains this steady climb back into contention.
railcon56 12-07-2005, 05:55 PM Up until last year, Snyder did nothing but attempt to buy championships, and in that time, he hasn't even been able to buy a winning record. If he continues to keep his mouth shut, and let the coaches do their job, I'll be a little more accepting of him.
I dont understand why people hate him so much...would you rather have the eagles owner who lets every important free agent get away...or be way under the cap...hey he made mistakse but so he wanted a championship.... he does put his money where his mouth is...HE WANTS TO WIN!!!! but what about the good things like paying Williams and most of the coaches more money than they would make as head coaches...it must be great to be a coach and know if i want a player Mr Snyder will do his best to keep that player.... Plus i kinda understand him... why buy round steak if you can buy porterhouse or filet mignon ..he saw it as getting the best..it's been a long time since he has interfered.... I personally love our owner... look who else would buy a whole mall just so the fans could park?
firstdown 12-07-2005, 05:55 PM Up until last year, Snyder did nothing but attempt to buy championships, and in that time, he hasn't even been able to buy a winning record. If he continues to keep his mouth shut, and let the coaches do their job, I'll be a little more accepting of him.What has he said in the past 1 1/2 years. The only thing I remember Snyder doing is bringing in Gibbs, donated some money, kept ticket prices the same, and said he would have more porta poties in the parking lots which he did. That alone should count for a little love.
railcon56 12-07-2005, 05:57 PM what more can a skins fan want out of owner?so far,in his brief time as redskins owner,mr snyder has pretty much tried everything(other than the draft)to make the redskins a winner.there isnt a redskin fan out here that can say he isnt willing to spend what it takes.we went thru that,now we are going old school by trying to keep a certain nucleus of "core players" and filling in where needed.i think his judgement in the past may have been alittle off,but i think what he wants in the end for the skins is what we all want,another super bowl trophy
We couldn't ask for more as far as I am concerned he is the best owner in football!!!
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