Santana Moss Personal Foul

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Luxorreb
12-05-2005, 06:32 AM
What was the call here?
Didn't see him head butt, kick the pylon or take his helmet off!
But I didn't see any real reason he was compaining about non calls.
Guess he got flagged for mouthing off?

dmek25
12-05-2005, 07:08 AM
it was definitly for complaining.it was 15 for unsportsmanlike conduct.i thought for sure they were going to throw him out.

Luxorreb
12-05-2005, 07:17 AM
Can't throw him out for bitching. You can call a 15 yarder on him though. I think we should see more of this league wide if you're calling it on Moss. Lotsa guys bitch, but there's also a league tendency to throw the late flag if a WR is bitching. Don't fault Moss for this penalty as he was doing what most competitive players do. Try to make an influence on the game.

dmek25
12-05-2005, 08:24 AM
it might have had to do with the select words he was using.i would think certain words are off limits

FRPLG
12-05-2005, 09:24 AM
it might have had to do with the select words he was using.i would think certain words are off limits
Well that's crap. I think it is ridiculous that certain words would be not allowed. I also think it is ridiculous that the flag was called in the first place. He wasn't being overly demonstrative and embarrassing the ref so keep the flag in your pocket dumbass and do your job. Moss hasn't made a point to be confrontational with refs before so something leads me to believe that he felt there were calls not being made. Refs need to know when they are missing calls. We of all fans should know that by now.

Daseal
12-05-2005, 10:04 AM
He was pointing at the ref and yelling. He deserved the penelty.

FRPLG
12-05-2005, 10:10 AM
He was pointing at the ref and yelling. He deserved the penelty.
For what? Doing what a vast amount of other players do? I am not saying it shouldn't be a penalty in theory. I am saying that it shouldn't be a penalty all of a sudden when it is basically allowed on a weekly basis by dozens of other players. Somehow the refs always find ways to screw us! Is it just me?

onlydarksets
12-05-2005, 10:13 AM
Well that's crap. I think it is ridiculous that certain words would be not allowed.

I think he means certain swear words will get you a flag. There's nothing wrong with that - it's perfectly reasonable. You can complain, but you have to be (somewhat) respectful.

hurrykaine
12-05-2005, 10:19 AM
Moss was being a bone-head during that stretch of the game. Just spillover frustration from not getting to catch too many balls or make too many plays over the last 3 games. He deserved the flag, plain and simple. You can argue or complain to the refs, but berating them?

Daseal
12-05-2005, 10:20 AM
To me, it didn't look like what most receivers do. Most receivers are like come on man, he was pushing me! Santana MOss was pointing and looking like he was pretty vicious. While none of us knows, thats just what it looked like to me.

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